Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/01 17:46:12
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lol, dude, donta was saying maxwell isn't fully dx12 capable because it's missing async support right? I was saying that async isn't required for a gpu to be considered fully dx12 capable as it's not a requirement to have async under dx12 specifications.
Yes its not required, but to work correctly, get the benefits DX12 provides and even DX12_1 it will need it to give you the consumer the best experience possible for your hard earned money and trust you put into them. That is the whole point. If you cannot use DX12 as intended might as well just play DX-DX11 because you are not getting one benefit out of it besides just able to play it. No performance boost, no extra assets/advanced shaders used, not an extra boost in FPS. Imagine if Maxwell had all the requirements to fully use it? It would be getting the same if not a little better or a little under AMD in properly coded DX12 game. We would had seen more DX12 games come out, the price wars would be in full swing, we as consumers would had won... but no nvidia wanted to not print that on their Maxwell line to save a few bucks at your expense as they have become complacent, greedy, and not really looking out for their customers, they plan on you buying pascal in the upcoming months, they know they can get away with being unethical with you and you will keep buying their cut down products. Why do you think I gave nvidia the bird and took my business over to the other side of the fence? You have seen how much I have been a fanboy over the years on these forums, even getting banned for being too much of a Nvidia fanboy in my younger years, as these forums got trolled by AMD fanboys, you missed my most epic of forums battles honestly ask someone who has been here since I joined. Luckily with age I put my money into the product that gives me the most, my way, exactly what I need/want, that I know I wont have to replace in 1-2 years. Nvidia unfortunately is not that company any longer, gameworks, no double precision, no logical processing cores in their regular geforce cards, forced to use the Geforce experience to get the latest drivers and game tweaks as they forced us to use bloatware. Even asking nvidia why should I buy a Titan X giving the reasons why I am shying away and asking them why should I buy it and they removed my question. You don't do that unless you have something to hide and are being unethical...
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/01 18:01:42
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lol, dude, donta was saying maxwell isn't fully dx12 capable because it's missing async support right? I was saying that async isn't required for a gpu to be considered fully dx12 capable as it's not a requirement to have async under dx12 specifications.
Imagine if Maxwell had all the requirements to fully use it?
That's just it... maxwell does have all the requirements as async isn't a requirement under dx12 specifications.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/01 18:16:44
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That's just it... maxwell does have all the requirements as async isn't a requirement under dx12 specifications.
If maxwell had all requirements to use DX12 properly it would be stomping all DX12 benchmarks, its lacking that shader support. The Titan X would be rocking in all DX12 games, it would also be rocking in Maya if it was the full complete chip as the original Titans. They didn't give you the customer what they promised yeah it can use DX12 but it wont use it properly that's why nvidia like I said is in a Rush to get Pascal out already, and its not like they didn't know. If you want to get just as good/better FPS in a properly DX12 or even DX12_1 game later you will have to go with Pascal since it will have the full shader support. They have used gameworks to bring down the performance of competition, and even looking at that one link I gave you nvidia is trying or is forcing companies/reviewers to do things that cripple the competition as much as possible to buy time to get people to keep buying their intentionally gimped gpu's and not the competitors. Go read that link again, how DX12 runs, and what is needed to get the full potential out of it. Its all in black and white.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/02 11:30:48
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That's just it... maxwell does have all the requirements as async isn't a requirement under dx12 specifications.
If maxwell had all requirements to use DX12 properly it would be stomping all DX12 benchmarks, its lacking that shader support. The Titan X would be rocking in all DX12 games, it would also be rocking in Maya if it was the full complete chip as the original Titans. They didn't give you the customer what they promised yeah it can use DX12 but it wont use it properly that's why nvidia like I said is in a Rush to get Pascal out already, and its not like they didn't know. If you want to get just as good/better FPS in a properly DX12 or even DX12_1 game later you will have to go with Pascal since it will have the full shader support. They have used gameworks to bring down the performance of competition, and even looking at that one link I gave you nvidia is trying or is forcing companies/reviewers to do things that cripple the competition as much as possible to buy time to get people to keep buying their intentionally gimped gpu's and not the competitors. Go read that link again, how DX12 runs, and what is needed to get the full potential out of it. Its all in black and white.
