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I just bit the bullet and started the step up program for both my EVGA 780 Ti SC to the EVGA GeForce GTX 980 ACX 2.0 04G-P4-2981-KR. Anybody with prior 780 Ti's regret doing that? I did it because I figured a lot of games are supposedly not being ported properly and require 4gb of Video RAM to fully utilize max settings. Both my 78o Ti's have a ASIC quality of over 80% and just worried that I will get crap cards. I know it will be a silicon lottery shoot but wanted to hear from other 780 Ti owners if they regret stepping up to the 980. I just want to know why if you do regret stepping up. In my opinion, it's a side grade more than an upgrade in terms of performance. I could care less about energy savings with the 980 because people who buy these high end cards and worry about how much money they will be saving energy wise have their priorities screwed up.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/10 10:44:09
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The 980 is not worth it. If I could go back I would have kept my 780 ti cards without a thought. Only thing 900 series does well is 3d mark. In gaming, the difference is negligible. I play in 4k and am very disappointed in how the 980 performs. Even running a gtx980 @ 1600 core I feel a 780 ti @ 1100 does the same job easily.
I'm forced to just hoping nvidia at some point can figure out better drivers, but they have been getting worse and worse. (Especially sli)
Plus all my systems with 900 cards whine. None of my 700s did this. I've owned Asus, evga, and evga 980s and 970s. All have coil whine across 3 different test systems. Some are MUCH worse..
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/10 10:56:39
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If you were coming from a 770 I would say step up but I would hold onto the 780 ti's
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/10 11:54:21
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^^Just stepped up from a 770 Classified to 980 ACX 2.0 and I'm really happy. ASIC is 76% and no coil whine. I'm happy with mine but I agree its more of a side step it seems from a 780ti but future drivers could help.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/10 13:04:30
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Definitely no upgrade , i sent the 980 back not worth $700 for a side grade !
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/10 13:09:13
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That is what's scaring me. I have little to no coil whine on both my 780 Ti's and they perform admirably. Just sucks on the 3gb of RAM part which so far, has not been an issue. Ran Shadow of Mordor with the HD Pack and it ran just fine. The Witcher 2 is the only game that made it run annoyingly decent if you know what I mean
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/10 13:23:10
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Gtx980 are over rated for sure...
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/10 13:28:28
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Now you are all making me want to pull my step up. Only two things I do like about the 980's is the lower operating temp/silent operation and the extra GB of Video RAM.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/10 15:04:44
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I didn't have a ti but my 780 sc 6gb would have some tearing on wolfenstein maxed out. The 980 seems to be fine, in fact it seems to max out anything I throw at it.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/10 15:16:50
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Don't let us put you off there are some small increments...
I'm content with mine but as far as a step up its slightly from the side when you come from a 780Ti it just seems to be over hyped glad I didn't trade them both though.
having said that you could flash it and turn it into a super clock from the reff clock.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/10 15:22:16
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The 980 is not worth it. If I could go back I would have kept my 780 ti cards without a thought. Only thing 900 series does well is 3d mark. In gaming, the difference is negligible. I play in 4k and am very disappointed in how the 980 performs. Even running a gtx980 @ 1600 core I feel a 780 ti @ 1100 does the same job easily.
I think it might be because of the fact the 780 ti has more cuda cores
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/10 16:50:50
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I went from two 780ti SC's to two Titan Black SC's to two 980 SC's. I wouldn't call the 980's a true upgrade but I like mine and have no regrets. 3 reasons for 980's 1- You're upgrading from 600 series or older 2- GPU's for "new" build 3- You just wanna! I'm in the #3 catagory. I got a slight but noticeable performance gain in gaming @ 1440p. I really like the lower heat output from 980's too as that was my main reason.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/11 12:39:45
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I stepped-up from two 780TI's to two 980's and I can run every single modern game on maxed out settings with a stable 55-60FPS including the unoptimized AC:Unity. I could not do that with the 780TI cards. Perhaps it is the video memory of the 980 that lets me do this but I'm satisfied with everything.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/11 12:44:22
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Other than unity, what other games you could not run stable at 55-60 fps and what resolution are you running?
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/11 13:07:09
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Other than unity, what other games you could not run stable at 55-60 fps and what resolution are you running?
Resolution is 2560x1080 Other games I had problems maxing out were Shadow of Mordor (textures mainly), DayZ (unoptimized mess), Dota2 (used to lag on everything maxed during big team battles) and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare. Now I can actually Supersample Call of Duty by 4x through the in-game setting and still get a very nice framerate for multiplayer.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/11 14:18:09
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ablangc
Other than unity, what other games you could not run stable at 55-60 fps and what resolution are you running?
