Hello all,

I'm trying to figure out how to run UHD at 60Hz from my PC to a Samsung HU8500 (HU9000 in US I think) which supports UHD 60Hz via Hdmi 2.0.

My pc contains two EVGA 780ti sc's which support UHD 60Hz with DisplayPort 1.2.

How can the Tv and PC run together at UHD 60Hz please?
I see a couple of options maybe...
Could I get a DP 1.2 - HDMI 2.0 active converter?
Something like a Dual HDMI 1.4 to HDMI 2.0?
DVI single/dual to HDMI 2.0?
or some kind of MST?
... open to suggestions :).
Could you share as much information as possible please?

If the advice is to ditch my 780s, it's not going to be an option unfortunately due to the extra cost and existing water cooling and budget.

Many thanks,
Alan :)

 
Hello all,
Apparently there's no top end users here? I find it strange that no one in a whole month has an idea of what I'm talking about? Is my post not clear?
 
I've spoken with EVGA support and can confirm that the GTX 780 ti sc can support UHD @ 60hz via displayport 1.2. The 780 ti sc's are not old cards, Geforce said the 780's can run UHD @ 60hz, confirmed by EVGA.
 
They also confirmed that there are cables on the market that will provide the necessary connection. They said they couldn't tell me which cable though or who makes it as it's not directly from EVGA... Where's the blasted cable then??
 
My opinion is I've bought two top of the range cards less than a year ago in 2014 and wish to use it for the reason I'd bought them. Sounds complicated? No?
 
I'm getting tired of a clear lack of responsibility between the high tech firms to ensure us customers can use their top line devices - cards and TV's. It's like buying a ridiculously expensive rocket car that will do 700mph, without the rocket! I've apparently got a basic run of the mill motor but paid a fortune for something that can’t be used on the road. What's going on!? Is this a sick joke? I'm not laughing at all. This is more like day light robbery and false advertising. I hope there's some obscure solution that I've been waiting for since starting this query in December...
 
 Speak up please guys/gals

OK, take a breath and relax.  I understand your frustrated.  Possible reason for the low response to your Post is the title does not really grab my attention.
 
As I am considering SLI w/ 780 Ti KingPins, I just happened onto your post today.
 
A)  Frozen CPU turned up this adapter.  Check this out:http://www.frozencpu.com      part# hdmi-08,  $19.99  DisplayPort DP To HDMI Female Cable Adapter w/ Audio (v1.1 10.8Gbp)      
http://www.frozencpu.com/...l?tl=g2c279s1683#blank
 
B)  NewEgg search gave many options.    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=DisplayPort+1.2+to+HDMI+2.0+active+converter&N=-1&isNodeId=1
 
C) Good read    http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2258794/powering-hdmi-devices-mini-gpu.html
 
D) http://www.hardwareheaven.com/community/threads/displayport-1-2-to-hdmi-2.228446/
 
Hope this helps.  Keep us up to date.
 
#1 issue: Samsung TV does NOT support DisplayPort.
 
Samsung manual - connections http://downloadcenter.sam...US%5DNUATSCH-1.117.pdf
 
Connecting to a Computer
You can connect a computer directly to the TV using an HDMI or DVI to HDMI cable and use the TV as
a monitor. You can also connect the TV to a computer via your home network and access media files
saved on the computer on the TV screen. The kinds of connections you can make are listed below.
To use the TV as a Computer Monitor

●
Connect through the HDMI Port using an HDMI cable.
You can connect the computer to the TV using an HDMI cable and display the computer screen
on the TV.
●
Connect though the HDMI (DVI) port using a DVI to HDMI cable.
You can connect a computer to the TV by connecting the computer's DVI port to the TV's HDMI
(DVI) port with a DVI to HDMI cable and display the computer screen on the TV.
To Access Media Files on a Computer and View or Play Them on the TV
●
Connect Through Samsung Link.
Quickly access photo, video, and music files saved on a computer on which Samsung Link
software is installed, even if you do not connect the TV directly to the computer.
●
Connect Through DLNA Using Your Home Network.
Quickly access photo, video, and music files saved on a computer by connecting the TV and the
computer to the same router or AP.
●
Connecting via
Samsung Smart View 2.0
"
Availability depends on the model.
By installing and running the
Smart View 2.0
on the PC, you can view the TV screen on the PC,
or play the multimedia content (videos, photos, and music) saved on the PC. Also, you can enter
text on your Smart TV using the keyboard connected to your PC. You can also control the TV
from the PC
 
