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2014/12/26 19:22:32 (permalink)
 In reading alot of tech. sites i'm not getting a firm idea of the release date of the 
980TI and Titan 2's.
(The 960's are due in mid-late Jan...so maybe it's Q1 2015 for the new high end models?)
 
 Does anyone here have a good idea when these are expected? 
 
 I'm looking to get more performance from a Titan(first version) and the 980 is teasing,
but i don't wish to be kicking myself, if say the 980TI(6GB?) is released in Feb. or
March.
 
 TIA for any updated info.
 
btw: A few sited like below have a Feb. release set. But that does seem kinda early.
 
 http://www.kdramastars.co...80-ti-release-date.htm
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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2014/12/26 20:05:00 (permalink)
    There is no concrete info regarding this.
     
    I would speculate end of March, 2015 as the probable release date of the Titan II. 

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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2014/12/30 13:35:04 (permalink)
    Wow that looks like it might be a great card. Too bad they came out with the 980 so far behind the TI. 

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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2014/12/30 13:55:32 (permalink)
    As Baasha said, we won't see anything concrete until it's launched. The leaks will intensify as the date draws closer, but the vast majority of them will be garbage. How do you know what's real until you see the product?
     
    One thing I'm almost certain is that there will be no 980 Ti. Judging by history, there will first be a Titan branded card followed by a new series featuring other GM200 based GPU's with some GM204 based cards filling out the lower end of the series ala the 700 series. Nvidia will almost certainly get two series out Maxwell like they have every other architecture, so I fully expect to see the GM200 cards fall in the next series. The only way I can see this being otherwise is if Nvidia has plans to move forward with a GM214 and GM210 that are produced on the 16 nm process. If that is the case, then we may see a Titan II and a 980 Ti that are both 28 nm GM200 based cards with the next series being reserved for 16 nm. I'm starting to think that we will never see 16 nm Maxwell though, with all the rumors of delays at the foundries.
     
    As far as when it comes out, there is nothing pushing a non-Titan card until AMD brings something that beats the 980. So until that happens, I agree with Baasha, Titan II probably sometime in March and the rest TBD. I do not expect the Titan II to be as groundbreaking as the original Titan was with respect to their predecessors (the 980 and 680 respectively). Anand's Titan launch review showed it being 47% faster on average than the GTX 680. Most people expect a full GM200 to be around 35% faster than the GTX 980 (full GM204). Of course, this is pure speculation. We won't know until we see the final product. I do sincerely believe though, that without a die shrink, Titan II doesn't stand a chance to be near as groundbreaking as original Titan, just like the 980 has been a pretty lackluster gain over a 780 Ti compared to say a 680 over a 580. Per the Titan staples though, I'm sure it will still have double the memory and exclusive access to Double Precision compute.
     
    That's probably enough rambling, but there's my two cents. And it probably isn't even worth that.

     
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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 03:21:15 (permalink)
    Missing is the 'Titan' single chip 6gb modeling, all "Titans" are just about discontinued. Something has to be marketed soon to fill the vacuum.
    Be it a '980' or 'Titan', something is needed with a single with providing 6+GB.
    The water cooled 12GB TitanZ had two chip design @ >< 1600$, so a person could dedicate one PCIe slot, but drew a lot of power. I'm hoping for a 6+GB in any single chip varience as long as bandwidth is high... SOOONNN!
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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 03:30:40 (permalink)
    Titan Z is air cooled. R9295X2 was water cooled.

     
     
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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 03:38:39 (permalink)
    Fennicillin
    Titan Z is air cooled. R9295X2 was water cooled.


    The gtx 980 AIO will be water-cooled as well.
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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 05:40:39 (permalink)
    I'm currently in a step-up window.....
     
    Could someone from EVGA chime in on this please?
     
     


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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 05:43:33 (permalink)
    EVGA is held by a non disclosure agreement so you won't get an answer until the official nvidia release.
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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 05:51:03 (permalink)
    Well..... That really sucks. Especially when people are waiting to pull the trigger for an upgrade.


