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2014/04/09 14:23:00 (permalink)
Well, this is one impressive card.  The power draw is amazing.....in a bad way lol.  However the performance is incredible, and the cooling solution performs way better than I thought it would.
 
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/04/08/amd_radeon_r9_295x2_video_card_review#.U0W5oPgjulM
 
$1,500.....ouch.

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/09 16:43:57 (permalink)
    way better than 3k for Titan Z. Although the official specs haven't been released for Titan Z, I don't see me spending that kind of money unless it blows me away, even then... I doubt it. 1500 is pretty reasonable for that performance. You'd be better off running one of these babies than crossfire 290X's on stock cookers. The temps would be ridiculous!! Quad Crossfire with a couple EK blocks on this bad boy . Im a Nvidia fanboy but kudos to Team Red!
    Plus looking at Toms review , it performed decently well at 4k! 

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/09 21:54:56 (permalink)
    Yes, I too am very impressed with what they have done with this card. Insane performance and it doesn't sound like a 747 is taking off in your house while doing it.....and you can't fry eggs on it under load either....thumbs up AMD.

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/10 00:10:26 (permalink)
    Yeah, really awesome (and really expensive one) card.
     
    I want the same cooling system to be purchasable for my 290X. It seems a very good cooling solution.

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/14 08:07:16 (permalink)
    Well as a VGA card collector of 3dfx, ATi, AMD, NMAtrox, NVIDIA & S3 VGA cards, ATi it's self has always have impressed me greatly since they released the R300 VPU which was used for the Radeon 9700 pro, their greated revolution ever.
    Since that ATi aka Array Technology Industry was was sold by it's founder David Orton and sold to AMD's founder Hector Ruiz in 2007, since that day AMD has only made the Radeon line a better one, mainly feature & driver wise.
     
    As the Radeon R9 295X2 goes, it's indeed a brilliant design,it is by far the best consumer based VGA card ever made, especially when it comes to max performance, build quality and acoustics
    This card will even beat the Titan Z in all grounds I think, that is IF NV Plans on using two GK110-450-B1 GPGPU's on it, 2x GTX Titan Black performs similar to that of 2x GTX 780 Ti, that being said this test which Kyle Bennett made clearly shows than two GTX 780 Ti's were destroyed in every test, this also proves that CFX Scales much better via the PCI-Express slots than SLI via a Ribbon cable, when comparing the two R9 290X''s over the 250 Euro more expensive GTX 780 Ti's, just brilliant.
     
    The Radeon R9 290X has made me love the Radeons more alongside the Geforce's, just mainly due to the good driver support, great performance in every game I have come across and the multiple HD Video editing settings, the Radeon R9 290X is the best Radeon I used since the Radeon HD 6990, the experience is just better than I would of expected, so yer can't go wrong there
     
    But!  Still I do seek a pair of EVGA GTX 680 FTW+ 4GB Cards for my SLI based setup  No rush with that yet, but yer ebay is a way I guess!
     
    This drew me the bottom line as that entire review went:
     
    "On the performance end of things the AMD Radeon R9 295X2 allowed the highest level of gameplay experience compared to everything else. We were able to play games on the 4K display at settings we weren't able to before. Performance was exceptional, and the fact that it was delivering that performance near silently made the experience exceptional.
     
    AMD has done a great job with this 295X2 video card. This is by far one of the best engineering builds AMD has done on a gamer level consumer video card. This is AMD's greatest achievement thus far for a gamer card in terms of build quality, thermal performance, and sound profile. That said, the price does seem slightly high, we would have rather have seen this around $1300. Granted, you pay for the best, and this certainly is the best from AMD."
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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/14 18:51:29 (permalink)
    I was going to wait for one but went with Two PowerColor LCS AXR9 290X 4GBD5-WMDH/OC Radeon R9 290X 4GB 512-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Cards $700.00 Each
     