Connecting Through the HDMI Port
For an HDMI connection, we recommend one of the following HDMI cable types:
●
High-Speed HDMI Cable
●
High-Speed HDMI Cable with Ethernet
"
Use an HDMI cable with a thickness of 0.55 inches (14mm) or less. Using a non-certified HDMI cable may
result in a blank screen or a connection error.
"
Some HDMI cables and devices may not be compatible with the TV due to different HDMI specifications.
"
This TV does not support HDMI Ethernet Channel. Ethernet is a LAN (Local Area Network) built on coaxial
cables standardized by the IEEE.
"
Many computer graphics adaptors do not have HDMI ports, but have DVI ports instead. If your computer
graphics adaptor has a DVI port, use a DVI to HDMI cable to connect the computer to the TV. For more
information, refer to "
Connecting With a DVI to HDMI Cable
".
"
Try a cable shorter than 3M to get the next best UHD viewing quality.
"
HDCP 2.2 is supported only by the TV's HDMI (MHL) port. HDCP is short for "High bandwidth Digital
Content Protection" and is used for video copyright protection.
Refer to the diagram and connect an HDMI cable to the computer's HDMI output connector and the
TV's HDMI input connector.
"
The number of ports, and their names and locations may vary depending on the model
 
16
17
Connecting With a DVI to HDMI Cable
If the graphics adapter of your computer does not support the HDMI interface, connect the computer
to the TV with a DVI (Digital Visual Interactive) to HDMI cable. Note that the DVI to HDMI connection
is only supported by the HDMI (DVI) port and does not support audio signal transmission. To listen to
the computer sound, connect external speakers to the computer’s audio output connector.
"
For the resolutions supported by the TV, refer to "
Read Before Connecting a Computer (Supported
Resolutions)
".
Refer to the diagram and connect the DVI to HDMI cable to the TV's HDMI (DVI) port and the
computer's DVI output port.
 
 
 

This explains a lot of the technical issue:http://www.geeks3d.com/20141202/tested-geforce-gtx-970-and-4k-60hz-on-hdmi-2-0/
 
 
As you can see, 4k @ 60Hz requires 12Gbits/sec so only HDMI 2.0 or DisplayPort 1.2 (and higher) can offer such a bandwidth. In 2014 and 2015, all new graphics cards should support HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.2 and all new TV screens should have HDM 2.0 inputs. Otherwise it’s a… rip-off!
I recently received this GTX 970 from MSI and one of the first test I instantly did (after installing latest R344.75) is to connect it to the LG 49UB850V. It worked like a charm:
(Tested) GeForce GTX 970 and 4k @ 60Hz on HDMI 2.0


 


GeForce GTX 980/970 are great graphics cards and one of the cool features is the support of HDMI 2.0. Why HDMI 2.0 is cool? Because it allows to have an insane 3840×2160 resolution at 60Hz on a 4K TV. That’s a crazy experience to work on a 49-inch monitor with a 4k resolution at 60Hz!
To display a 4k resolution at 60Hz, the video interface (HDMI, DisplayPort) needs to transfert 12Gbits/second of data:
– bit_per_channel = 8
– num_channels = 3 (RGB)
– resolution = 3840 * 2160
– 60Hz = 60 times per second
– bandwidth = 3840 * 2160 * 8 * 3 * 60
– bandwidth 4k@60Hz = 11.94 Gbits/sec
– bandwidth 4k@30Hz = 5.97 Gbits/sec


Here is a quick recap of HDMI and DisplayPort (DP) bandwidths:

• HDMI 1.2: up to 4.95 Gbits/sec
• HDMI 1.4: up to 10.2 Gbits/sec
• HDMI 2.0: up to 18.0 Gbits/sec
• DisplayPort 1.2: 17.28 Gbit/sec
• DisplayPort 1.3: 32.4 Gbit/sec

