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I just installed the Hybrid kit for gtx 1080 FTW and set the bios switch to slave. Using MSI Afterburner, I pushed the core clock offset to +90 MHz, voltage to 130%, memory to 200 MHz. I used Uniengine Heaven Benchmark to stress the gpu. I could only set the core clock offset to +90 MHz max before it would crash black out every now and then. Even then, it only maintained a core clock of 2101 for a couple of minute before randomly dipping back down to 1721. Then, It would climb back up only to 2088. Over time, it would eventually go down a bit more. The temps only got to 50c max. ARte these readings ok? I figured i lost in the silicon lottery but I want to make sure the random drops to 1721 are normal or because I installed the hybrid kit incorrectly. I attached a few images showing the different times when it drops. In the third image, the yellow marker shows when it started clocking at 2088 MHz. https://www.mediafire.com/?jt45xzhncwf56s3 This is the latest log history of the card. Check the latest log. It started at 2101 then dropped to 2088 and stayed there indefinitely. No drops to base clock. Is this ok for an OC? I figured the silicon lottery didn't favor me.
post edited by XxTaikenxX - 2016/11/15 00:36:47
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/14 20:38:09
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Temp looks good. Low gpu usage can cause your core clock to drop to base clock speeds. Use k-boost if you want your card to stay in its boost clock when under low gpu usage.
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/14 21:06:45
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Temp looks good. Low gpu usage can cause your core clock to drop to base clock speeds. Use k-boost if you want your card to stay in its boost clock when under low gpu usage.
Bu those drops were happening during the Heaven Benchmark. Doesn't that mean they were happening during high gpu usage?
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/14 21:10:08
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Picture #2 shows the drop to 1721 when the gpu is at 1% usage. Picture #3 shows the card at 2088 when at 0% usage which is obviously a incorrect reading.
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/14 21:28:15
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Ah ok. I wish there was a way that I could upload the monitoring history completely than just an image. I will upload an updated third image. That image shows a yellow marker showing from when it started clocking at 2088.
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/14 21:41:17
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I could try redoing the Heaven Benchmark stress test with a different software if need be that will let me upload the monitoring history.
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/14 21:45:16
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You can log chart history to file by right clicking the monitoring graph and selecting "log history to file".
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/14 21:56:19
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You can log chart history to file by right clicking the monitoring graph and selecting "log history to file".
I did do that. The log file is called HardwareMonitering.hml but I dont think I am allowed to upload it here.
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/14 22:03:40
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You can log chart history to file by right clicking the monitoring graph and selecting "log history to file".
I did do that. The log file is called HardwareMonitering.hml but I dont think I am allowed to upload it here.
Upload it to mediafire.com then post a link to it.
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/14 22:22:41
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Temp looks good. Low gpu usage can cause your core clock to drop to base clock speeds. Use k-boost if you want your card to stay in its boost clock when under low gpu usage.
Bu those drops were happening during the Heaven Benchmark. Doesn't that mean they were happening during high gpu usage?
no the drops happen in heaven bench when the scene transitions. if you want to stop that from happening you have to add the .exe to the nvidia control panel and then under that program (this being the benchmark) you click under power management. select prefer maximum performance
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/14 22:42:32
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You can log chart history to file by right clicking the monitoring graph and selecting "log history to file".
I did do that. The log file is called HardwareMonitering.hml but I dont think I am allowed to upload it here.
Upload it to mediafire.com then post a link to it.
Ok, I will do that after re-testing with atm743's suggestions.
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/15 00:34:13
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Ok here is a link to the log history. Check the latest log. https://www.mediafire.com/?jt45xzhncwf56s3 For some reason, it didn't randomly drop to base clock at all, although it might have been because I maximized performance for Heaven. Although, when I checked maximum performance for Heaven, the previous option was "set to global options". Global options were set to maximum performance anyway. Regardless, it stayed at 2101 for a bit and then stayed at 2088 MHz without ever changing again. Is this normal for an OC, even if it's not great? I have the card set to slave on the bios switch, and yet I can't get past 90 MHz core offset without Heaven blacking out randomly. Again, I am fine if the silicon lottery didn't favor me. I jut want to make sure I know the limits of my card and that everything is working fine at its best.
post edited by XxTaikenxX - 2016/11/15 00:37:55
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/15 00:37:20
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if you really care about the down-clock problem, you can try other bios with higher power limit.
but even you try other aib bios with more power limit, you should still get one level (13mhz) downclocked then you can have solid gpu clock.
