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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/10/20 10:09:52
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Are you guys all using custom BIOSes when you overclock? Or just using the stock bios?
I always stay on stock just for warranty reasons. I realize that some cards have dual bios to allow to have one modded but I still prefer to stay on stock.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/06 15:40:47
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my old EVGA GTX 570HD 250MB is 79.8% ASIC and my new EVGA GTX 970 ACX 1.0 is 64.4%. I won't be doing any kind of overclock anyway... not videocard, not CPU.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/06 17:38:48
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My gtx 780ti classified is 72.4% ASIC and it has a vid of 1.2v from the factory. And the overclock max tomb raider stable is 1170mhz. Seems with that ASIC it should be a bit better chip.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/08 09:54:10
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I have two GTX980.
One with 70.5% ASIC and another one with 73% ASIC.
What value is considered good?
Can you explain me what ASIC is exaclty?
Is it something that influence stock cards too?
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/08 10:09:04
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I have two GTX980.
One with 70.5% ASIC and another one with 73% ASIC.
What value is considered good?
Can you explain me what ASIC is exaclty?
Is it something that influence stock cards too?
I think it is honestly explained a few times throughout this thread. It is basically an assumption of how much power bleeds off while the Core is working. The higher the asic, the lower the temperatures and the lower the asic that more energy it requires while producing more heat. Some think the 73% should overclock better on air. I don't believe in the hype 100% honestly. And this affects all GPUs, stock, modified, customized by people like T|n and K|ngp|n and more. They are all susceptible ad they all expend energy in the process of carrying out their tasks.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/08 10:31:47
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Sweet 970 you got there -- good OC and temps as well.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/08 10:48:48
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Sweet 970 you got there -- good OC and temps as well.
Thanks. This card can go much higher.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/08 17:37:14
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Hey i too have gigabyte gtx970 g1 gaming and my game stable oc is  With upped voltage it can run 3d mark firestrike even at 1600Mhz. My asic is only 66,5%. Im running custom bios on it with lower fan speed and higher voltage at low load.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/08 17:37:59
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My EVGA 970SC is a pretty crappy clocker that gets hot without doing much, throttling all the time because of temps. Now that i test it for a whopping ASIC of 59% i should not wonder.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/09 17:28:22
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I too didn't win the lottery. My 980 Classified has ASIC of 66.1 percent and is stable at 1504 MHz. 1504 MHz is amazing but I have seen some lesser card hit that easily. My Firestrike score of 11,200 isn't all that impressive either. I can play everything at max settings and that's all that matter for me :).
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/09 19:13:57
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I too didn't win the lottery. My 980 Classified has ASIC of 66.1 percent and is stable at 1504 MHz. 1504 MHz is amazing but I have seen some lesser card hit that easily. My Firestrike score of 11,200 isn't all that impressive either. I can play everything at max settings and that's all that matter for me :).
What CPU, that sounds pretty low in Firestrike. My 780 TI Classified beats that score with stock clocks.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/09 20:48:08
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/09 20:51:02
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Sorry if it's a stupid question but can somebody please explain what the "ASIC" quality means?
ASIC = Application Specific Integrated Circuits. Circuits that are hard-wired to do what they're designed to do. Every single chip in your computer is an ASIC. A GPGPU is a GPGPU. A CPU is a CPU. Every chip is cut from a wafer and some are better than others.... determining the quality is called "binning". Not sure how GPU-Z is determining the ASIC quality here though. The ASIC level refers to the electrical leakage level. Higher leakage, uses more current, lots more. Low leakage less voltage for the current clock speed. A high ASIC card would use less voltage to run at the stock clocks. On air you want the highest ASIC card you can get. On water you want something around 74%. 60% and under is for liquid nitrogen.
+1 if you want a good ocing card, and or one you know that will last then yes it matters.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/09 21:32:15
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These are the highest clock I can get too. If I go any higher I receive the drivers crash and restore error. GPU +100, Mem +100, Power Target 125%. Left Voltage at 0 since increasing it doesn't help stabilize anything. My CPU is a 4690k. I reran firestrike and got 12076 which is better. Barley made it over 1500 though. I don't know how to get GPU-Z to screenshot ASIC. 
You can only add 100MHz to the memory clock?