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/15 01:33:30 (permalink)
    heh they are quite expensive in USA it seems, here in the Netherlands you can grab a vanilla R9 290X from Sapphire for 439 Euro:
    http://tweakers.net/categorie/49/videokaarten/producten/#filter:q1bKL0pJLXLLTM1JUbJSKijKzCpW0oEIBucXlQDFEouT4SIFqcmeQHW6hjogpcmpvpl5SlYGOkrFQAm3zJyS1KJiJatqJSMjEFmWmKNkFa1kbmxspBRbW1sLAA
     
    Which is the model I have, if water cooling is your thing you could of gone for a good EK water cooling set for your R9 290X and get more out of it:
    EK-FC-R9-290X-Nickel:
    http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/353954/ek-waterblocks-ek-fc-r9-290x-nickel.html
     
    So for roughly 439 + 96 = 535 Eur you are done and you have a much better solution as well
    Which would cost probably 535 a 600 USD in your area, as that is mostly the case, unless this has changed a lot due to that Bitcoin/Litecoin mining stuff, even over here in NL that had no influence at all tho, as the R9 290X prices go.


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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/15 02:52:51 (permalink)
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    heh they are quite expensive in USA it seems, here in the Netherlands you can grab a vanilla R9 290X from Sapphire for 439 Euro:
    http://tweakers.net/categorie/49/videokaarten/producten/#filter:q1bKL0pJLXLLTM1JUbJSKijKzCpW0oEIBucXlQDFEouT4SIFqcmeQHW6hjogpcmpvpl5SlYGOkrFQAm3zJyS1KJiJatqJSMjEFmWmKNkFa1kbmxspBRbW1sLAA
     
    Which is the model I have, if water cooling is your thing you could of gone for a good EK water cooling set for your R9 290X and get more out of it:
    EK-FC-R9-290X-Nickel:
    http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/353954/ek-waterblocks-ek-fc-r9-290x-nickel.html
     
    So for roughly 439 + 96 = 535 Eur you are done and you have a much better solution as well
    Which would cost probably 535 a 600 USD in your area, as that is mostly the case, unless this has changed a lot due to that Bitcoin/Litecoin mining stuff, even over here in NL that had no influence at all tho, as the R9 290X prices go.


    I picked up a sapphire 290x for 363 shipped. Grabbed a H50 for 41.50 and I'm gonna grab a NZXT Kraken G10 and throw it under water, all for $434 USD

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/15 09:28:12 (permalink)
    ah nice, good bargain you got there then 
    But hey here in The Netherlands you are always more expensive than anywhere else lol, the prices I posted are the cheapest in the country, here in NL we pay a vat of 21% which is 3.1% higher than anywhere else
     
    If something is 435 USD in USA it's 435 EUR or more as the price I showed 439EUR ... now convert 439EUR to USD and you will be shocked..
    It always has been like this and in time these differences shall only escalate, oh well too bad then, other things are better here in NL, like wealth & health care; which is more important to me anyway
     
    post edited by Gold Leader - 2014/04/15 09:30:50


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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/15 10:49:39 (permalink)
    Gold Leaderhere in NL we pay a vat of 21% which is 3.1% higher than anywhere else



    Hehe, got you beat on that, here we're paying 24% VAT

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/15 11:54:09 (permalink)
    Hmm okay dayum that sucks even more manAye.. I feel yer pain man.
    Germany seems to be the better place to be if planning on buying hardware from the EU, even though ebay is mostly the better way to go for, even in combination with shipping and custom taxes, ebay is quite oftenly the cheapest way to go for xD Quite funny right !
     
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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/16 07:05:36 (permalink)
    Interesting but not impressed with the ugly AIO unit,also not impressed that they run so hot u need to watercool to do anything. Also reveiw is from H very AMD freindly if u know what i mean.

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/16 07:26:54 (permalink)
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    Also reveiw is from H very AMD freindly if u know what i mean.



