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2014/06/15 21:27:46 (permalink)
past week I've been having random fps drops in games, checked ram, double checked cpu oc stability , all is well
 
now the past two days I've been getting black screens in games and total hard freezes, tried new / older drivers, clean installs, clean OS install...
 
still having issues
 
with SO many people having issues with the 780ti's ( just read these forums ) I have to say there is probably something going on with drivers or these chips theirselves.
 
I am returning this card tomorrow to newegg and am Done with evga.
 
thanks for a terrible experience after owning a 660, 660ti sli, 670 4g, 680 4g and a 780 acx sc, this 780ti classy has made me come to the point of never buying EVGA again.
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/15 21:33:13 (permalink)
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    past week I've been having random fps drops in games, checked ram, double checked cpu oc stability , all is well
     
    now the past two days I've been getting black screens in games and total hard freezes, tried new / older drivers, clean installs, clean OS install...
     
    still having issues
     
    with SO many people having issues with the 780ti's ( just read these forums ) I have to say there is probably something going on with drivers or these chips theirselves.
     
    I am returning this card tomorrow to newegg and am Done with evga.
     
    thanks for a terrible experience after owning a 660, 660ti sli, 670 4g, 680 4g and a 780 acx sc, this 780ti classy has made me come to the point of never buying EVGA again.


    I cant help but ask, whats with all the problems with the 780ti's lately?
    I bought one too and am having what seems like issue after issue and there are like 4 or 5 other threads at the top concerning the 780ti?
    my 780 FTW  i had right before did not have any probs at all.
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/15 21:40:35 (permalink)
    i had a 780 acx sc before as well, not a single issue in 6 months..........
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/15 21:50:17 (permalink)
    I've had my 780Ti's since Nov...not a single issue...when they were on Air or after converting them to water....I've had every line up of Evga Cards from 6800Gt's right thru all generations to current....never have I had one bad GPU....you should look more closely in your system if you're getting that many issues with GPU's .
     
    btw....You'll only ever see threads on "problems"...people generally dont post randomly how great there Cards are working.

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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/15 21:53:11 (permalink)
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    I've had my 780Ti's since Nov...not a single issue...when they were on Air or after converting them to water....I've had every line up of Evga Cards from 6800Gt's right thru all generations to current....never have I had one bad GPU....you should look more closely in your system if you're getting that many issues with GPU's .
     
    btw....You'll only ever see threads on "problems"...people generally dont post randomly how great there Cards are working.




    So true. Out of the thousands of cards sold, you don't see a high number of complaints. Just think of the ratio. In technology, not every piece of hardware will work out perfectly. Only in a perfect world would that happen.        ;)

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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/15 21:53:47 (permalink)
    dude get out of here,
     
    I just told you I've owned every single kepler card and a 780 on the exact same system in the past year without an issue
     
    the 780ti's have an issue, a binning problem and evga know it and refuse to acknowledge it.
     
    they also have bios issues which is why there is the 780ti classy bios update.
     
     
    the classy cards are poor binned, the new kingping lower clock is also lower binned while the premium KP gets the " good chips " and samsung vram.
     
     
    you are delusional and have nothing of help to offer here except defending evga while they continue to sell us flawed / defective chips.
     
    THIS IS MY 2ND 780ti classy after returning the first one for having the acx rattle.
     
    ONLY 780ti's have ever given me issues, look at my OP before you start defending EVGA.
     
    and the only reason people come here is for HELP not evga defense, by the looks of the forum the 780ti line has very serious and consistent issues occuring.
     
    being within 30 days of neweggs return policey I AM returning as I refuse to accept an rma card after only a month and $730 invested ( another evga scam )
    post edited by cloiselle1 - 2014/06/15 21:56:32
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/15 22:49:12 (permalink)
    Going on 5+ months here with a 780Ti Classy SLI setup and zero issues so far.  I'm also overclocking them well past stock specs. 

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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/15 23:04:33 (permalink)
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    Going on 5+ months here with a 780Ti Classy SLI setup and zero issues so far.  I'm also overclocking them well past stock specs. 