As you can see, 4k @ 60Hz requires 12Gbits/sec so only HDMI 2.0 or DisplayPort 1.2 (and higher) can offer such a bandwidth. In 2014 and 2015, all new graphics cards should support HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.2 and all new TV screens should have HDM 2.0 inputs. Otherwise it’s a… rip-off!
I recently received this GTX 970 from MSI and one of the first test I instantly did (after installing latest R344.75) is to connect it to the LG 49UB850V. It worked like a charm:
 
 

SO after poking around with several searches it seems you are not alone with this problem.  Short answer no solution at this time unless you change: to a monitor or upgrade the video card to a EVGA 970 or 980
 
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/26-home-theater-computers/1790498-display-port-hdmi-2-0-adapter-2160p-60hz.html
exerpt:
 

Update to Samsung information: Look at PAGE 224 - 226 in the PDF that I first linked to above.  Go to page 226 and review HDMI
 
NOTE:  I did not see you mention the specific screen size of your monitor; I referenced the UN50HU8500FXZA;
HU8500 50 inch screen [ENG-US]NUATSCH-1.117.pdf
 
Exert:  page 224
Read Before Connecting a Computer (SupportedResolutions)
When you connect your TV to a computer, set the computer's video card to one of the standard
resolutions listed in the tables below or on the next page. The TV will automatically adjust to the
resolution you choose. Note that the optimal and recommended resolution is 1920 x1080.
Choosing a resolution not included in the tables can result in a blank screen or just the power indicator
turning on.
Refer to the user manual of your graphics card for compatible resolutions.
 
Exert:  page 226
 

I have contacted the following manufactures:
Roswell and Tripp Lite customer service to inquire if they now make / will soon make / will custom make this cable.
 
Will post the results of their technical support teams.

alan_thomas_smith

Cool GTX
Update to Samsung information: Look at PAGE 224 - 226 in the PDF that I first linked to above.  Go to page 226 and review HDMI
 
NOTE:  I did not see you mention the specific screen size of your monitor; I referenced the UN50HU8500FXZA;
HU8500 50 inch screen [ENG-US]NUATSCH-1.117.pdf
 
Exert:  page 224
Read Before Connecting a Computer (SupportedResolutions) When you connect your TV to a computer, set the computer's video card to one of the standard resolutions listed in the tables below or on the next page. The TV will automatically adjust to the resolution you choose. Note that the optimal and recommended resolution is 1920 x1080. Choosing a resolution not included in the tables can result in a blank screen or just the power indicator turning on. Refer to the user manual of your graphics card for compatible resolutions.
Exert:  page 226

 
Yes cheers, I did look through the manual last night (as per your post). I saw that table too and found it interesting regarding the MHz that each resolution needs.
 
It looks like I will need to wait for a DP / HDMI 2.0 cable. I'm still a bit confused as to why EVGA Tech support told me that there are these cables already on the market. There are countless people, all struggling with the same issue, but no companies willing to invest a small amount of money. Logically if a company sorts this out (or has) then they've got the entire market. Despite the small user base, there's almost the entire international UHD customers that they can market their products at!
 

Cool GTX
 
 
 
Nice specification DP / HDMI cabel.  28ga wire and triple shield though it does NOT say HDMI 2.0 or 4K; the specs look good though it will be kind of stiff, large conductors are indeed better.

 
Cheers buddy. I might just have to use a cable like this high quality standard DP to HDMI 1.4 for the time being. I've seen a few of these around on the hunting missions!
 

Cool GTX
I have contacted the following manufactures:
Roswell and Tripp Lite customer service to inquire if they now make / will soon make / will custom make this cable.
 
Will post the results of their technical support teams.

 
Nice one, cheers Cool GTX,
 
I've contacted EVGA, Belkin and Aria.
EVGA said there's cables available from 'somewhere'
Belkin - was speaking to tech support but they haven't replied in 1.5 days - guessing they don't make a cable for the job
Aria - recommended by a colleague but due to everything so far, I'm not hopefully to be honest.
 
Fingers crossed for all of us aye!