    I thought the same thing. But ultimately it seems to be a great graphics card. I wouldn't use it because I'm finished with ATI after 2 burned cards and their silly drivers but still this might put the pressure on NVIDIA. Maybe they will have to change plans about their coming cards (in a - for us - good way).
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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/16 07:30:49 (permalink)
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    heh they are quite expensive in USA it seems, here in the Netherlands you can grab a vanilla R9 290X from Sapphire for 439 Euro:
    http://tweakers.net/categorie/49/videokaarten/producten/#filter:q1bKL0pJLXLLTM1JUbJSKijKzCpW0oEIBucXlQDFEouT4SIFqcmeQHW6hjogpcmpvpl5SlYGOkrFQAm3zJyS1KJiJatqJSMjEFmWmKNkFa1kbmxspBRbW1sLAA
     
    Which is the model I have, if water cooling is your thing you could of gone for a good EK water cooling set for your R9 290X and get more out of it:
    EK-FC-R9-290X-Nickel:
    http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/353954/ek-waterblocks-ek-fc-r9-290x-nickel.html
     
    So for roughly 439 + 96 = 535 Eur you are done and you have a much better solution as well
    Which would cost probably 535 a 600 USD in your area, as that is mostly the case, unless this has changed a lot due to that Bitcoin/Litecoin mining stuff, even over here in NL that had no influence at all tho, as the R9 290X prices go.


    I picked up a sapphire 290x for 363 shipped. Grabbed a H50 for 41.50 and I'm gonna grab a NZXT Kraken G10 and throw it under water, all for $434 USD


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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/16 19:46:47 (permalink)
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    heh they are quite expensive in USA it seems, here in the Netherlands you can grab a vanilla R9 290X from Sapphire for 439 Euro:
    http://tweakers.net/categorie/49/videokaarten/producten/#filter:q1bKL0pJLXLLTM1JUbJSKijKzCpW0oEIBucXlQDFEouT4SIFqcmeQHW6hjogpcmpvpl5SlYGOkrFQAm3zJyS1KJiJatqJSMjEFmWmKNkFa1kbmxspBRbW1sLAA
     
    Which is the model I have, if water cooling is your thing you could of gone for a good EK water cooling set for your R9 290X and get more out of it:
    EK-FC-R9-290X-Nickel:
    http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/353954/ek-waterblocks-ek-fc-r9-290x-nickel.html
     
    So for roughly 439 + 96 = 535 Eur you are done and you have a much better solution as well
    Which would cost probably 535 a 600 USD in your area, as that is mostly the case, unless this has changed a lot due to that Bitcoin/Litecoin mining stuff, even over here in NL that had no influence at all tho, as the R9 290X prices go.


    I picked up a sapphire 290x for 363 shipped. Grabbed a H50 for 41.50 and I'm gonna grab a NZXT Kraken G10 and throw it under water, all for $434 USD


    See http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1233&page=3
    I have done  9 GTX 680/690/780 It is sometimes a real pain to install water blocks to GPUs.


    Yea I know, I'm having problems trying to find proper vramsinks as I'm worried about the vrm's frying on it...

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/17 00:57:26 (permalink)
    I would not change mine dear GeForce for two Hawaii on one PCB...
    Card need one 8pin and full cover block. AMD will never know what EVGA could make from their cards.
     
    As you can see only our cards have such value, more expensive when customers sell than in shop, 1580$. 
    More expensive and better than R9-295X.
     
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    post edited by Vlada011 - 2014/04/17 01:00:19

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/17 05:29:28 (permalink)
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    I would not change mine dear GeForce for two Hawaii on one PCB...
    Card need one 8pin and full cover block. AMD will never know what EVGA could make from their cards.
     
    As you can see only our cards have such value, more expensive when customers sell than in shop, 1580$. 
    More expensive and better than R9-295X.
     
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GTX-780-Ti-Classified-KINGPIN-Edition-03G-P4-3888-KR-FREE-Worldwide-Ship-/321342277579?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item4ad17e07cb 

    Is that for real?
    Why would someone really pay that much for a single card when the OEM has it stock for only $859.99
    I still will not use ebay for anything.

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/17 09:28:20 (permalink)
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    I would not change mine dear GeForce for two Hawaii on one PCB...
    Card need one 8pin and full cover block. AMD will never know what EVGA could make from their cards.
     
    As you can see only our cards have such value, more expensive when customers sell than in shop, 1580$. 
    More expensive and better than R9-295X.
     