    So far my issues have been driver related which i cant blame the card for.
    seems as my 780ti sc does not like the 377.88 driver? LOL
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/15 23:42:59 (permalink)
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    dude get out of here,
     
    I just told you I've owned every single kepler card and a 780 on the exact same system in the past year without an issue
     
    the 780ti's have an issue, a binning problem and evga know it and refuse to acknowledge it.
     
    they also have bios issues which is why there is the 780ti classy bios update.
     
     
    the classy cards are poor binned, the new kingping lower clock is also lower binned while the premium KP gets the " good chips " and samsung vram.
     
     
    you are delusional and have nothing of help to offer here except defending evga while they continue to sell us flawed / defective chips.
     
    THIS IS MY 2ND 780ti classy after returning the first one for having the acx rattle.
     
    ONLY 780ti's have ever given me issues, look at my OP before you start defending EVGA.
     
    and the only reason people come here is for HELP not evga defense, by the looks of the forum the 780ti line has very serious and consistent issues occuring.
     
    being within 30 days of neweggs return policey I AM returning as I refuse to accept an rma card after only a month and $730 invested ( another evga scam )




     
    Dude...i'm here to stay, not going anywhere...I have also seen a ton of folks that simply dont know how to properly tweak or manage a high end GPU...whether it be OC'ing or managing heat. I'm not saying there is nothing wrong with your Card, there very well could be...I would spend about 15 min with your Card to come to that conclusion.
     
    But there certainly isnt an Evga conspiracy with 780Ti's and based upon mine and a ton of other Forum Members..on here and 6 other forums I belong to I simply dont believe there is a "massive problem" with these cards...wow .!
     
    ..what I am saying is that in many cases the problem sometimes lies elsewhere in the Build and this is the case most of the time, whether it be Drivers...poor GPU OC...poor GPU Voltage management or unstable CPU OC....
    Even crappy power from what someone assumes is a "great" Power supply that worked on my last set of GPU's....or overheating Voltage Regulators...etc etc etc.....
     
    I have also had far too many GPU's that I can count over the past decade (all Evga), I can honestly say in a non biased manner that both of these 780Ti SC reference Cards have been the best OC'ing Cards out of the box...with zero issues.
    Any Card I can take out of the box and shoot for a +160 Mhz Core and +300 Mhz Memory with no Bios Mod or Voltage increases is awesome.......prior to that my 680 Classys were like poop compared to these 780ti's...
     
    As for your Fan rattling...yes I've read a number of issues over this...but in all honesty....these $800 bad boys really should be under water my friend.......so you've had all that wonderful experience with other Keplers but now your done with Evga ???
     
    huh......
     
     
     
    post edited by rjbarker - 2014/06/15 23:52:44

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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/16 01:29:51 (permalink)
    Don't scary me, everything is OK with GK110 B1.
    No massive attack on NVIDIA forum and topics with more than 2-3 pages with more than 2-3 people.
    Longest is know issue with GIGABYTE GHz Edition 1085MHz model, something similar I didn't saw.
    People go there to demand fix and explanation if something happen. 
    It's not possible to only GIGA 1085MHz model have more problem than GTX780Ti line.
    Usually when several people with same problem show up than one of them open topic and people come and come and come and explain there problems. No such things, everything is random. On cards problem can manifest on 10-12 ways and you can find people with all kind of problems nothing specific and connected with some manufacturer, model, some have hottest VRM but work, other few percent more cooler fail, other something third, but everything work and everything is for humans.
     
    See and they complain about GTX780Ti... only 1750MHz  - K|NGP|N Classified, probably one of bad NVIDIA GK110 B1, 85 GPixel/s
    http://youtu.be/cK-EC8F-oqw
     
     
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/16 08:20:01 (permalink)
    GTX780ti performance is excellent. My only bad experiences with them, are the noises coming from the ACX cooler due to loose fins on the heatsink.