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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 06:18:07 (permalink)
    The only thing I can say... Don't buy until the upgrade is out... You know it is coming before hand, lol.
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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 08:27:01 (permalink)
    Also they will wait until the Kingpin edition has passes its maximum sales curve to ensure they get max sales on all cards

     



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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 12:34:55 (permalink)
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    Also they will wait until the Kingpin edition has passes its maximum sales curve to ensure they get max sales on all cards


    So... stuck with 4GB cards till 'Kingpin' runs out? That may be a few months. Hardly makes sense that the MFGers would set aside all cards with more than 4GB... just so 4BG cards will sell. I don't need Quadro for Polygons and GPU vid rendering, which is a considerable market place,


    I guess I'll get a 'King' and retire a 660Ti I use for viewport, buy a couple '980Ti's/TitanX's when they finally come to market. Just seems strange a noticeable market place (Titans 6+GB) would be empty/no serve for months on end.
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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 13:52:25 (permalink)
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    Also they will wait until the Kingpin edition has passes its maximum sales curve to ensure they get max sales on all cards


    So... stuck with 4GB cards till 'Kingpin' runs out? That may be a few months. Hardly makes sense that the MFGers would set aside all cards with more than 4GB... just so 4BG cards will sell. I don't need Quadro for Polygons and GPU vid rendering, which is a considerable market place,


    I guess I'll get a 'King' and retire a 660Ti I use for viewport, buy a couple '980Ti's/TitanX's when they finally come to market. Just seems strange a noticeable market place (Titans 6+GB) would be empty/no serve for months on end.


    There's a market alright, it just makes more business sense, without real competition, for NVIDIA not to release anything after Kingpin for a few months. If not for NVIDIA then for EVGA.

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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 14:16:54 (permalink)
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    Also they will wait until the Kingpin edition has passes its maximum sales curve to ensure they get max sales on all cards


    So... stuck with 4GB cards till 'Kingpin' runs out? That may be a few months. Hardly makes sense that the MFGers would set aside all cards with more than 4GB... just so 4BG cards will sell. I don't need Quadro for Polygons and GPU vid rendering, which is a considerable market place,


    I guess I'll get a 'King' and retire a 660Ti I use for viewport, buy a couple '980Ti's/TitanX's when they finally come to market. Just seems strange a noticeable market place (Titans 6+GB) would be empty/no serve for months on end.
     Well, I'm not the person that defines


    There's a market alright, it just makes more business sense, without real competition, for NVIDIA not to release anything after Kingpin for a few months. If not for NVIDIA then for EVGA.




     Well, I'm not the person that defines what is or isn't 'real competition', but I would argue in any other field, not having 'competition'// ie'6GB', is what every MFG hopes for, be the one and only. The scenario I would consider relevant would be if the MFGer was selling junk, for an arm and a leg. In which case, then there is little reason for vesting into further development..
    But that's just IMHO. I'm not suggesting 980's are 'junk', but the 6GB+ market must be a 'given' for Nvidia and largely EVGA, as dollars are on the table, and no providers/takers.
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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 14:32:59 (permalink)
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    Also they will wait until the Kingpin edition has passes its maximum sales curve to ensure they get max sales on all cards


    So... stuck with 4GB cards till 'Kingpin' runs out? That may be a few months. Hardly makes sense that the MFGers would set aside all cards with more than 4GB... just so 4BG cards will sell. I don't need Quadro for Polygons and GPU vid rendering, which is a considerable market place,


    I guess I'll get a 'King' and retire a 660Ti I use for viewport, buy a couple '980Ti's/TitanX's when they finally come to market. Just seems strange a noticeable market place (Titans 6+GB) would be empty/no serve for months on end.
     Well, I'm not the person that defines


    There's a market alright, it just makes more business sense, without real competition, for NVIDIA not to release anything after Kingpin for a few months. If not for NVIDIA then for EVGA.




     Well, I'm not the person that defines what is or isn't 'real competition', but I would argue in any other field, not having 'competition'// ie'6GB', is what every MFG hopes for, be the one and only. The scenario I would consider relevant would be if the MFGer was selling junk, for an arm and a leg. In which case, then there is little reason for vesting into further development..
    But that's just IMHO. I'm not suggesting 980's are 'junk', but the 6GB+ market must be a 'given' for Nvidia and largely EVGA, as dollars are on the table, and no providers/takers.