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GTX-780-Ti-Classified-KINGPIN-Edition-03G-P4-3888-KR-FREE-Worldwide-Ship-/321342277579?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item4ad17e07cb 

    Is that for real?
    Why would someone really pay that much for a single card when the OEM has it stock for only $859.99
    I still will not use ebay for anything.


    But I just picked up a 290x for 363 on ebay. Best deal ever...

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/17 16:51:24 (permalink)
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    I would not change mine dear GeForce for two Hawaii on one PCB...
    Card need one 8pin and full cover block. AMD will never know what EVGA could make from their cards.
     
    As you can see only our cards have such value, more expensive when customers sell than in shop, 1580$. 
    More expensive and better than R9-295X.
     
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GTX-780-Ti-Classified-KINGPIN-Edition-03G-P4-3888-KR-FREE-Worldwide-Ship-/321342277579?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item4ad17e07cb 

    Is that for real?
    Why would someone really pay that much for a single card when the OEM has it stock for only $859.99
    I still will not use ebay for anything.


    But I just picked up a 290x for 363 on ebay. Best deal ever...


    Indeed, the R9 290X performs faster or as fast as a GTX 780 Ti thx to Cat 14.4 and with Crossfire 95% of all the test two R9 290X's destroy two GTX 780 Ti's, that to which cost each 240 euro's more ... 
     
    So yer, I am more than just happy with  R9 290X I have now and this R9 295X2 is a monster, that's for true and I am very sure it will even beat the ultra over priced Titan Z price wise and performance wise, the thing is, is that the Hawaii GPU's are much newer tech wise than the almost 15 month old GK110's, that is a fact that still stands.
    So with this as a major advantage, every new driver AMD programs, these can make the Hawaii GPU's lots faster, efficient and more fine tuned in the end.
    As for GK110, they are already fine tuned, I don't think there is much to get out of them, driver wise, I do hope so for the GK110 users out there, but I have great doubts for seeing aGK110 improve massively from a driver fix even today
     
     
    Yet I plan to ride out until R9 290X hits in August this year, for everything I do my R9 290X does everything just fine.
     


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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/17 17:05:27 (permalink)
    The 290x is faster? nVidia is able to charge more for a slower card? Nice.


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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/17 18:55:43 (permalink)
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    I would not change mine dear GeForce for two Hawaii on one PCB...
    Card need one 8pin and full cover block. AMD will never know what EVGA could make from their cards.
     
    As you can see only our cards have such value, more expensive when customers sell than in shop, 1580$. 
    More expensive and better than R9-295X.
     
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GTX-780-Ti-Classified-KINGPIN-Edition-03G-P4-3888-KR-FREE-Worldwide-Ship-/321342277579?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item4ad17e07cb 

    Is that for real?
    Why would someone really pay that much for a single card when the OEM has it stock for only $859.99
    I still will not use ebay for anything.


    But I just picked up a 290x for 363 on ebay. Best deal ever...


    Indeed, the R9 290X performs faster or as fast as a GTX 780 Ti thx to Cat 14.4 and with Crossfire 95% of all the test two R9 290X's destroy two GTX 780 Ti's, that to which cost each 240 euro's more ... 
     
    So yer, I am more than just happy with  R9 290X I have now and this R9 295X2 is a monster, that's for true and I am very sure it will even beat the ultra over priced Titan Z price wise and performance wise, the thing is, is that the Hawaii GPU's are much newer tech wise than the almost 15 month old GK110's, that is a fact that still stands.
    So with this as a major advantage, every new driver AMD programs, these can make the Hawaii GPU's lots faster, efficient and more fine tuned in the end.
    As for GK110, they are already fine tuned, I don't think there is much to get out of them, driver wise, I do hope so for the GK110 users out there, but I have great doubts for seeing aGK110 improve massively from a driver fix even today
     
     
    Yet I plan to ride out until R9 290X hits in August this year, for everything I do my R9 290X does everything just fine.
     


    Yea I just got my 290x today and it runs awesome, at 1080p on ultra in BF4, I'm getting around 80-100FPS (I do think my processor is bottlenecking though, time to OC). I couldn't be happier with it, my mom on the other hand... She doesn't like the jet engine in our living room but she knows I bought a Kraken G10 so she is just dealing with it for a few days until it gets here lol.

