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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2014/12/03 06:20:50 (permalink)
67% and 72% and 81% on my GTX 980 HC Graphics Cards.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2014/12/08 19:19:18 (permalink)
hitting 1500+ @ 68.8% no voltage adjustment  sc/w acx 2.0 it might just be hit or miss.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2014/12/09 12:16:09 (permalink)
Gpu-z says mine 970 ACX2.0 has ASIC quality 84.3% so I gues that's good :)
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2014/12/10 08:45:06 (permalink)
As a reference, here's my 780 Classy. It did 1293Mhz on the core on air, but had to lower it to 1260 or 1283 because of the heat. Even though the fans was at 100% it had trouble staying under 75 degrees. However, just as said before it only required a voltage of 1.162V. I've since then moved on to water and I am now able to push it to 1393Mhz on 1.35V (haven't really bothered trying to go higher or play around with it more, at these clocks the card has a quite high coil whine so I only go for a high OC when a game absolutely demands it.
 

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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2014/12/11 12:11:23 (permalink)
980 SC ACX 2.0
ASIC 73.3%
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2014/12/20 01:45:39 (permalink)
just got my replacement GTX 770, ASIC quality is 77.8% and boost clock is 1201mhz,
 
my old card was 86.2% and 1228mhz, oh well I didn't lose that much performance.

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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/05 14:01:33 (permalink)
I have the 980 SC ACX 2.0 with an ASIC quality of 66.1%  


Is that a bad thing now ? :((
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/05 14:05:16 (permalink)
Ya im gonna go out on a limb and say this really dont matter...I had a 980 classy first that was 80% and could only go about 1501 tops before crashing on benches. Other reasons made me send the card back for a new replacement so the 2nd 1 i got only had 72 or 71% and i am rock stable at 1541 for few months now and could honestly probably go higher as the voltage is not even maxed out nor the power temp so in my exp...asic dont matter, maybe im wrong but just going off my own exp. 

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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/05 15:32:46 (permalink)
thanks for the quick reply. what were the reasons for sending the card back? i have a weird noise coming from the cooler when it turns up or down the fans
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/05 16:33:29 (permalink)
My gtx 970 (3975) has a asic of 69.5 and I have it overclocked to 1505 core with +300 on memory. Over voltage set to +87mV but it only ever uses +50mV in games.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/05 18:17:42 (permalink)
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thanks for the quick reply. what were the reasons for sending the card back? i have a weird noise coming from the cooler when it turns up or down the fans




 
I was having a weird downclock issue at 70C in games when its not suppose to throttle back untill 79C, even in benches it did it. Honestly didnt think it was defaulty at first but was under the 30 day warranty so got a new one and this one did not downclock like previous 1 so guess something was wonky with it. 

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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/06 16:32:56 (permalink)
you can link the value of ASIC with the potential of overvoltage? I'll explain ... hypothetically, how can I increase the voltage on a card with a 70% asic?
 
my asic with a 970 sc is 73.2% .. the fact that I can increase (evga precision) the overvoltage up to a maximum of + 37Mv is tied to the value of the ASIC?
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/07 03:17:52 (permalink)
guys ther is a way to see cpu asic?? just curious



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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/22 05:30:49 (permalink)
new here how do you determine the asic quality.thanks
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/22 08:52:54 (permalink)
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new here how do you determine the asic quality.thanks


Use GPUz ,right click on the top left corner and choose Read ASIC quality.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/22 10:14:55 (permalink)
74.6%
Boosts 1580 max I have seen it bench marking.
1383Mhz gpu 1811Mhz mem now boosts 1545-9

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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/22 16:13:00 (permalink)
so guys?  ther is a way to see cpu asic??



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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/22 17:54:49 (permalink)
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so guys?  ther is a way to see cpu asic??

Nope.


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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/23 20:04:07 (permalink)
GTX 970 FTW+ at 62% ASIC rating, I never seem to get ANYWHERE near the power limit or temperature limit yet my max OC that's stable in benches is 1480 and 1450 is (semi-stable) in games.

Pretty much any overclock will cause irritating issues such as grey screens (in non-demanding games) that require me to tab out and back in occasionally.
 
I have not touched the voltage at all, or played with any custom bios.. But I feel like changing the minimum and maybe maximum voltage could help in stabilizing my card as it's a little frustrating.
 
