Having just upgraded from my old 680 to a new EVGA GTX 680 FTW I revisited a question I had back in the day and never got an answer for.
 
We now have the new chip and architecture that allows us to go faster and cooler and there are plenty of Benchmarks out there all pinning their scores on FPS in various games.
 
My question is simple if the majority of monitors have a refresh rate of 60Hz do users know that they won't get a true FPS above 60FPS due to the limitations of the monitor? and that they are better to have V-Sync on!
 
And please if I am wrong tell me so
 
David
 

bsmegreg
I'm confused if you bought a 680 FTW or a 980 FTW... If you clarify that would help. Also, I don't really see what you are asking about...

His sig says 980 FTW, so I would think its a typo.

bsmegreg
I'm confused if you bought a 680 FTW or a 980 FTW... If you clarify that would help. Also, I don't really see what you are asking about...

"Having just upgraded from my old 680" don't know how else I could have said it! and yes why get a 200 FPS capable card when the end of the pipe (monitor) only runs at 60 - 144 FPS?
 
David

djmorgan
" Having just upgraded from my old 680 " don't know how else I could have said it! and yes why get a 200 FPS capable card when the end of the pipe (monitor) only runs at 60 - 144 FPS?
 
David

djmorgan
Having just upgraded from my old 680 to a new EVGA GTX 680 FTW

I actually laughed out loud. DjMorgan, you wrote Having just upgraded from my old 680 to a new EVGA GTX 680Ftw, hence why bsmegreg said he was sure if you upgraded to a 680ftw or a 980ftw. Proof reading saves questions, lol.

As far as refresh rate, no matter what fps you push, if your monitor caps at 30, 60, 90, 120, 144 or 240hz, it can NOT display above the monitors refresh rate. It's impossible. Eizo is coming out with a 240hz monitor for 499/599 for extreme gaming, but that has been on the fence for a long time.

It's like trying to push 4k out of a 1080p monitor, it's still 1080p you are seeing, the lines just look cleaner.

Scarlet-Tech

djmorgan
" Having just upgraded from my old 680 " don't know how else I could have said it! and yes why get a 200 FPS capable card when the end of the pipe (monitor) only runs at 60 - 144 FPS?
 
David

djmorgan
Having just upgraded from my old 680 to a new EVGA GTX 680 FTW

I actually laughed out loud. DjMorgan, you wrote Having just upgraded from my old 680 to a new EVGA GTX 680Ftw, hence why bsmegreg said he was sure if you upgraded to a 680ftw or a 980ftw. Proof reading saves questions, lol.

As far as refresh rate, no matter what fps you push, if your monitor caps at 30, 60, 90, 120, 144 or 240hz, it can NOT display above the monitors refresh rate. It's impossible. Eizo is coming out with a 240hz monitor for 499/599 for extreme gaming, but that has been on the fence for a long time.

It's like trying to push 4k out of a 1080p monitor, it's still 1080p you are seeing, the lines just look cleaner.

Yes my bad and poor proof reading skills, of course I meant my new GTX 980
 
 

djmorgan
Yes my bad and poor proof reading skills, of course I meant my new GTX 980

We know, it was just amusing. I use a phone and 95% of the time autocorrect catches me off guard, so I have to edit my posts.

The eyes and brain only seeing 45 fps at max is very incorrect. If you play on a 120hz monitor, you will notice less tearing and other screen defects than if you play on 60hz. The eyes aren't limited to a refresh rate, but the wait the brain processes information may be dependant on age and other factors. Professional gamers rarely use lower hz monitors, because they need to be able to see the information on screen as quickly and clearly as possible. If they are limited to have 60fps they can't get the information as quick, so many play on 120+ hz monitors.

The fluidity of a game also improves over 60hz. Having a game that plays at 90fps on a 120hz monitor will prove to be smoother than playing on a 60hz, just because it isn't trying to display mutliple frames at a time over the top of each other.

There is proof over all that the higher end faster monitors are worth their weight in gold, especially to gamers that use them at their limits.

Simply put, the eye and brain are not limited to a refresh rate. The brain may be limited to what it processes, but not a refresh rate.

ARMYguy
I can easily see the difference between how games look between 60 hz and 120 hz. It gets almost impossible for me to tell the difference between 120 hz and 144 hz though. Of course this is all a mute point for me now, since i have a g sync monitor and you won't ever tell the difference since its all perfectly smooth from 40 to 50 fps, up to the cap of 144 hz of the LCD. Still did not stop me from going 2x titan x. I want to keep my fps at the 144 fps cap at all times if possible.

G-Sync at 60 FPS is very different from G-Sync at 60+ FPS, just as any old monitor is. I felt that G-Sync only improved my experience in the 40-60 FPS range. At 120+ FPS/Hz, it is very hard to notice tearing anyway.

djmorgan
Having just upgraded from my old 680 to a new EVGA GTX 680 FTW I revisited a question I had back in the day and never got an answer for.
 
We now have the new chip and architecture that allows us to go faster and cooler and there are plenty of Benchmarks out there all pinning their scores on FPS in various games.
 
My question is simple if the majority of monitors have a refresh rate of 60Hz do users know that they won't get a true FPS above 60FPS due to the limitations of the monitor? and that they are better to have V-Sync on!
 
And please if I am wrong tell me so
 
David
 

 No He wrote it Perfectly & explained it with clarity of written words. Sometime folks are in such hurry to be 1st to give answer they just assume what they read is wrong. Like some of them told u most Monitors & TV's are 60 hz Now some latest Models are 120Hz & Up meaning if u got cash for such advance ones u can get higher fps. Have a Good day

And to make my position clear I think there are many other factors for buying new video cards other than chasing the mythical FPS score, I just find it annoying that most tech review sites drag out the bar graphs showing the FPS score of one card against another without explanation 'normally' you won't get anywhere near that figure.
 
But yes just about to try 24" 144Hz monitor
 
David

Yeah I said I can't play with v-sync on most games because of input lag. That will get you killed on multiplayer games.