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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/16 11:14:18 (permalink)
    It would help if the OP posted their system specs.  What's the power supply you have? Do you OC anything, processor or memory or gpu?  If so, exactly how much are you trying to OC your GPU?  What cooling do you have?  The cards with ACX coolers need more airflow inside your case vs stock coolers due to the amount of heat they produce.  Honestly, beyond the random issue, that can occur with any line of cards, the only 780Ti I've heard bad complaints consistently about is that Gigabyte GHz Edition that Vlada011 mentioned.  And that's Gigabyte's design flaw, not the gpu's.  Aside from a few other cooler design flaws from other manufacturers, and from all I've read on the internet, EVGA seems to have the some of the best (if not THE best) designed 780/780Ti cards out there.
     
    And for the re-binning of chips, EVGA sells more Nvidia cards that any other supplier since it is Nvidia's poster child, so they buy more chips to begin with.  For every top tier binned chip they have, they probably have in the order of 10 or more (probably lots more) chips that can't run at that top speed.  To meet the demand of supplying all of their OC cards, Classified/Classified KPE especially, they have to order tons more non-top tier chips, too.  They have to get rid of these chips somehow, so they put those on the Classified platforms at stock speeds and at lower cost, letting the buyer OC these cards himself.
     
    cloiselle1
    I am returning this card tomorrow to newegg and am Done with evga.
     
    thanks for a terrible experience after owning a 660, 660ti sli, 670 4g, 680 4g and a 780 acx sc, this 780ti classy has made me come to the point of never buying EVGA again.

     
    So after 1 problem with 1 EVGA card, you are done with the brand as a whole?  I'm also wondering why you even bought a 780Ti after already buying the 780 ACX SC.  Why not just SLI that one as it was already a fast card?  (Not to mention buying almost every other card that's been released since the 660???  That's a lot of $$$ for very little upgrade per card you've bought.)
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/16 11:28:06 (permalink)
    My first card overheated after 25 minutes of BF4.I have excellent air flow in my case so I knew that wasn't the problem.Tiger air shipped a new card to me in 11/2 days.I know EVGA wants you to contact them but after punching out $699 and not having it work on a new 2011 socket gaming build I was hotter than the defective card.The second card is unbelievable.I didn't know BF4 would look and play that good .As you all know these cards run hot.Mine runs 77c solid when in game even after a few hours.(time flies when your having fun)This is well below specs.And the card is set to 1oo% on precision-x .I do have the fan ramped up but just a little.So far this is the best vid card I have owned and would buy another one.As far as water cooling that is COOL but not needed unless you want to overclock your card but just saying these cards are so fast it isn't necessary for the average gamer. One thing I would run by everyone is when I updated the driver from Nvidia I had problems with the card idling down so I downloaded the drivers from the EVGA site and everything is perfect.I have used EVGA products for many years and have always been satisfied.I will post again after getting more time on the card.Hope to shoot you all in game.     OEWUnkleD
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/16 15:19:00 (permalink)
    7 months and counting using my 780Ti.  Not a single issue.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/16 22:07:37 (permalink)
    I'm going to fill you in, I've been building high end custom rigs for 3 years for a local shop. I do full loops and extreme ocing as well  ( ln2 )
     
    I've seen enough cards dating all the way back to the 8800 days to spot a bad run in cards and poor qc quality,
     
    your argument that a $800 card should be under water does not make the fact that the acx cooler problem being common OK
     
    in any universe except your own ignorant one where you defend evga.
     
     
    coming here for help amongst the morons was a bad idea and I simply regret it.
     
    these cards do have consistant issues and nearly 30% of them are rma'd or returned to be replaced according to a newegg rep.
     
    my tigerdirect rep has also noted a high level of returns with the 780ti's vs other cards and that's just out of one hub.
     
