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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/28 14:00:47
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bobc36
What arguments are you guys using? 8101s have been coming sparingly on my machines.
me just -bigbeta -smp
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/28 14:31:05
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me just -smp 48 -bigadv -verbosity 9
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/29 02:37:54
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^^^^^^
dito
only not as many cores
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/29 03:17:31
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You don't have to put any numbers behind -smp unless you want to run less core than you have.
It will use all cores with -smp
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/29 03:18:27
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lol ok ,I did read it in [H] and thats why its in there
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/29 08:29:32
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Hmm must be the luck of the draw. Since the 810x have been released, Ive been seeing much less of the 8101
My arguments are -smp -bigbeta as well so who knows
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/29 10:01:44
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Just picked up an 8101 so they are still out there - sadly
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/29 10:45:51
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Horvat
You don't want an 8105. The PPD is lower than an 8101.
It is around the ppd of a 8103.
Negative on that. On the same server the 8101's generate around 10,000 more PPD than the 8105's.
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/29 12:32:19
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You don't want an 8105. The PPD is lower than an 8101.
It is around the ppd of a 8103.
Negative on that. On the same server the 8101's generate around 10,000 more PPD than the 8105's.
Doesn't work that way for me. Both systems are the same. That's about 54k more ppd on the 8105. 
post edited by Brother John - 2013/04/29 12:37:25
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/29 13:09:11
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I've been chewing on one since I flagged the bigadv after testing with SMP. I thought.... Really? Isn't this like Deja Vu again?
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/29 13:33:45
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Hafta agree with Bro John on his assessment of the 8105s.
PPD of an 8105 on my dedicated 4P Folding rig (6180s @2.5GHz) is much better than any 8101. 8101s are the worst performing PPD of all the Bigadvs for me. They have the longest TPFs and overall completion time of all the 810x Bigadvs.
All figures below are actual from all 100 frames processed.
8101:
PPD = 375,790
8105:
PPD = 605,331
8103:
PPD = 619,692
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/29 14:09:12
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I've said all along that they need to adjust 8101 to the new standard of the rest of these bigadv work units. Make more since to adjust one than try to adjust four to match 8101. Heck they seem to have trouble getting the number to match every time something new comes out. One time its way to high next time its way to low, you would think as long as they been doing this and do a pre test they know by now. I'm no number wiz but it only seem by looking at another project TPF and then matching the new project "if its TPF is about the same" as close as you can "with a point value" would be a simple and close way to get some numbers that would closely match the new project. Sometimes I think people are to smart, and then make it more complexed than it need be. They forget there is a simple/easier way to do things
post edited by TheWolf - 2013/04/29 14:23:15
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/29 15:05:14
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Horvat
Brother John
Horvat
You don't want an 8105. The PPD is lower than an 8101.
It is around the ppd of a 8103.
Negative on that. On the same server the 8101's generate around 10,000 more PPD than the 8105's.
Points != PPD
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/29 22:08:54
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/30 04:53:30
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Good stuff Zagen and thanks for the link!
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/30 21:31:32
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Horvat
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Horvat
You don't want an 8105. The PPD is lower than an 8101.
It is around the ppd of a 8103.
Negative on that. On the same server the 8101's generate around 10,000 more PPD than the 8105's.
Could this be a Intel vs AMD architecture difference. Project 8101 Name: Amd 6172 2.1Ghz (2P) Avg. Time / Frame : 00:28:49 - 112,291 PPD Project 8105 Name: Amd 6172 2.1Ghz (2P) Avg. Time / Frame : 00:21:21 - 171,966 PPD
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/04/30 21:42:45
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It's not. There is no computer where 8105 PPD is lower than 8101.
Horvat is either comparing points, not PPD (my guess), or is using HFM and has not downloaded new points data.
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/05/01 13:27:42
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I'm showing 357377.8 for 8105 credit in HFM on the 4x6172 @ 2520 mhz with a 10:52 TPF for 473580.4 PPD. It's a far cry from the nasty 8101's.
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/05/03 18:55:48
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Nope PPD. I currently do not have a snap shot to show. The only 8105 I have right now in on my X5690 server and that would not be a fair comparison to one of my X5670 rigs running an 8101.
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/05/04 12:43:53
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I have now completed two of these, and pleased to do them  Name: 4P Folder Path: \\JOHNERZ-H8QG6\fah\ Number of Frames Observed: 210 Min. Time / Frame : 00:11:43 - 422,992.2 PPD Avg. Time / Frame : 00:11:48 - 418,519.1 PPD
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Re:8105 bigadv
2013/05/04 13:09:52
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Project ID: 8105 Value: 22606 Name: H8QGi+F 4P Number of Frames Observed: 93 Min. Time / Frame : 00:12:59 - 362,626.0 PPD Avg. Time / Frame : 00:13:46 - 332,120.2 PPD VS Project ID: 8101 Value: 22607 Name: H8QGi+F 4P Number of Frames Observed: 300 Min. Time / Frame : 00:18:44 - 214,234.5 PPD Avg. Time / Frame : 00:19:13 - 206,203.0 PPD VS Project ID: 8104 Value: 17153 Name: H8QGi+F 4P Number of Frames Observed: 28 Min. Time / Frame : 00:10:34 - 334,212.4 PPD Avg. Time / Frame : 00:10:37 - 331,854.1 PPD Edit: add 8104 TPF/PPD
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