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/17 20:03:14 (permalink)
     

    Indeed, the R9 290X performs faster or as fast as a GTX 780 Ti thx to Cat 14.4 and with Crossfire 95% of all the test two R9 290X's destroy two GTX 780 Ti's, that to which cost each 240 euro's more ... 

     
    I'd like to see an actual reference to this with the new nvidia drivers. from what i've seen the 780ti sli with the new drivers are better than the 290x (unknown drivers though) and the tests were side by side tests.
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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/20 07:56:48 (permalink)
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    The 290x is faster? nVidia is able to charge more for a slower card? Nice.


    NVIDIA is greedy, they don't care about their customers, they only care about money sadly...
    NVIDIA likes to rip people off, only they will never get the chance to rip me off lol Good luck with that...
     
    The cheapest R9 290X costs 439 Euro in my country now:
     
    Now try finding a similar of slightly faster NVIDIA card for that same amount, things is you won't succeed, no where, no chance at all.
    AMD wins here, hands down with price performance, max performance & Multi GPU performance, period no ways going around that
     
    The more games I play with my Sapphire Radeon R9 290X the more I respect AMD for this awesome VGA card, it is a shame many underestimate it, they are probably blinded by NVIDIA's lies, propaganda and bad marketing, their loss I'm like.
    Sorry for sounding so Pro ATi/AMD, it is not my intention to upset people here, really it isn't, but it's just that I am waking up, realsing that NVIDIA isn't the best anymore, you can't win all the time, so as that goes, NV is now second place, and AMD first, it's just the way it is for now and it can always change for both sides
     
    As R9 295X2 goes, well I do greatly agree the cooling isn't handy for some, mainly because not everyone has a 120mil fan placement in the rear of their cases, mine has a 140mil fan placement in the rear of the case, so placing a 120mil radiator won't go easy, but I guess there are ways to mod it, only I don't do such things, so nah, I just can't be bothered in the end, the chance of something going wrong is possible, so for that part I could not trust myself to mod something like that.
     
    Even that it's 1500 USD over NV's shocking 3000 USD, it's still loads faster than NV's Titan Z Solution all due to that the Titan Z is a downclocked Titan making it probably slower than two GTX 780 TI's as well, that making the R9 295X2 lots faster and half the price BUT! for roughly 622 euro's less you have 2x R9 290X and yeah you just save 622 EUR for the same performance, just y getting two R9 290X's right.
     
    I find 500 Euro a lot for a High End VGA card and enough as well, But yeah a Dual Chip design can have it's advantages for those that only have one PCI-E slot or run a system that has no CFX support, I guess it comes from all ways
     
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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/20 10:17:40 (permalink)
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    The 290x is faster? nVidia is able to charge more for a slower card? Nice.


    But form what I have been reading a Stable One, and users are frying their AMD to out do the 780Ti Cards 

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/21 02:58:29 (permalink)
    As for them high scores those Radeons are working beyond their expected limits as them GeForces are, every OC'ed product is working beyond it's factory limits this will make them fry faster than a stock card or a OC'ed card that lies within the safe zones, I can tell you that them GTX 780 Ti's won't live long either, it could be that oen of them Radeon's was a bad run from the line and then Anti Radeon users are making them look bad, I mean I can do that with a GeForce any day Lets see, hmm GeForce 8800, GTX 200, 400 and 500 series and Ovens? rofl!  Now where did they go wrong there, eh? Cheap quality parts and bad quality solder perhaps ... Ah that makes sense
    And that with stock speeds or Safe OC's, yeah I think we all know about that, right
     
    But so far I have never seen anyone fry a Radeon before even with a high OC, so I dunno where they are getting such inaccurate information from, but then again all types of electronics can fail new or old well built or not, yet the chance of a Radeon dying over a GeForce is just far less than the other way around, just due to the better quality solder & quality parts used, even bit helps it seems.
     
     


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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/21 06:00:54 (permalink)
    I would like to see some scores on your Valkyrie SMP 2014 Rig so that I have something to compare my R9 290X to.