There isn't an 'official' HDMI 2.0 cable. All you need is a HDMI cat 2 Highspeed certified to run at 18gbps. Philips makes them for example and you can buy them at Walmart.

Cool GTX
HeavyHemi,
Do you have a link to a DisplayPort ver 1.2 to HDMI ver 2.0 that is 4K (3480X2160 @60Hz)? 
 
Or can you provide a manufacturer and part number of said part? 
 
If you do please share it; as that is the issue being discussed. 
 
The ones being found are only rated at 1080p in my search.
 
In regard to "isn't an officisl HDMI 2.0 cable".  Yes I am quite aware of the specifications and more important the statements on HDMI.ORG.
 
Specifically, that users should disregard reference to a given HDMI version and instead focus on certified capabilities of the cable in question.
 
Terms like 4K and HDMI 2.0 are being bantered about by marketing people that do not seem to truly understand the technical specification that those term are supposed to apply to. 
 
They (DP v1.2, 4K and HDMI 2.0) are indeed "Design Standards" and NOT "Performance Standards". 
 
As an Engineer, I reject their reality that they are not misrepresenting their product to the consumer.

Check here:
 
http://www.bizlinktech.com/industries/list-sub.aspx?Type=100&CId=1

RainStryke
I went ahead and got me a 4K TV as well. I've been trying to figure out the same thing. I'm actually running a R9 290X, but i've been doing a lot of research on this for the last few days. My Vizio P series 4K TV has 1 port on the back that says "4K @ 60Hz." The first thing I did when I got my TV hooked up... was run my DVI to HDMI cable to it. It wouldn't run any higher than 1080p. I found another HDMI to HDMI cable (No clue if it's 1.3 or 1.4...) and my AMD catalyst center is showing 4096x2160 @ 120Hz and so is Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare when I get into the video settings. The problem is... I can still see a lot of screen tearing in the game like i'm running @ 30Hz.
 
I researched on how other people were getting 60Hz and as of recently, it was a TV firmware issue on my Vizio display. They corrected it... sure enough, last night when I got home, I saw the new firmware update hit... But nothing changed for me, it was still showing 2160p @ 120Hz. Of course, my single R9 290X can't handle 2160p gaming, so I backed it down to 1440p the night before the firmware and it was butter smooth. After this firmware update, Call of Duty won't run 1440p without a huge 4 inch black boarder around it now.
 
I figured maybe I needed some new cables... I went up to Best Buy and asked where the HDMI 2.0 cables were. I was advised there is no such thing as HDMI 2.0... I decided to look into it on my phone while I was there... HDMI 2.0 was a speculated thing, it's not used officially by any brand... They just have a new catagory of HDMI that has ethernet, which is what people are calling "HDMI 2.0." While I was up at Best Buy I checked out what they had and expected to maybe find what I wanted on Amazon for cheaper and hopefully they would price match.
 
This is what i've found:
http://www.monsterproducts.com/Black_Platinum_Ultimate_High_Speed_HDMI_Cable_with_Ethernet_and_Performance_Indicator
 
It's the only cable out there that lays claim to 60Hz @ 4K with a transfer rate of 27Gbps. I have no intention on spending $100 on a HDMI cable, but it's really got me wondering, since others have gotten it to work. I have no factual information on if it actually alleviates the 60Hz issue or not. I have read on a few forums of people getting my TV to 60Hz @ 4K, but nothing on their hardware to achieve the goal. I'm tempted to just buy it and return it if it does not fix my issue.
 
Anyway... that's pretty much all i've got. Hope that helps in some way.

The Cat 2 HDMI 18Gbps cables will support 2160p at 60hz.

Cool GTX
Thanks for some additional information fellow EVGA members. (HeavyHemi  & RainStryke)
 
However the previous posts do not address the issue at hand; or I really missed something.
 
***DisplayPort to DisplayPort*** support of 4K (3480X2160 @60Hz) = Easy to do, many solutions!
 
***HDMI to HDMI*** support of 4K (3480X2160 @60Hz) = Easy to do, many solutions!
 
***DisplayPort to HDMI*** that is 4K (3480X2160 @60Hz)= Certified Solution Sought and STILL Eluding capture.  
 
Bizlink does not yet offer this best I could find off of the link provided. 
 