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/10 00:36:31
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970 SSC ACX 2.0 ASIC 79.8% 3dMark Firestrike 11059...unfortunately I am not able to post a link to that... 
post edited by TahoeDust - 2014/11/10 00:38:33
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/10 01:12:53
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970 SSC ACX 2.0
ASIC 79.8%
3dMark Firestrike 11059...unfortunately I am not able to post a link to that...
TahoeDust, that's a nice 970! With those scores is your TDP maxing out at 110%? Best I can get out of my 66.9% ASIC SC 970 (blower style) is 1499MHz - Firestrike score of 10760. Seems about right as my SC is rated about 60MHz lower than the SSC ACX 2.0 out of the box. Yangsong should add some more to his Memory Clock and bench his 980 again.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/10 01:23:47
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TahoeDust
970 SSC ACX 2.0
ASIC 79.8%
3dMark Firestrike 11059...unfortunately I am not able to post a link to that...
TahoeDust, that's a nice 970!
With those scores is your TDP maxing out at 110%?
Best I can get out of my 66.9% ASIC SC 970 (blower style) is 1499MHz - Firestrike score of 10760.
Seems about right as my SC is rated about 60MHz lower than the SSC ACX 2.0 out of the box.
Yangsong should add some more to his Memory Clock and bench his 980 again.
Thanks. I actually did not check TDP. I will bench it again tomorrow and check for you.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/10 02:13:45
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I think one guy with 52% ASIC OC K|NGP|N Classified over 1500MHz without LN2.
Others with low ASIC talk about 1300MHz boost without voltage increase on same card.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/10 06:03:12
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Ok dumb question incoming and google gave me a answer..i think...but not sure if its correct. When ppl say there "folding" what does that imply exactly? Like i said i think i got answer or maybe it has more than one meaning.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/10 12:57:31
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/10 14:00:06
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970 SSC ACX 2.0
ASIC 79.8%
3dMark Firestrike 11059...unfortunately I am not able to post a link to that...
TahoeDust, that's a nice 970!
With those scores is your TDP maxing out at 110%?
Best I can get out of my 66.9% ASIC SC 970 (blower style) is 1499MHz - Firestrike score of 10760.
Seems about right as my SC is rated about 60MHz lower than the SSC ACX 2.0 out of the box.
Yangsong should add some more to his Memory Clock and bench his 980 again.
I just ran Firestrike again and this time hit 11099. The TDP maxed out at 118%. Is that normal?
Here is what I am looking at:
Yep, seems normal given your oc. If you up the Core Voltage in Afterburner to 37Mv ("Unlock voltage control" under General in Settings) see if it drops a few %. My TDP max is 115% @ 37Mv.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/10 14:14:25
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 My ASIC quality is at 75.8%. Above is my current overclock on my 980 SC. +140% Power Target, 91C Temp Target and set as priority, +110 MHz on the GPU and +300MHz on memory. That gets me in the ballpark of 1527MHz GPU (Boost clock) /7610MHz MEM (effective). Oddly its only stable when I fix my fan speed to 30%. Keeps it cool just fine so I think theres a bit of instability when it draws power to ramp the fan higher. I eventually intend to put a water block on it and thus remove the fan to alleviate that power draw but I'm pretty happy with these numbers.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/10 17:37:18
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I wonder what people are getting for asic on their 980 classified.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/16 00:21:08
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I have two EVGA 980 SC ACX 2.0's with their ASIC quality at 80.6% and 80.8%. I can't seem to keep a stable clock of 1475hz without getting blue artifacts.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/16 01:13:55
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970 SSC ACX 2.0
ASIC 79.8%
3dMark Firestrike 11059...unfortunately I am not able to post a link to that...
That's nipping at the heels of my 780 ti WITH my overclock. O.O
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/16 13:10:18
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1 of my 2 classy's asic is 81.9 will check other one soon (does 1575ish and 4200ish stable)
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/11/25 13:02:27
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First day with my new rig my cards are at 78.1% and 72.7% ...guess i'm good !!!
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/12/03 03:54:58
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I dont manually overclock, card can stay pegged at the factory OC of 1405mhz.
ASIC quality is 70.3%.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters??
2014/12/03 05:20:40
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Ok dumb question incoming and google gave me a answer..i think...but not sure if its correct. When ppl say there "folding" what does that imply exactly? Like i said i think i got answer or maybe it has more than one meaning.
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