Anyone have any suggestions? P.S. (Usually at 70% power, 60C, 1480 brick wall at stock voltage w/ 500 mem clock)
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/23 20:21:49 (permalink)
I think us PC-type people just love stats/numbers, regardless of whether they actually mean anything.

 
ASIC numbers don't mean a damned thing...
 

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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/23 20:51:57 (permalink)
ASIC matters not
Got a 970 71.1 asic can only do 1503
Got 970 sc 70.4 can do at least 1531
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/23 21:24:10 (permalink)
ASIC scores matter to the extent that it is used to set the idle and boost clock voltages and impacts what the stock boost clock will be based on a table.
Lower ASIC score ranges will have higher default voltages and lower boost clocks the converse for higher ASIC scores. Overclocking, while somewhat affected by the ASIC score, still follows the 'silicon lottery' rules for the most part.

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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/23 21:43:30 (permalink)
So HeavyHemi, your saying despite ASIC score (Which is theoretically JUST voltage leakage) your actual maximum clock speed will differ between all ASIC's?
 
Higher ASIC is just likely to help alleviate / remove power + temperature bottlenecks in overclocking scenarios where you don't have a brick wall.

Right?
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/24 04:59:31 (permalink)
My 980 classy have 84.9 % ASIC and I'm happy with the default clock boost which does 1580 without doing any OC.
I think I hit the jackpot with this card. Now I need to wait for ekwb waterblock to arrive this week.
post edited by ginko147 - 2015/02/24 05:04:14
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/24 20:10:56 (permalink)
lol i have to ask....what is the classy? That is an insane stock boost! jackpot is right! anyone one else ever just suck a boost w/o oc?
 
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My 980 classy have 84.9 % ASIC and I'm happy with the default clock boost which does 1580 without doing any OC.
I think I hit the jackpot with this card. Now I need to wait for ekwb waterblock to arrive this week.




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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/02/24 23:15:17 (permalink)
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So HeavyHemi, your saying despite ASIC score (Which is theoretically JUST voltage leakage) your actual maximum clock speed will differ between all ASIC's?
 
Higher ASIC is just likely to help alleviate / remove power + temperature bottlenecks in overclocking scenarios where you don't have a brick wall.

Right?


Maybe. ASIC scores are used to bin the GPU's to set idle vid and boost vid. This is based on a table where ASIC score ranges, define the vid and boost.
A higher ASIC score does not necessarily translate into higher overclock. It may allow you to overclock at a lower voltage and temp.  It only takes one weak transistor or gate for an overclock to fail.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/07/14 06:39:22 (permalink)
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you can link the value of ASIC with the potential of overvoltage? I'll explain ... hypothetically, how can I increase the voltage on a card with a 70% asic?
 
my asic with a 970 sc is 73.2% .. the fact that I can increase (evga precision) the overvoltage up to a maximum of + 37Mv is tied to the value of the ASIC?



 I only heard about ASIC yesterday for the first time.   My old evga 680 4 gig GPU's  only scored 71.7 and 71.9
and I have overvoltaged them.  Will the score go up if I remove voltage and go back to stock ?
I recently bought used water blocks and both GPU's are running very cool now.

 I find this all so interesting as its brand new to me.   


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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/07/14 09:05:19 (permalink)
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I only heard about ASIC yesterday for the first time.   My old evga 680 4 gig GPU's  only scored 71.7 and 71.9
and I have overvoltaged them.  Will the score go up if I remove voltage and go back to stock ?
I recently bought used water blocks and both GPU's are running very cool now.

I find this all so interesting as its brand new to me.  

Are you asking if your asic score will go up if you add/remove voltage? If that's your question the answer is no. Asic of your card is what it is.

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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/07/14 22:57:48 (permalink)
I see this thread's been places.
 
I think people are making a big deal out of nothing. It's not like they're advertising guaranteed high ASIC scores, overclocks or whatnot. On the other hand, if manufacturers cherry-picked tested high overclockers and sold them at a premium, then they'd have an obligation to deliver the numbers.
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Re: ASIC Quality really matters?? 2015/08/07 14:37:10 (permalink)
mikeownage.com/pc/gpu-z-titan-x.PNG
 
I have the Titan X Hybrid and as such did I get a good one?
 
I can't seem to use the img tag :( or post a link
 
I thought the Titan X was a DirectX 12 Card? I am on Windows 10 x64 Pro but GPU-Z shows the card as DirectX 11.2?
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