Under dx12 specification async isn't a requirement for a gpu to be considered fully dx12 capable.
 
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/02 11:35:18
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I ran the hitman benchmark yesterday with the same settings guru3d used and scored 63 fps average with one titan x at stock speeds @ 1440p using driver 364.51.  Only 6 fps away from the Fury X. Nothing a little overclocking can't fix. The game is new as well. We all know how the Fury X overclocks. ;) Looks like I got the Fury X from oc3d beat already... 
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/02 12:36:17
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Any game that's less than 5fps (even 10 for that matter) between AMD and Nvidia is no contest. It's a dead issue, and there leaves no room at all, period, to even argue about it. Whoever brings up a big deal about, I feel, they are wasting their time. However, if there is ever a game where AMD has a 20 FPS lead, then I will listen and keep quiet about it while they show the results.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/03 15:13:51
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Thats cute my min FPS is 80, max 204, average 120 at 1440p=) All on a 620 dollar card who could have imagined.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/03 15:18:31
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Thats cute my min FPS is 80, max 204, average 120 at 1440p=)
Not with a single card using the same settings guru3d is using.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/03 15:19:18
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Thats cute my min FPS is 80, max 204, average 120 at 1440p=)
Not with a single card using the same settings guru3d is using.
yup using the same settings guru3d is, using on a single card, game got patched today fyi. *correction* Some reason Ultra detail was not on. New Numbers Min: 68 Max: 178 Average: 103 at 1440p DX12 I dont even have a beast system. Just a Core I7 4770k on a Corsair H80i, 32gb DDR3 1600 ram, Gigabyte G1 Z87, XFX AMD R9 Fury X, Samsung EVO 850 500gb SSD, WD Vraptor 600gb, Some 1-3TB storage drives, Seasonic X750, Acer 27" Freesync Display. Have probably just under 1200 if that put into this system since I got most things on sale. Might want to look at http://www.tweaktown.com/...dex2.html?sf25493233=1
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/03 17:56:10
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Guess I'll need to retest since the game was patched today.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/03 18:02:17
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 More like 9% in hitman. The article was published two days ago when the game wasn't more up to date.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/03 18:24:25
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Does not matter without maxwell having that shader support it will run DX12 like it runs DX11, its not going to see the gains AMD does in each driver and game update in dx12 games. Doing some reading you will at least have acessabbility to DX12_1 tech as stated already with more eye candy it will come at a cost tanking your FPS more in DX12_1 over DX12. Where my card will not get the extra eye candy of DX12_1 but will have the tech to keep pumping out higher FPS. But it looks like even Pascal won't even have that shader support. http://wccftech.com/nvidi...-asynchronous-compute/If Polaris has DX12_1, between its double precision, logical processing cores it will be the clear winner in both FPS, Eye Candy. And not to mention like the original Titans will be the go to card for us developers that make the games like the Fury X & Radeon Pro Duo is now.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/03 18:30:44
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Thats cute my min FPS is 80, max 204, average 120 at 1440p=)
Not with a single card using the same settings guru3d is using.
yup using the same settings guru3d is, using on a single card, game got patched today fyi.
*correction*
Some reason Ultra detail was not on. New Numbers Min: 68 Max: 178 Average: 103 at 1440p DX12
I dont even have a beast system. Just a Core I7 4770k on a Corsair H80i, 32gb DDR3 1600 ram, Gigabyte G1 Z87, XFX AMD R9 Fury X, Samsung EVO 850 500gb SSD, WD Vraptor 600gb, Some 1-3TB storage drives, Seasonic X750, Acer 27" Freesync Display. Have probably just under 1200 if that put into this system since I got most things on sale.
