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2016/10/29 06:37:10 (permalink)
I read the article on wccf.com in regards to the ACX 3.0 1070/1080's and the situation with the VRAM/VRM overheating and potentially burning down and I wanted to see if EVGA knows yet if this will also affect the ACX 3.0 1060's, and if so, what will come about of this.
 
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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/29 17:35:12 (permalink)
    The answer is no. The 1070/1080's don't have problems. Tomshardware testing methods were flawed.
    post edited by Sajin - 2016/10/29 18:38:18


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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/29 20:38:03 (permalink)
    Sajin
    The answer is no. The 1070/1080's don't have problems. Tomshardware testing methods were flawed.




    You seriously need to stop saying this.  There is obviously a problem.  All these issues being reported, myself included are not a coincidence.  Get a grip and quit speaking for the company.  EVGA just needs to step up and take responsibility for this flaw and move on.  You telling people there are no problems is not helping anything.
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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/29 20:46:37 (permalink)
    Just cause EVGA "said it" doesn't mean its a fact yet. No-one really knows till Tomshardware follows up with new tests.
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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/30 00:26:59 (permalink)
    Sajin
    The answer is no. The 1070/1080's don't have problems. Tomshardware testing methods were flawed.




    This is incorrect.
     
    They use the same basic board, with the same chips that are used across gpus.  Yes they could. Time will tell.

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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/30 16:55:03 (permalink)
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    Sajin
    The answer is no. The 1070/1080's don't have problems. Tomshardware testing methods were flawed.




    You seriously need to stop saying this.  There is obviously a problem.  All these issues being reported, myself included are not a coincidence.  Get a grip and quit speaking for the company.  EVGA just needs to step up and take responsibility for this flaw and move on.  You telling people there are no problems is not helping anything.


    Maybe you missed this? www.evga.com/thermalmod
     
    The pads are optional.
     
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    The answer is no. The 1070/1080's don't have problems. Tomshardware testing methods were flawed.




    This is incorrect.
     
    They use the same basic board, with the same chips that are used across gpus.  Yes they could. Time will tell.


    You're incorrect. The 1060 does not use the same pcb as the 1070/1080.


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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/30 17:01:47 (permalink)
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    The pads are optional.




    Aren't they re-doing the tests with the pads? Wouldn't that be indicative of needing the pads? I mean why re-do the test at all with the pads if there is no problem? Why not just re-do the tests without the pads if the "methods were flawed"?
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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/30 17:20:28 (permalink)
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    The pads are optional.




    Aren't they re-doing the tests with the pads? Wouldn't that be indicative of needing the pads? I mean why re-do the test at all with the pads if there is no problem? Why not just re-do the tests without the pads if the "methods were flawed"?


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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/30 20:11:58 (permalink)
    Its concerning that even the administrators are either in denial or playing it down (maybe by request to counter bad publicity).
    I don't see the pads being optional. If cards are failing at a disturbing rate due to heat, then the pads start to seem mandatory. 

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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/30 21:16:58 (permalink)
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    The answer is no. The 1070/1080's don't have problems. Tomshardware testing methods were flawed.




    You seriously need to stop saying this.  There is obviously a problem.  All these issues being reported, myself included are not a coincidence.  Get a grip and quit speaking for the company.  EVGA just needs to step up and take responsibility for this flaw and move on.  You telling people there are no problems is not helping anything.


    Maybe you missed this? www.evga.com/thermalmod
     
    The pads are optional.
     
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    The answer is no. The 1070/1080's don't have problems. Tomshardware testing methods were flawed.




    This is incorrect.
     
    They use the same basic board, with the same chips that are used across gpus.  Yes they could. Time will tell.


    You're incorrect. The 1060 does not use the same pcb as the 1070/1080.