    There is a small market for gamers that game past 4k. The current crop of cards all suffice up until 4k resolution. Additionally, there is no competition for the GTX 980 in terms of a single-GPU card. My opinion, EVGA is filling the gap before the next Maxwell release, which would mean MINIMUM 2-3 months after the release of Kingpin. Whether it will be a 4GB or 6GB card is anyone's guess.

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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 14:45:50 (permalink)
    I can see them releasing a Ti well after the 980 has run its course, just like with the 780ti.

    I can see the high memory capacity, after the 980ti runs most of its course, JUST like the 780 6gb. There is no competition or reason to go above and beyond.
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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 15:03:58 (permalink)
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    I can see them releasing a Ti well after the 980 has run its course, just like with the 780ti.

    I can see the high memory capacity, after the 980ti runs most of its course, JUST like the 780 6gb. There is no competition or reason to go above and beyond.

    You use High GB cards... I suspect for a reason, a reason already 'justified', or you wouldn't. I believe you've already worked with Titan. are you saying it 'wasn't justified'?
    To say, Nvidia may not 'justify', sure, but a market with more than 4GB on a chip/card is a justified market as they have a place, and 6 months without that existing market being filled, from my point of view, is not 'justified'.
    But as i said "I'm not the person that defines what is or isn't 'real competition'", the consumer it seems never is in a market place with few providers. Thanks for an idea for when the marketplace will be justified, I'm certain a buildup of possible customer revenue will be well in place.
    Awaiting the 980'Ti' and hope it will have the at least, 780Ti 6GB.
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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 15:11:14 (permalink)
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    I can see them releasing a Ti well after the 980 has run its course, just like with the 780ti.

    I can see the high memory capacity, after the 980ti runs most of its course, JUST like the 780 6gb. There is no competition or reason to go above and beyond.

    You use High GB cards... I suspect for a reason, a reason already 'justified', or you wouldn't. I believe you've already worked with Titan. are you saying it 'wasn't justified'?
    To say, Nvidia may not 'justify', sure, but a market with more than 4GB on a chip/card is a justified market as they have a place, and 6 months without that existing market being filled, from my point of view, is not 'justified'.
    But as i said "I'm not the person that defines what is or isn't 'real competition'", the consumer it seems never is in a market place with few providers. Thanks for an idea for when the marketplace will be justified, I'm certain a buildup of possible customer revenue will be well in place.
    Awaiting the 980'Ti' and hope it will have the at least, 780Ti 6GB.


    I don't know where you get your info, but my 760's have 4gb of vram. My Ti's have 3gb of Vram.

    The 780 NON Ti had 6gb, was a weaker card, and had issues with the Ram in some instances.

    NVidia doesn't care what is justified by their customers, or there would have been a fully unlocked 780, not needed a Ti at all. The Ti was the challenge to the 290x after it came out and nvidia way of showing off how big their willy was. Had the 290x underperformed the 780, you would have never seen the Ti.
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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/28 20:42:50 (permalink)
    I, like anyone else here, would LOVE more RAM. Everyone seems to forget that with more VRAM comes WAY more stability issues. There's a reason the 980s are 4GB, and it's not because NVIDIA or EVGA wants to stick it to the consumer.

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    Re: Any word of late of the release date of the 980TI/Titan2? TIA 2015/01/29 00:47:23 (permalink)
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    I, like anyone else here, would LOVE more RAM. Everyone seems to forget that with more VRAM comes WAY more stability issues. There's a reason the 980s are 4GB, and it's not because NVIDIA or EVGA wants to stick it to the consumer.





    One of Nvidia's current projects is a 24GB card. Titan Blacks with 6GB were nice, and I should have purchased some after using them on another's 'puter, ^GB doesn't present stability problems, cheap MFGing does. But the build wasn't ready. I think Radeon and Nvidia might be given way too much slack.. but as they 'are the supply'/as others have said and most all massively dominant commercial concerns for that matter..
    Been 'building since the mid eighties, the future of 'choice' doesn't look good. Another decade we'll look at these days almost as frivolous as CPU chips and Boards are welded, Vid cards are decided likewise.
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