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/21 06:26:05 (permalink)
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    The 290x is faster? nVidia is able to charge more for a slower card? Nice.


    NVIDIA is greedy, they don't care about their customers, they only care about money sadly...
    NVIDIA likes to rip people off, only they will never get the chance to rip me off lol Good luck with that...
     
    The cheapest R9 290X costs 439 Euro in my country now:
     
    Now try finding a similar of slightly faster NVIDIA card for that same amount, things is you won't succeed, no where, no chance at all.
    AMD wins here, hands down with price performance, max performance & Multi GPU performance, period no ways going around that
     
    The more games I play with my Sapphire Radeon R9 290X the more I respect AMD for this awesome VGA card, it is a shame many underestimate it, they are probably blinded by NVIDIA's lies, propaganda and bad marketing, their loss I'm like.
    Sorry for sounding so Pro ATi/AMD, it is not my intention to upset people here, really it isn't, but it's just that I am waking up, realsing that NVIDIA isn't the best anymore, you can't win all the time, so as that goes, NV is now second place, and AMD first, it's just the way it is for now and it can always change for both sides
     
    As R9 295X2 goes, well I do greatly agree the cooling isn't handy for some, mainly because not everyone has a 120mil fan placement in the rear of their cases, mine has a 140mil fan placement in the rear of the case, so placing a 120mil radiator won't go easy, but I guess there are ways to mod it, only I don't do such things, so nah, I just can't be bothered in the end, the chance of something going wrong is possible, so for that part I could not trust myself to mod something like that.
     
    Even that it's 1500 USD over NV's shocking 3000 USD, it's still loads faster than NV's Titan Z Solution all due to that the Titan Z is a downclocked Titan making it probably slower than two GTX 780 TI's as well, that making the R9 295X2 lots faster and half the price BUT! for roughly 622 euro's less you have 2x R9 290X and yeah you just save 622 EUR for the same performance, just y getting two R9 290X's right.
     
    I find 500 Euro a lot for a High End VGA card and enough as well, But yeah a Dual Chip design can have it's advantages for those that only have one PCI-E slot or run a system that has no CFX support, I guess it comes from all ways
     




    But yet u are on a nvidia forum? Maybe u should stick to AMD forums 

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/21 06:58:36 (permalink)
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    I would like to see some scores on your Valkyrie SMP 2014 Rig so that I have something to compare my R9 290X to.


     
    Oh hai
     
    Well I don't run Futuremark garbage on any my systems, nor I OC my hardware, that falls under hardware abuse, as being a collector this R9 290X has a special value as it was given to me by my recently passed away grandmother so I don't think I can be much of help there.
     
    Most of it it not for need but mainly pure interest, 1CPU systems bore me 2CPU systems do not, it's just the way I am and as for benchmarks, I don't build an 8000 Euro machine to run them, I build them to use it for my apps, sorry for sounding a bit agitated, you prolly know why, sorry for that
     
    Valkyrie SMP 2014 is the League of Dilo's Primal Carnage Server and yes I do play on it as the same time I am hosting 28 to 32 manned server without any speed loss and other games are hosted with it at the same time along side the LoD server. It runs dead stable and it does me everything I need it to do, which is sufficient info for me, I don't need a benchmark to tell me what it can do, only my apps can do that.
     
    outlawii

    But yet u are on a nvidia forum? Maybe u should stick to AMD forums

    Uhm No? I Have a wide variety of VGA cards and most people know where to place me, you obviously do not... At least you did one thing, made yourself look bad..lol
     
    You need to learn that you can't always make up negative influences of people you don't even knowm especially an infernal VGA card collector like me ... Most people here at EVGA know my past with 3dfx Interactive, VGA cards and other things, it seems you lack this.
     