    Yes I missed that as my 1070 SC BURNED OUT before I found out about these problems.  Don't try your BS crap on me Sajin.  And of course they are "optional"  people have the option to either get them or not.  But not getting the mod is pretty much pulling the pin on a grenade.  I suggest you quit giving out false and misleading information to people until this most obvious of problems comes to center stage and you and the rest of the moderators quit trying to cover up this problem that isn't even your responsibility to do so.
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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/30 21:19:21 (permalink)
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    Its concerning that even the administrators are either in denial or playing it down (maybe by request to counter bad publicity).
    I don't see the pads being optional. If cards are failing at a disturbing rate due to heat, then the pads start to seem mandatory. 




    Agreed.  I feel like I am stuck in some kind of Twilight zone here.  Maybe all these people that are covering up this issue will pay for everyone to get a new card when they burn out?  Nope probably not, bunch of punk keyboard warriors covering up something they have no business butting into.
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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/30 22:10:59 (permalink)
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    Its concerning that even the administrators are either in denial or playing it down (maybe by request to counter bad publicity).
    I don't see the pads being optional. If cards are failing at a disturbing rate due to heat, then the pads start to seem mandatory. 




    Agreed.  I feel like I am stuck in some kind of Twilight zone here.  Maybe all these people that are covering up this issue will pay for everyone to get a new card when they burn out?  Nope probably not, bunch of punk keyboard warriors covering up something they have no business butting into.




    Can't wait till all this is over with. I can't see clearly defined criteria's and options for RMA's let alone game with it as is.
    The little they have said is "Its totally fine to risk your card in your machine, we'll replace it anyways." lol no thanks.
    Your twilight zone analogy is fitting being stuck in this in-between state. I just wanna get on with it and play games.
    post edited by NucleusX - 2016/10/30 22:17:52

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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/30 23:31:36 (permalink)
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    Its concerning that even the administrators are either in denial or playing it down (maybe by request to counter bad publicity).
    I don't see the pads being optional. If cards are failing at a disturbing rate due to heat, then the pads start to seem mandatory. 




    Agreed.  I feel like I am stuck in some kind of Twilight zone here.  Maybe all these people that are covering up this issue will pay for everyone to get a new card when they burn out?  Nope probably not, bunch of punk keyboard warriors covering up something they have no business butting into.


    I never knew EVGA reps were 'keyboard warriors'. And seems to me they have just as much right to comment as you or anyone else. If I may, folks seem to be conflating two issues, the VRM and memory area which runs hotter than other models under extreme stress conditions and the few scattered failures of SMD components on the back of the GPU. One is not likely related to the other. I looked on quite a few sites on the net and all I'm seeing are very few actual failures. I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong on noting there are only a couple actual hardware failures.

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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/31 14:59:40 (permalink)
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    I never knew EVGA reps were 'keyboard warriors'.

    +1


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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/31 15:34:34 (permalink)
    SaJin you are a helpful member to me before but you can't say Toms methods are flawed without backing it up. 
     
    Us owners of 1060 SC have a legit reason to be afraid. 
     
    All i I can say is that if EVGA is found out to be downplaying and suppressing this issue, it could end very badly for them. I still need EVGA around in case I have a warranty that needs exercising.
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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/31 15:39:43 (permalink)
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    SaJin you are a helpful member to me before but you can't say Toms methods are flawed without backing it up. 
     
    Us owners of 1060 SC have a legit reason to be afraid. 
     
    All i I can say is that if EVGA is found out to be downplaying and suppressing this issue, it could end very badly for them. I still need EVGA around in case I have a warranty that needs exercising.


    Here is my backup... http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2571438




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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/31 17:25:48 (permalink)
    Would like a firm answer/verification on this as I'll be installing one of these in my HTPC soon.
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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/31 18:25:46 (permalink)
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    SaJin you are a helpful member to me before but you can't say Toms methods are flawed without backing it up. 
     
    Us owners of 1060 SC have a legit reason to be afraid. 
     
    All i I can say is that if EVGA is found out to be downplaying and suppressing this issue, it could end very badly for them. I still need EVGA around in case I have a warranty that needs exercising.