The "DisplayPort to HDMI(297MHz) Dongle" that it shows on you link appears to be "vaporware".
 
What the link does lead to, I found this item as the best currently available - and it too comes up short.
http://www.accellcables.c...dmi-1-4-active-adapter
 
exert: "This active adapter supports resolutions of up to 4K Ultra HD (4096 x 2160 @24/30 Hz, 24 bits/pixel), WQXGA (2560 x 1600 @60 Hz, 24 bits/pixel), stereoscopic 3D and requires no external power*."  & "Supports up to 4K Ultra HD and 2560x1600 @60Hz"

 
Please consider the issue we as a group are trying to solve in your posts. 
We want a product or combination of products that the company states:
tested to support 3480X2160 @ 60Hz (or better).
 
 
Here is the link to the HDMI.ORG site and FAQ for HDMI 2.0  http://www.hdmi.org/manuf.../hdmi_2_0_faq.aspx#146
 
 
The solution requested in the original post is for a 3480X2160 @ a minimum of 60Hz; DisplayPort to HDMI cable or adapter. (Note from CoolGTX: this is a different way to look at the request 2160p @ 60Hz)
 

Seriously there is no need for the billboard style formatting. It is distracting. Currently there does not appear to be a released product on the market that will accomplish exactly what you're after. EVGA isn't likely to make one, so it is up to other manufacturers. Given the current tiny market segment it might be awhile.

Cool GTX
HeavyHemi,
 
I have edited the font on my posts; and I apologize. (per your billboard comment)
 
If billboard referrers to the color I used for clarity, so those that glance at the post do not misunderstand the problem. - I'll take that lesson forward in my posts.
 
I agree with your comment "Currently there does not appear to be a released product on the market that will accomplish exactly what you're after."  That is after all why the post was started by "Alan".  I do not need the HDMI to DisplayPort cable for 2160p being discussed; I was seeking to help a fellow EVGA form member.

No problem. There's nothing wrong with using bold or highlighting judiciously.  I'd like to see 4K consumer flat panel displays be a bit quicker to adopt to the direction the consumer is going in being able to connect PC's to them. They are seriously lagging. It isn't as if the tech doesn't already exist.

There is a problem judging by the 'type' parts in the listings for different lengths:
The 6ft shows DP to HDMI but the 3ft & 10ft only show "HDMI @ 18Gbps" (no mention of displayport anywhere).

I'd be looking for the 3 metre / 10ft length from pc to tv. Have I seen that right?

Cheers,
Alan
... Asked the question on Newegg

alan_thomas_smith
 
Hello all,
Apparently there's no top end users here? I find it strange that no one in a whole month has an idea of what I'm talking about? Is my post not clear?
 
I've spoken with EVGA support and can confirm that the GTX 780 ti sc can support UHD @ 60hz via displayport 1.2. The 780 ti sc's are not old cards, Geforce said the 780's can run UHD @ 60hz, confirmed by EVGA.
 
They also confirmed that there are cables on the market that will provide the necessary connection. They said they couldn't tell me which cable though or who makes it as it's not directly from EVGA... Where's the blasted cable then??
 
My opinion is I've bought two top of the range cards less than a year ago in 2014 and wish to use it for the reason I'd bought them. Sounds complicated? No?
 
I'm getting tired of a clear lack of responsibility between the high tech firms to ensure us customers can use their top line devices - cards and TV's. It's like buying a ridiculously expensive rocket car that will do 700mph, without the rocket! I've apparently got a basic run of the mill motor but paid a fortune for something that can’t be used on the road. What's going on!? Is this a sick joke? I'm not laughing at all. This is more like day light robbery and false advertising. I hope there's some obscure solution that I've been waiting for since starting this query in December...
 
 Speak up please guys/gals

I'm running 4K using 2 780 Ti Superclocked GPUs, but both of my connectors are DP. I'm running a 1440 monitor and a 1080P monitor as well, so you should have plenty of power. Unfortunately, I've never tried using my TV as a monitor. I try to keep the two separate.