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2014/09/19 04:30:02 (permalink)
I will definitely get a 970 (and another 1 later) but are waiting for a full cover water block. Is the EVGA's based on reference design?

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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/19 04:45:22 (permalink)
    The vanilla GTX 970 shown here as far as I am aware is the reference design:
     
    http://www.evga.com/Produ...aspx?pn=04G-P4-1970-KR

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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/19 05:19:32 (permalink)
    Nope, as far as I can tell no one is offering the 970 with the reference cooler (looks just like the 980 and Titan).
     
    http://www.geforce.com/ha...p-gpus/geforce-gtx-970

     
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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/19 06:13:27 (permalink)
    I have heard the 970 with reference cooler is only being offered to OEMs.  Retail 970s are what AnandTech calls "virtual" launch which means no reference version, all custom designs.  You will most likely have to wait for EVGA to come out with their "FTW" edition that uses the 980 PCB and ACX cooler but that may take a few weeks.
     
    The current 970s are not impressive imo, they basically extend the short cutdown PCB similar to the 670 and extend it, but the extension is basically for show, only has a few capacitors and resistors on it.  All the power delivery is still near the output end of the card.

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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/19 07:04:57 (permalink)
    Hey Guys any news about GTX 970 Reference available any where ?? Please i only need the ref design :) even its with Extra charge like the GTX 770 

    Just wait and see 
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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/19 07:40:42 (permalink)
    I am very interested in this one also.  I really like the look of the reference design as previously used on the 770, Titan Black, and now 980.  NVIDIA.com shows that design for the 970 as well.  Unfortunately, I don't really like the aesthetics of the non-ACX coolers put on the 970 by EVGA.  And, I only buy EVGA.  So... will there be something for me? 
     
     
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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/19 08:17:46 (permalink)
    I think some of you misunderstood, I'm interested in reference PCB to easily fit a full cover water block when its available (from EK, Coolance, Heatkiller etc.).

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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/19 08:35:57 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby oiwow 2014/09/19 08:40:30
    I'm pretty sure the reference EVGA model should work with reference waterblocks BUT I have asked EVGA if they can respond if time permits.

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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/19 08:48:00 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby oiwow 2014/09/19 08:48:56
    oiwow
    I think some of you misunderstood, I'm interested in reference PCB to easily fit a full cover water block when its available (from EK, Coolance, Heatkiller etc.).


    The 970 PCB is designed by us and is not considered your typical Nvidia reference. When waterblocks come out for this series, I would check to see if the specific part number you want is supported. 

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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/19 09:04:55 (permalink)
    Well, I'm looking at 2 x 04G-P4-0974-KR and hoping for a full cover in the near future. Any indication from water block producers if this is on their "roadmap"?

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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/19 13:30:39 (permalink)
    So no news about the GTX 970 with the Reference Cooler design ????????? 

    Just wait and see 
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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/19 13:49:32 (permalink)
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    So no news about the GTX 970 with the Reference Cooler design ????????? 


    The metallic reference shroud is built around reference PCB such as Titan, 780 (TI), 770, 980 ect. Since the 970 PCB is an EVGA design the metallic shroud physically will not fit. We do have a blower style, ACX and 2.0 for 970. Please let us know if you have any other questions.

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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/19 14:18:06 (permalink)
    oiwow
    Well, I'm looking at 2 x 04G-P4-0974-KR and hoping for a full cover in the near future. Any indication from water block producers if this is on their "roadmap"?

    As the EVGA tech Joey C. stated, the actual card itself has a different layout of the electronics from the standard GTX 970.

    You'll be better off for water cooling options if you choose a card which matches the NVIDIA reference for that model, like the 04G-P4-1970-KR which rjohnson11 suggested.
     
    If you buy non-reference cards, such as the 04G-P4-0974-KR, you should plan on air cooling only.

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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/20 00:04:57 (permalink)
    Eng_AlaaSo no news about the GTX 970 with the Reference Cooler design ?????????

    In their round-up, Toms Hardware said they didn't think they'd see any GTX 970 boards using the NVTTM cooler, as it was more expensive than the after-market coolers to produce, and the card wasn't expensive enough to make it worthwhile.  EVGA have got some non-reference "blower" types coming along, which might be "close enough"..?

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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/20 00:19:33 (permalink)
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    Eng_AlaaSo no news about the GTX 970 with the Reference Cooler design ?????????

    In their , Toms Hardware said they didn't think they'd see any GTX 970 boards using the NVTTM cooler, as it was more expensive than the after-market coolers to produce, and the card wasn't expensive enough to make it worthwhile.  EVGA have got some types coming along, which might be "close enough"..?


    Yea i guess that and the PCD design too as i talked to someone on EVGA sales team and he told me that GTX 970 PCB done by EVGA so the cooler design even if it will cost more it cant be done cause the PCB layout is different than Nvidia :) 

    Just wait and see 
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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/22 07:04:40 (permalink)
    Manli has a Gtx 970 with GTX 980 pcb and cooler ;)
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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/22 07:42:18 (permalink)
    It will be interesting, though, if blocks will be made for the non reference 970's. The reference 970's (the ones with the blowers on them) have a short pcb. They are actually compatible with the 670 water blocks from EK. The rest of the 970's with ACX cooling have a full pcb which doesn't have a block for it as of yet.
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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/22 09:34:20 (permalink)
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    Manli has a Gtx 970 with GTX 980 pcb and cooler ;)


    Yea they the only one :\

    Just wait and see 
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    Re: Are the GTX970 based on nVidia's reference design? 2014/09/22 09:37:09 (permalink)
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    So no news about the GTX 970 with the Reference Cooler design ????????? 


    The metallic reference shroud is built around reference PCB such as Titan, 780 (TI), 770, 980 ect. Since the 970 PCB is an EVGA design the metallic shroud physically will not fit. We do have a blower style, ACX and 2.0 for 970. Please let us know if you have any other questions.


    I thought u guys can make a Reference GTX 970 like the OEM with extra charge :\

    Just wait and see 
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