Might want to look at http://www.tweaktown.com/...dex2.html?sf25493233=1
Donta, looking at your rig compare to Sajin's, your system alone, eventhough is outdated, beats Sajin's newer tech rig....just wow!  Sajin
More like 9% in hitman. The article was publised two days ago when the game wasn't more up to date.
Rerun your test dude, does not make a difference. Compare your tech specs with Donta's rig, that says it all  . You are looking this one sided once again, you are not looking the big/whole picture. Why dont you sell one of your Titans and buy a Fury, so you can see for yourself about what Donta is talking about.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/03 20:23:19
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Thats cute my min FPS is 80, max 204, average 120 at 1440p=)
Not with a single card using the same settings guru3d is using.
yup using the same settings guru3d is, using on a single card, game got patched today fyi.
*correction*
Some reason Ultra detail was not on. New Numbers Min: 68 Max: 178 Average: 103 at 1440p DX12
I dont even have a beast system. Just a Core I7 4770k on a Corsair H80i, 32gb DDR3 1600 ram, Gigabyte G1 Z87, XFX AMD R9 Fury X, Samsung EVO 850 500gb SSD, WD Vraptor 600gb, Some 1-3TB storage drives, Seasonic X750, Acer 27" Freesync Display. Have probably just under 1200 if that put into this system since I got most things on sale.
Might want to look at http://www.tweaktown.com/...dex2.html?sf25493233=1
Donta, looking at your rig compare to Sajin's, your system alone, eventhough is outdated, beats Sajin's newer tech rig....just wow!
Sajin
More like 9% in hitman. The article was publised two days ago when the game wasn't more up to date.
Rerun your test dude, does not make a difference. Compare your tech specs with Donta's rig, that says it all. You are looking this one sided once again, you are not looking the big/whole picture. Why dont you sell one of your Titans and buy a Fury, so you can see for yourself about what Donta is talking about.
The game was just patched... meaning performance increases for everyone.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/03 20:41:09
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While you may get a small one, AMD gets a bigger boost with the full shader support. Just like your CPU crushes mine in any bench since you have more cores. AMD gets more than one lane for multi tasking rendering traffic, where nvidia only gets a single lane road access.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/03 20:58:52
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While you may get a small one, AMD gets a bigger boost with the full shader support. Just like your CPU crushes mine in any bench since you have more cores. AMD gets more than one lane for multi tasking rendering traffic, where nvidia only gets a single lane road access.
Yes, I know that. Before the game update that was released today Fury X was doing 56 to 69 fps averages. Titan X was doing 60 - 63 fps averages. Now you're claiming Fury X is getting 103 fps average from just a patch that was released today.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/03 21:23:55
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Yeah but before the patch my average on the bench was 74-87 depending on Crimson driver and game update.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/03 22:26:45
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Yeah but before the patch my average on the bench was 74-87 depending on Crimson driver and game update.
Was your gpu overclocked? Guru3d scored 69 fps average with a 5960x @ 4.4 on driver 16.4.2 with the Fury X at stock before the game patch today. Guru3d scored 60 for a titan x before the patch today. I scored 63 on my titan x before the patch today.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/03 22:48:27
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Guru3d system: 5960x @ 4.4GHz, driver 16.4.2 & driver 364.72. Your system: 4770k @ stock?, driver 16.4.2? My system: 5960x @ 4.4GHz, driver 364.51. Guru3d Fury X average before game patch today: 69 Your claimed Fury X average before game patch today: 74-87 Your claimed Fury X average after game patch today: 103 Guru3d Titan X average before game patch today: 60 My claimed Titan X average before game patch today: 63 My claimed Titan X average after game patch today: 63 Nothing changed on my end. Mind taking a video and proving you're getting 103 average because I don't believe it one bit.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/04 01:00:35
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Here is my hitman 2016 benchmark run on driver 365.10 with my titan x at stock. Skip to end of video if you want to see the numbers.
Make a video just like this one to prove your 103 average.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/04 04:19:24
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Honestly I think competition is a good thing for us all...and I don't care HOW AMD fares
I will ALWAYS buy eVGA and NV...I do not like ATi/AMD. never have, never will.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/04 06:42:01
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More like 9% in hitman. The article was published two days ago when the game wasn't more up to date.