     
    my system is not causing the errors, the drivers are causing half of them, evga's bios is the other half.
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/16 23:57:47 (permalink)
    If you came here with that big of a chip on your shoulder already, it sounds as if you are the moron.  You come here asking for help, and people ask you for specs, which you don't post.  Then you claim you're an expert and then bad mouth the product even more.  No one can help you if you're not even willing to post specs of any sort or at least have some sort of semi-intelligent discussion.  I've had experience with cards before Nvidia even existed and have been building computers for 20 years, but that doesn't mean I'm an expert on anything.  What having lots of returns tells me is that lots of people buy these high-end cards to run in sub-par systems (low power/not enough quality cooling) expecting optimal performance.  When the cards don't perform as expected, they immediately cry foul and blame the cards.  As stated by someone else, you only ever hear about that one problem card per several hundred that are sold.  Many card returns I have read about, even on this forum, are simply sent back because they didn't reach an expected OC amount, which is ludicrous to me, but to some sales rep, a return is a return, whether the card was defective or not.  If Newegg is really experiencing THAT many returns, maybe Newegg is doing something wrong or their shipping carriers are damaging the cards during shipment.  UPS isn't known for its quality of service anymore...
     
    I do agree there are some on this forum that claim a WB is the cure for all issues, but there are others that are (or were in your case) willing to help you, but I doubt that is the true anymore after your last comment.
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/17 00:22:32 (permalink)
    As far as I am aware RMAs are below 1 percent. You never really see the hundreds of people that post whose cards are working correctly. You only see people post who have an issue or problem.
     
    When troubleshooting system problems full system specs are very important otherwise we're making educated guesses. 

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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/17 00:25:24 (permalink)
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    trust me , it's not my system stop being repetitious with noob bs
     
    it's the card and it's already being returned, the 2nd one kill this thread
     
    going with a different brand.
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/17 00:26:50 (permalink)
    constant bsods with classy tool, constant crashes without it at stock settings, it used to pass firestrike 1248  / 7500 now it crashes regardless of driver set.
     
    power target crashes and disapears from px graph or skyrockets to like 736,000 percent in all bench's randomly...
     
    this is on every driver from 332.21 - 337.88 and on stock bios, ln2 bios
     
     
    I am going to try the updated 780ti classy bios in the am as a last resort.
     
     
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/17 01:11:59 (permalink)
    Dont waste your time with this one RJ...he knows everything by the sounds of it....
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/17 02:39:18 (permalink)
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    constant bsods with classy tool, constant crashes without it at stock settings, it used to pass firestrike 1248  / 7500 now it crashes regardless of driver set.
     
    power target crashes and disapears from px graph or skyrockets to like 736,000 percent in all bench's randomly...
     
    this is on every driver from 332.21 - 337.88 and on stock bios, ln2 bios
     
     
    I am going to try the updated 780ti classy bios in the am as a last resort.
     
     




    I would try the skyn3trev.2bios over the 2888 updated bios. I have had no luck with the updated bios, OC'ed or stock.
     
    I have tried every modded bios out there over the last few months along with every driver combo, with my 780 ti classy the 337.88 with the sky bios has given me the best performance without crashes ect. Stock and OC'ed works well with that combo, I game at 1215MHz stable, ACX cooler and stock voltage.
     
    Only issue I still have at this point and have had no luck finding a solution for no matter how many times I re install different drivers or the OS is with running wow. The cards core clock will drop to stock when it should be at full boost during certain points in the game, but this problem is only with wow no other games or bench marks shows the same behavior.
     
    I really like this card but it has had me wanting to pull my hair out at times  just try to stick with it. After all the hard work figuring this card out (most of the issues resolved) it is well worth it, and I would recommend keeping it.

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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/17 06:49:55 (permalink)
    Has the OP even tested the card in another computer? A simple test yet I do not see that posted in this thread......

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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/17 06:57:26 (permalink)
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    Has the OP even tested the card in another computer? A simple test yet I do not see that posted in this thread......


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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/17 07:12:22 (permalink)
    all this and it takes 1 post to bring common sense into the thread...raidflex! op has anger issues and others make it worse by jumping down his throat. these forums are full of fan boys and when u attack the very product/company they have invested in ur not going to get far. just some insight

     
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/17 07:16:03 (permalink)
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    i had a 780 acx sc before as well, not a single issue in 6 months..........