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/15 00:40:25
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Ok here is a link to the log history. Check the latest log.
https://www.mediafire.com/?jt45xzhncwf56s3
For some reason, it didn't randomly drop to base clock at all, although it might have been because I maximized performance for Heaven. Although, when I checked maximum performance for Heaven, the previous option was "set to global options". Global options were set to maximum performance anyway.
Regardless, it stayed at 2101 for a bit and then stayed at 2088 MHz without ever changing again. Is this normal for an OC, even if it's not great? I have the card set to slave on the bios switch, and yet I can't get past 90 MHz core offset without Heaven blacking out randomly. Again, I am fine if the silicon lottery didn't favor me. I jut want to make sure I know the limits of my card and that everything is working fine at its best.
from 2101 to 2088, its normal // it seems unavoidable, even you are using aio cooling. if the clock keeps going down to 207x or 206x, then it should be related to the power limit. it is my experience on my 1070 ftw. the evga hybrid radiator fan is not good, buy a noctua f12 (ippc) or other fan with high static pressure.
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/15 00:49:00
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Ok here is a link to the log history. Check the latest log.
https://www.mediafire.com/?jt45xzhncwf56s3
For some reason, it didn't randomly drop to base clock at all, although it might have been because I maximized performance for Heaven. Although, when I checked maximum performance for Heaven, the previous option was "set to global options". Global options were set to maximum performance anyway.
Regardless, it stayed at 2101 for a bit and then stayed at 2088 MHz without ever changing again. Is this normal for an OC, even if it's not great? I have the card set to slave on the bios switch, and yet I can't get past 90 MHz core offset without Heaven blacking out randomly. Again, I am fine if the silicon lottery didn't favor me. I jut want to make sure I know the limits of my card and that everything is working fine at its best.
from 2101 to 2088, its normal // it seems unavoidable, even you are using aio cooling. if the clock keeps going down to 207x or 206x, then it should be related to the power limit. it is my experience on my 1070 ftw.
the evga hybrid radiator fan is not good, buy a noctua f12 (ippc) or other fan with high static pressure.
Well, the temperature stays at a cool 50c at load. Even if I got a better fan, I wouldn't necessarily get better performance, right? It would be more or less for the sound. Plus, I have no more fan slots on the mobo to regulate temps. Also, someone people have said that only fans work fully when plugged into the gpu. A lot of the beefier ones barely spin or not at all. But in terms of not winning the silicon lottery, is that still an ok OC for a gtx 1080 ftw with a hybrid kit?
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/15 01:31:56
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going from 2101 to 2088 in game or benches probably looses you less than 1% of performance. its not a huge deal. only way to avoid that drop is going full open loop with a full waterblock. its not just the gpu die that gets how. the VRM gets really hot. so even though you are getting low temps showing on the gpu while benching or gaming, the vrm still gets pretty hot. when i had my 980 Ti with a full EK block on it. i never had any drops with my core clock. it stayed pegged at whatever i set it at. but like i said its not a huge deal. that 13mhz core clock drop is not going to do anything.
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/15 01:46:28
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Ok here is a link to the log history. Check the latest log.
https://www.mediafire.com/?jt45xzhncwf56s3
For some reason, it didn't randomly drop to base clock at all, although it might have been because I maximized performance for Heaven. Although, when I checked maximum performance for Heaven, the previous option was "set to global options". Global options were set to maximum performance anyway.
Regardless, it stayed at 2101 for a bit and then stayed at 2088 MHz without ever changing again. Is this normal for an OC, even if it's not great? I have the card set to slave on the bios switch, and yet I can't get past 90 MHz core offset without Heaven blacking out randomly. Again, I am fine if the silicon lottery didn't favor me. I jut want to make sure I know the limits of my card and that everything is working fine at its best.
from 2101 to 2088, its normal // it seems unavoidable, even you are using aio cooling. if the clock keeps going down to 207x or 206x, then it should be related to the power limit. it is my experience on my 1070 ftw.
the evga hybrid radiator fan is not good, buy a noctua f12 (ippc) or other fan with high static pressure.
Well, the temperature stays at a cool 50c at load. Even if I got a better fan, I wouldn't necessarily get better performance, right? It would be more or less for the sound. Plus, I have no more fan slots on the mobo to regulate temps. Also, someone people have said that only fans work fully when plugged into the gpu. A lot of the beefier ones barely spin or not at all.