Those look to be cherry picked titles, and are those not all made with AMD technology, and not Nvidia? THat would make a difference completely.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/04 09:44:06
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The thing is you cannot optimize for a GPU to make it magically grow the shader support that was not printed on it to begin with, you can let it use it, but it runs not so great, like an engine that requires premium gas only and you toss in unleaded, or my example of racing in the Indy 500 and the mechanic didn't put in all cylinders. Maxwell does not have the shader backbone to fully utilize DX12 nor DX12_1 it will be able to run both yes, but use it as intended no, and no amount of optimizations will change that unless you want it to have the lower poly counts, less assets on screen as DX11, then you might as well just use DX11. DX12 is progress to we as gamers, allows more of everything, more complex things capable of happening since more of the hardware is being utilized as long as it makes that requirement set forth by those who made the API. Maxwell does not make that requirement it will use it but never use the new API's as intended just for the simple fact NVIDIA didn't include the tech needed to do so. He is right you are trolling, or have the IQ of a rock, or just want to remain ignorant to the facts to try and justify what you bought even though deep down its not going to deliver/perform as advertised in the next generation of games being the top GPU on the planet.
AMD is far from Junk, it does what is advertised, and does everything a Titan X and 980 TI cannot.
And the Fury X is going to be the top gpu in the next gen games? lol. nope. It will be AMD/Nvidia's newer cards. Your Fury X can't beat 980 TI/Titan X in majority of DX11 titles. 
I think the FuryX was made to show off what AMD will be doing with HBM, DX12, and VR. Yes its only 4GB but that 4GB of HBM kicks butt and DX12 doesnt see 4+4=4 if using two cards, it will see 4+4=8. Also looking at its benchmarks it wasn't made for 1080 games, but 1440 and 4k. Its a really cool product, but its not for everyone. So to bash it kind of shows the bashers ignorance and lack of understanding on the tech to come and to praise it as a end all card is stupid too.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/04 10:06:03
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So AMD wins benchmarks for a select few bad console ports nobody should be playing.
Obviously a winning strategy over at team red.
 Not my fault if you're offended.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/04 10:12:38
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Yes its only 4GB but that 4GB of HBM kicks butt and DX12 doesnt see 4+4=4 if using two cards, it will see 4+4=8.
We have yet to see that happening.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/04 10:34:42
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/04 10:58:08
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It's obvious for now that AMD Radeon work better under new DX12.
We will see what will happen when GP100 show up. I expect to NVIDIA offer better performance for 5% than premium AMD chip.
But we will see price, if NVIDIA start to ask 1100-1200$ for 5% stronger AMD 700$ than I think many customers will abandon NVIDIA.
Biggest problem is because NVIDIA start to overprice their cards too much and people have illusion that they are much better than AMD and now they are shocked with news. Everything was be different before few years, price would be similar, but no one is guilty if people who made huge hype for GeForce suddenly become angry because their cards are slower.
They increase price of GeForce, not NVIDIA. If NVIDIA sell 20 cards first week than price will be normal.
And TITAN X will cost 50-100$ more than Fury X. Why not... more memory but not HBM, little stronger chip but weaker under DX12.
But people pay for GeForce as unbeatable beast in all environment 40% stronger than competition in any situation with perfect driver.
In reality price is like that but situation and performance are far from that.
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/04 18:20:58
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Yes its only 4GB but that 4GB of HBM kicks butt and DX12 doesnt see 4+4=4 if using two cards, it will see 4+4=8.
We have yet to see that happening.
"it will"
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Re: AMD Polaris 10 "Ellesmere" as Fast as GTX 980 Ti: Rumor
2016/05/04 18:34:44
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Yes its only 4GB but that 4GB of HBM kicks butt and DX12 doesnt see 4+4=4 if using two cards, it will see 4+4=8.
We have yet to see that happening.
"it will"
And that's what everybody is waiting on, and that's what most people keep saying.
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