    Here is my backup... http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2571438




    Doesn't really matter if they are "flawed." What matters is that the VRMs on EVGA cards do run quite a lot hotter than the ones on other vendor cards, using the same testing method.
     
    And the 1060s run even hotter than the 1070/1080s.

     
    http://www.tomshardware.de/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal-gp106-grafikkarten-roundup,testberichte-242152-2.html#3
     
    We'll just have to wait and see what these higher temps will mean in the future.

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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/31 18:39:08 (permalink)
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    http://www.tomshardware.de/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal-gp106-grafikkarten-roundup,testberichte-242152-2.html#3
     
    We'll just have to wait and see what these higher temps will mean in the future.



    Why can I not find this page here http://www.tomshardware.com ?

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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/31 18:41:24 (permalink)
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    http://www.tomshardware.de/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal-gp106-grafikkarten-roundup,testberichte-242152-2.html#3
     
    We'll just have to wait and see what these higher temps will mean in the future.



    Why can I not find this page here http://www.tomshardware.com ?


    No idea. Maybe the team at the .com site hasn't reviewed it yet. 
    Either way, you can always google translate it, I guess.

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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/10/31 18:51:13 (permalink)
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    http://www.tomshardware.de/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal-gp106-grafikkarten-roundup,testberichte-242152-2.html#3
     
    We'll just have to wait and see what these higher temps will mean in the future.



    Why can I not find this page here http://www.tomshardware.com ?


    No idea. Maybe the team at the .com site hasn't reviewed it yet. 
    Either way, you can always google translate it, I guess.


    Not the same. Thanks
    In fact I am not finding anything on http://www.tomshardware.com about EVGA and VRM Issues or any other issue with EVGA.
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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/11/01 20:36:23 (permalink)
    Let's not gloss over this.
     
    (the picture that's shown is done by tomshardware germany, hence the .DE extension)
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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/11/03 00:01:48 (permalink)
    I want a response in regards to this photo:
     

    post edited by Systom - 2016/11/03 00:17:41
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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/11/03 00:16:31 (permalink)
    Systom
    bump
     
    I want a response in regards to this photo:
     



    Saying "bump" to bring this thread to the top isn't allowed. Please read the evga forums tos... http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-Forums-Terms-of-Use-m4682.aspx
     
    Increasing the gpu fan speed should lower the temps greatly. That photo was most likely taken with the gpu on auto/default fan settings. Auto/default fan settings prioritize silence over temps. Tom's was also running furmark for the torture loop test, furmark is known for making cards run really hot/blowing them up. Under normal gaming conditions & higher fan speeds the temps will be greatly reduced.
    post edited by Sajin - 2016/11/03 00:27:40


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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/11/03 00:30:26 (permalink)
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    bump
     
    I want a response in regards to this photo:
     



    Saying "bump" to bring this thread to the top isn't allowed. Please read the evga forums tos... http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-Forums-Terms-of-Use-m4682.aspx
     
    Increasing the gpu fan speed should lower the temps greatly. That photo was most likely taken with the gpu on auto fan settings. Auto fan settings prioritize silence over temps.



    Given you're a moderator and all, perhaps you should read the TOS a bit better yourself, it states if you create a thread, you are not allowed to bump it. I did not create this thread, nor am I annoyingly even just "bumping" it without any further cause.
     
    -removes word "bump", and now everything OK-
     
    I don't like your responses regarding this VRM issue, you were flat out denying there was any problem yet now it's full blown known there was in fact a problem.
     
    I already forwarded this information to Steve at GamerNexus, expecting a real answer that won't fall on deaf ears--if I can add thermal pads and not have to blast my fans at 100% for better cooling, then so be it, I want to know that information.
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    Re: Are ACX 1060's affected by 1070/1080 Situation. 2016/11/03 00:39:24 (permalink)
    OP or not saying "bump" to bring the thread to the top isn't allowed. Thanks for removing the word "bump" from your post.


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