But in terms of not winning the silicon lottery, is that still an ok OC for a gtx 1080 ftw with a hybrid kit?
pascal gpu is very sensitive to gpu temp, so keep it as low as possible if you want to get highest core clock. if you are talking about performance in real gaming then lots of reviews show that from 2000 to 2100 the gain in performance is insignificant. therefore you should figure out what you are going for. jayztwocents changed the stock fan to a ek fan, with significant improvement on gpu temp. you can go check his 1080 hybrid video. if you care about acoustic then noctua may suit you well. you cant use 4pin y cable (two 4pin to one 4pin) to get extra fan support with the same fan header on mobo. you can use speedfan to control the radiator fan plugged to mobo. or you can choose to buy a 4pin to small 4pin fan so that you can plug your 4pin fan to the gpu pcb and get controlled from gpu. i like aio on gpu. much better temp and acoustic performance as well as overclocking room compared to air cooling. here are some tips for overclocking pascal gpu: 1. firstly apply -100mhz to gpu core offset 2. then use voltage curve oc with just raising the point of 1.093v, leave other points unchanged
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/15 02:26:47
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As far as I know, 50c is pretty damn cool for a gpu at load. I don't have the option to plug a fan into the mobo because all the slots are being used. Unless a really good fan, like the Be Quit Silent Wings 3, set at an aggressive fancurve plugged into the psu and regulated via a fan controller, which I don't own, lowers the temp to about 40 c, then maybe its worth doing it it I can get a higher clock. But if the boost is so small that it won't make much of a difference, why should I bother?
As someone said above, from 2088 to 2101, its almost unnoticeable. I was hoping to ave reached an stable OC of 2150 MHz, but I am never going to be able to reach that. I can only do a core offset of +90 MHz, which only ends up pushing my card to 2101. And it doesnt even stay there at full load.
I think I just need to face the truth that I wasn't as lucky as some other card owners.
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/15 03:32:39
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As far as I know, 50c is pretty damn cool for a gpu at load. I don't have the option to plug a fan into the mobo because all the slots are being used. Unless a really good fan, like the Be Quit Silent Wings 3, set at an aggressive fancurve plugged into the psu and regulated via a fan controller, which I don't own, lowers the temp to about 40 c, then maybe its worth doing it it I can get a higher clock. But if the boost is so small that it won't make much of a difference, why should I bother?
As someone said above, from 2088 to 2101, its almost unnoticeable. I was hoping to ave reached an stable OC of 2150 MHz, but I am never going to be able to reach that. I can only do a core offset of +90 MHz, which only ends up pushing my card to 2101. And it doesnt even stay there at full load.
I think I just need to face the truth that I wasn't as lucky as some other card owners.
you should google pwm splitter, 2 to 1 and 3 to 1 and even 4 to 1 are all available in the market. you should also check the techpowerup first pascal gpu review, there is a page analyzing the core clock fluctuation. pascal gpu, the reviewing one, started to throttle at 40c.
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/15 05:51:54
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50 C is pretty good. If you want lower temperatures you can:
1. Put a different fan on the radiator, or two fans in push/pull...you will have to drive them from your motherboard or a fan controller. If you drive off your motherboard, remember that the typical maximum current for motherboard fan headers is 1 amp...so check the current rating on your fans before you use a 2, 3, or 4 way PWM splitter.
I personally use two Corsair ML120 fans on my each of my 3 AIOs (one for CPU, 2 for GPU - I used the 1080 hybrid kit to mod an AIO onto my Titan X Pascal).
2. Run your GPU AIO radiator as intake into the case. The temperature will be cooler as the air across the radiator is the cooler room air versus the warmer internal air of your case. The downside is that you will be bringing in warmer air to cool your case components.
On my case, I run:
- 1 CPU AIO as intake (2 fans in push/pull)
- 2 GPU AIO as intake (2 fans in push/pull on each)
- 2 140 mm fans as intake
- 3 140 mm fans as exhaust
Each of my Titan X P cards stay below 45 C...and these cards draw a lot more power than a standard 1080. Internal temperatures are great (memory and all other components stay below 38 C).
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Re: Are these readings on my gtx 1080 FTW upgraded to Hybrid with AIO kit good?
2016/11/15 13:12:23
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Running prefer maximum performance doesn't force the card to run at boost clock speeds. Prefer maximum performance will only keep the card from falling below the base clock. 2100 is a great overclock.
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