    Maybe you should give this topic a good read before you accuse me of such lame things again eh?
    http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=2030876
     
    Well in a short way of saying, I beta tested drivers  on 3dfx Engineering Samples for 3dfx Interactive and then later x-3dfx, which 3dfx was renamed to after NVIDIA bought 3dfx's assets on December 15, 2000. And still am one of the humble x-3dfx crew members, an Admin on their Facebook page, which is here:
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/x3dfx/
     
    The VGA cards I have experience with and the amount I have had, outgoes everything I have seen here  and anywhere else.
    Here the VGA cards I have in my VGA table in my living room:

     
    Contents:
    2x EVGA GeForce GTX 295 Red Edition PCI-E 1792MB 896Bit GDDR3 US Models [in practical 2x 896MB 448Bit GDDR3] 2 of 500 made worldwide.
    3dfx Voodoo3 1000 AGP 16MB 128Bit SGR
    NVIDIA Geforce3 Ti-500 64MB 128Bit DDR PR2 Board
    Hercules 3D Prophet III AGP 64MB 128Bit DDR
    Gainward Geforce3 Power Pack!!! Golden Sample AGP 64MB 128Bit DDR
    ASUS ATi Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition AGP 256MB 256Bit GDDR3
    3dfx Voodoo3 3500C AGP 16MB 128Bit SDR + TV-Out
    Hercules 3D Prophet 9700 Pro 128MB 256Bit DDR Engineering Sample
    Dimaond Stealth III S540 Xtreme AGP 32MB 64Bit SDR Cherry Board Engineering Sample
    Diamond Viper II Z200 AGP 32MB 128Bit SDR
    Sapphire ATi Radeon X1950 XTX CrossFire Edition PCI-E 512MB 256Bit GDDR4
    Sapphire ATi Radeon X1900 XTX PCI-E 512MB 256Bit GDDR3
    EVGA e-GeForce 8800 Ultra Super Clocked Edition PCI-E 768 MB 384Bit GDDR3
    ATi Rage 128 Ultra AGP 32MB 64Bit SDR
    Quantum3D Obsidian2 X-24 PCI 24MB 384Bit EDO.
     
    It's that I just know when a VGA card is quality built or not and that could be any brand, NVIDIA just has failed to beat AMD when it comes to R9 290X , they have absolutely nothing that competes with it even price wise, it's just a pure fact, it's faster or as fast as a GTX 780 Ti with Cat 14.4 Beta but it's priced 70Euro cheaper than a normal GTX 780, good luck figuring that out ...
     
    NVIDIA had this when they had the GTX 295, they were master of all GTX 295 was it all, GTX 480, 580 & 680 were also very successful, the same their GeForce3, 4Ti & GeForce 6800 series were.
    ATI's best was their Radeon 9700 Pro which used the R300VPU, it outlasted NV's GeForce4 Ti4600, FX 5800 Ultra, FX 5900 Ultra & FX 5950Ultra, ATi Also had the Radeon 9800 Pro & 9800XT that followed which were improved R300's these used the R350 & R360 VPU's their X800XT PE suffered bad yeilds even that it's performance was on par with NV's 6800 Ultra, when NV released 6800 Ultra Extreme ATi came with X850 XT PE which again was on par with NVIDIA's card.
     
    NV came with GeForce 7800 series ATi with X1800XT, 7800 GTX was faster only ATI had the upper hand with the possibility of HDR + FSAA & AF being used all at the same time NV could use HDR + AF but not combine it with FSAA, ATI had the upepr hand here also image quality has always been better on ATi cards but Matrox always had the lead with best image quality.
    But yer I could go on ya know.
     
    Sorry for that, but I am very direct and to the point when I get addressed by such lame low quality inaccurate posts
    People like you shall never be faved by me... Fanboys erm .... sorry but I don't do those, wrong address
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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/21 07:45:12 (permalink)
    OK everyone. You can all post professionally and respect each others opinions. If the attitudes continue to flare up within this thread then it will be locked and/or warnings will go out.

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    Re: AMD R9 295X2 review @ [H] 2014/04/21 09:35:20 (permalink)
    Don't really care about your VGA table also dont care much about all the testing and stuff u do,all i am saying is a few people that post on these forums can be very irritating.
    If u do not have anything better to do than bash a companies product on there forum maybe u should find a new hobby,or post elsewhere. Just seems like a few of u are AMD fanbois and cover your butts by saying how many Nvidia producrts u have owned,all the while bashing all other products. 

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