    So then why didn't you stick with the SC ACX card then? Or get another in the Ti form?
     
        If your getting issues,from changing drivers and vbios even who is to say you didn't abuse and OC your card under poor conditions? 1250mhz on air isn't exactly smart in my book on air long term, ACX cooler or not. People who buy Classy's normally do so under the impression that they can OC em really high. Which if that's the case, why aren't you spending the money on a WATER COOLING block holmes?
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/17 21:50:26 (permalink)
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    7 months and counting using my 780Ti.  Not a single issue.


    hear hear, 6 months for me.....love these cards they are beasts....
     
    p.s. I don't see your specs posted(still) for the rest of your rig that you had the classy in...
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/17 22:10:33 (permalink)
    ^^^^ Guess we can assume its one of his high end gaming PC's.....hope its not built for a customer ;)
     
    Anyhow, for whats it worth (not so much for the OP but for others that may stumble on this Thread), if I begin to experience "nv display driver stopped responding but recovered" error, CTD or BSOD or Lock-ups, the first thing I generally tweak is my GPU OC's....if that deosnt solve it likely my CPU OC's (we all know that a CPU OC setting can degrade and become less stable as time goes on, particularly with the amount of vcore.
     
    Another option is try a clean install of GPU Drivers, but typically the errors turn out to be either GPU or CPU OC's that require further tweaking....I sometimes wonder just how many "unnecessary" RMA's of GPU's there are ;)
     
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/18 04:26:43 (permalink)
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    Has the OP even tested the card in another computer? A simple test yet I do not see that posted in this thread......




     
    the level of your guys tech support is like best buy geek squad or staples tech at best.
     
    hilarious
     
    it's an evga bios issue causing bsods and lock up loops because it locks the voltage,
     
    now if chris b would sent me the updated bios I'd like to prove this further,
     
     
    except all the responses stating that the updated bios is still causing issues.
     
    skyn3t is my last step as I bought this card with the advertisement of having unlocked voltage control and " aaa overclocking ability " which was a false promise,
     
    surprisingly kingpin has a great bios at his forums for this card which is also on the to try list, nice to see considering their focus is his SIG. card.
     
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/18 04:28:04 (permalink)
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    ^^^^ Guess we can assume its one of his high end gaming PC's.....hope its not built for a customer ;)
     
    Anyhow, for whats it worth (not so much for the OP but for others that may stumble on this Thread), if I begin to experience "nv display driver stopped responding but recovered" error, CTD or BSOD or Lock-ups, the first thing I generally tweak is my GPU OC's....if that deosnt solve it likely my CPU OC's (we all know that a CPU OC setting can degrade and become less stable as time goes on, particularly with the amount of vcore.
     
    Another option is try a clean install of GPU Drivers, but typically the errors turn out to be either GPU or CPU OC's that require further tweaking....I sometimes wonder just how many "unnecessary" RMA's of GPU's there are ;)
     
    Lovin my 780Ti's, particulalry after introducing them to Mr EKWB ;)
     
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    what does coming in here and posting gpu bench results have anything to do with my topic?
     
    **** troll.
     
    my card is locking up on stock boosts, NO OC.
     
    can you not read or are you to ignorant?
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    Re: 780 ti problems 2014/06/18 04:30:00 (permalink)
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    i had a 780 acx sc before as well, not a single issue in 6 months..........


    So then why didn't you stick with the SC ACX card then? Or get another in the Ti form?
     
        If your getting issues,from changing drivers and vbios even who is to say you didn't abuse and OC your card under poor conditions? 1250mhz on air isn't exactly smart in my book on air long term, ACX cooler or not. People who buy Classy's normally do so under the impression that they can OC em really high. Which if that's the case, why aren't you spending the money on a WATER COOLING block holmes?




    1248 on air with 1.200 vcore ( stock ) and a max temp of 61* is perfectly acceptable , especially considering my fan is at 70% to hold those temps. you could run that for 4/5 years and have no issues on a good card.
    stop with the misinformation and nonsense.
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