https://youtu.be/zykKYbJ7V50

Pretty interesting. Zen honestly looks promising but of course Intel is still on top. It just matters on how amd prices zen. I mean the bench is close considering amd's is an 8 core while the broadwell e is 6. Either way I see it as a win for AMD.

I don't know about faster clock cycles however everything is indicating pretty close performance. Knowing AMD, they will have excellent pricing to try and take a jab at intels market share and it will work. Whose gonna complain about an 8 core cpu that's basically on par with Intel but better pricing?

owcraftsman
Clock for clock is not a good comparison stock to stock clocks is. I hate these slight of hand tricks but that said still impressive performance. I'll wait til reviewers get there hands on but I'm inclined to support there efforts if for no other reason than to kick Intel in the arse.

I'm pretty much of this opinion..other than to say that I'll probably still buy Intel simply because I like them better (shrug)
 

owcraftsman
For me it depends on how over clock-able they are but just like FPS games without dedicated servers I won't buy them no matter how badly I want the game. I vote with my dollars and if AMD is even close to on par I will support them with my vote/dollar. I've been "ticked" to death by Intel.

Understandable...I tend to stay with what works for me without issues...that's been Intel...even if it is more expensive. Worth it to me.
 
I *LOVE* the competition though..it keeps intel and amd working and improving.
 

1 benchmark is nothing. More reviews are needed.

Another unfair comparison. I'm glad it's faster clock per clock, but that doesn't mean much if their processor is only capable of 3Ghz while the Intel can do 4 or 5Ghz. As a consumer I just want the best performance for least money. IPC isn't really an issue if one processor makes up for it with pure clock speed advantage

Fact is the 6800k stock clock is 3400/3800 boost not much of a hill to climb there but more revealing is the 6700k is on avg 10% faster than a 6800k. Sadly we are all waiting for software to utilize more than one core which is where AMD has fallen behind the most. Still the price point is typically less for AMD procs which will make it a solid value if that holds true for this product.
 
@Bruno747 +1
the AM4 motherboards will make or break the deal as well.

AMD is notorious for releasing bogus benchmarks.
 
People really believe AMD still?
 
Do I really need to bring up Bulldozer?

Viper453
I will need to take my 6900k back and get an 8 core zen it looks like :(

You'll also need to buy another motherboard. 

Its actually quite crazy how a 6700K is like 20% faster than a 4770k? Lets also not forget how incredible the 980X is and also the 5650+ Xeons in term of multi core performance...lol Intel really hasn't made any leaps here in the past 5 years.

Yes but with Intel even 3 generation give 40% improvements.
That's terrible. And I look Broadwell-EX i7-6850X and I think everyday is it worth to invest on him. 
But smart man would wait Coffee Lake and invest in 200$ mATX board and one 6 core Intel.
 
People could expect more performance with Coffee Lake, before that I doubt.
Only price of Skylake-EX and Kaby Lake could go down if AMD launch something good.
But with Coffee Lake we could expect single threaded performance and higher clock
as main stream and speed in multi threaded bigger than Extreme 6 cores processors.
And Coffee Lake-Extreme and Cannon-Lake-Extreme should be little bigger improvement. Before that I doubt. 
They finished them almost, now is late, Now they could go with higher frequency. And 4.5GHz for i7-7700K will be 20% improvements to i7-6700K.
But 20% because they not work on same clock. Same is Haswell-EX and Broadwell-EX. And Intel go with 4.5GHz Turbo probably only because AMD.
That's highest Turbo Frequency ever...higher than i7-4790K. Probably because AMD improve performance of their 8 core processors. 
Skylake platform was so expensive and that was insane... People didn't invest in X99 and wait 1 year and that figure out that X99 is better option.
People who want premium need 1000$ and more for premium motherboard and i7-6700K Z170 for mainstream.
Motherboard price reach 500$ and very small number of people bought them... Maximus VIII Extreme and similar.
Maximus V Extreme was 350$. If AMD launch something good price need to go down seriously. 
But people could expect to AMD ask 250-260$ for good CPU not 150$.
Except that we can't say anything before CINEBENCH, Geekbench and Firestrike and similar results show up.
 
 

GloR1ouS_
https://youtu.be/zykKYbJ7V50
Pretty interesting. Zen honestly looks promising but of course Intel is still on top. It just matters on how amd prices zen. I mean the bench is close considering amd's is an 8 core while the broadwell e is 6. Either way I see it as a win for AMD.

Watch the video again, and read up a bit more about the demostration:  the ES Zen is going against i7-6900K, the 8c-16t model downclocked to 3GHz, not the 6-core-12-thread.
 
 
The whole purpose of the video demonstration is to show parity with Intel's HEDT, that's it.  Clock-for-clock, per thread, is nearly identical between Summit Ridge and Broadwell-E in Cinebench, this means they would have nearly identical parity in the same benchmark if they were both overclocked to the same frequency.  Of course, everything in HEDT looses to mainstream because those quad-cores are running at higher frequencies and programs are not typically fully-multi-threaded, therefore the Zen 8-core will loose to anything in Intel's Z-platforms due to its low clock; we don't need a review to prove that.
 
Intel's options come Zen are pretty obvious: They may drop the 10-core to $999, the 8-core 6900K may drop to $500, the 6850K may drop to 6800K's price and I figure 6800K will EOL as it would overlap or cannblize 6700K/7700K. 

pat39576
 
As it was pointed out, AMD is known for cheaper parts compared to Intel, but from the sounds of it, you likely would be spending more on a zen build right off the bat than an Intel build as most of Intel's CPUs include an iGPU while AMD makes it sound like the FX chips will be first and those rarely have iGPUs.

I mean, if you're building a high end desktop and using integrated graphics though?

lehpron

GloR1ouS_
https://youtu.be/zykKYbJ7V50
Pretty interesting. Zen honestly looks promising but of course Intel is still on top. It just matters on how amd prices zen. I mean the bench is close considering amd's is an 8 core while the broadwell e is 6. Either way I see it as a win for AMD.

Watch the video again, and read up a bit more about the demostration:  the ES Zen is going against i7-6900K, the 8c-16t model downclocked to 3GHz, not the 6-core-12-thread.
 
 
The whole purpose of the video demonstration is to show parity with Intel's HEDT, that's it.  Clock-for-clock, per thread, is nearly identical between Summit Ridge and Broadwell-E in Cinebench, this means they would have nearly identical parity in the same benchmark if they were both overclocked to the same frequency.  Of course, everything in HEDT looses to mainstream because those quad-cores are running at higher frequencies and programs are not typically fully-multi-threaded, therefore the Zen 8-core will loose to anything in Intel's Z-platforms due to its low clock; we don't need a review to prove that.
 
Intel's options come Zen are pretty obvious: They may drop the 10-core to $999, the 8-core 6900K may drop to $500, the 6850K may drop to 6800K's price and I figure 6800K will EOL as it would overlap or cannblize 6700K/7700K. 

No matter what happen people with X99 platform will have better chance. 
Expensive Z170 platform with 4 cores could look very bad near AMD. In worse case we could invest i7-6900K if Intel drop price to stay in race, and AMD no way to catch i7-6900K even with 8 cores CPU. I simple don't believe in that until I see him. Maybe beat 4 cores in multi applications, even 6 cores on fabric frequency but 8C/16T Intel cores no way. If AMD launch something good than I need to sell i7-5820K and i7-3770K to invest in 8 core Intel for X99.
They should remove i7-6800K from market even before launch... They had much bigger chance to sell i7-6850K to Haswell-EX owners but Nooo they want max price. Even i7-6800K was 40$ more expensive than i7-5820K. 

6800k is 440 bucks on newegg..the 6850k is 610 bucks.

This is not insignificant. I can see why people get the 6800k...