Resolution is 2560x1080
Other games I had problems maxing out were Shadow of Mordor (textures mainly), DayZ (unoptimized mess), Dota2 (used to lag on everything maxed during big team battles) and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare. Now I can actually Supersample Call of Duty by 4x through the in-game setting and still get a very nice framerate for multiplayer.
Weird, with my 780 Ti's in SLI (Also running 2560x1080 Dell 29 UW Monitor), I was able to maintain well above 60 fps in Shadow of Mordor with Ultra settings HD pack. I did notice a slight hiccup at first but smoothed itself out over time. I take it that is the VRAM being maxed out
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/11 14:22:45
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I went from two 780ti SC's to two Titan Black SC's to two 980 SC's. I wouldn't call the 980's a true upgrade but I like mine and have no regrets.
3 reasons for 980's
1- You're upgrading from 600 series or older
2- GPU's for "new" build
3- You just wanna!
I'm in the #3 catagory. I got a slight but noticeable performance gain in gaming @ 1440p. I really like the lower heat output from 980's too as that was my main reason.
Still on the fence about doing it because everything I throw at it runs perfect and I have 2 cards with high ASIC quality. I am already on the waiting list for the 980 step-up but about to withdraw it.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/11 18:36:43
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/11 18:49:59
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Heini2
I went from two 780ti SC's to two Titan Black SC's to two 980 SC's. I wouldn't call the 980's a true upgrade but I like mine and have no regrets.
3 reasons for 980's
1- You're upgrading from 600 series or older
2- GPU's for "new" build
3- You just wanna!
I'm in the #3 catagory. I got a slight but noticeable performance gain in gaming @ 1440p. I really like the lower heat output from 980's too as that was my main reason.
Still on the fence about doing it because everything I throw at it runs perfect and I have 2 cards with high ASIC quality. I am already on the waiting list for the 980 step-up but about to withdraw it.
i was hoping this topic had more saying it will be okay i just got approved for 2 GTX980 for my GTX780 Ti SC i am and always will be a 1920x1080 @ 144hz kind of person but now i see more sayin DONT DO IT then i see saying its all good now i am like ........................................... as you are.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/11 23:54:39
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I went frm 690 1080p 120hz to 980 sli 4k 60hz...no regrets so far....
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/12 02:46:44
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well like I said there is a lot of hype... but the 780ti is now yesterday you got to look at tomorrow because today is the 980 and soon you will have nothing to trade up to so when ebay is full of 780ti`s then the money you get wont buy you a 980.
now you may say that if the 980ti appears then you may upgrade but the very existence of the new 980ti will pull the rug out from the 780ti`s value.
I have both... and the Gtx780ti is a beast the 980 still beats it, sure the in game maybe negligible, but it still beats it... and you get 4gb ram
the Gtx780ti is a beast but it cost a lot that's the real sting in the tail, you can run any 780 with any 780 but you cant mix and match the same with the 780ti different architecture niche market that's why we paid plenty dollar for the beast.
I get the feeling within the next six months I will be upgrading AGAIN!!! but at least I will have a plethora of people ready to take the 980 not sure about the 780ti apart from the die hard or those just wanting to upgrade to SLi
Don't live life with regret... technology is fickle so what ever we buy is out dated the moment we hand over our hard earned cash and the people that make these goods already know what there fetching next... shame on them for scamming us all.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/12 03:02:16
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GTX980 is better choice if someone buy now card and better choice if someone want to buy card but plan to upgrade and on stronger Maxwell because it's easier to sell. From other side upgrade from GTX780Ti on GTX980 not worth.
GTX770 and GTX780 are other story. If GTX780 miss little power for nice gaming, I had such experience than GTX780Ti and GTX980 offer exactly that difference for nice fps in current games.
Only is problem... NVIDIA GTX980M for notebook have 8GB, why NVIDIA didn't done that for desktop version when people on desktop will use higher resolution than 1080p and SLI and multi GPU.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/12 03:47:21
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Except in ROPs, 780Ti is extremely superior to 980. I dont know how much 3gB of RAM is a constraint at 1080p versus 4gB.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/12 20:14:51
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☄ Helpfulby ablangc 2014/12/13 13:11:32
I don't regret it, the 1GB extra VRAM alone was worth it. It's still not enough as it occasionally maxes out in a few games but it definitely reduced the stuttering I was getting from it. On top of that it's going to work with DX12 and it is slightly faster when I overclock. I definitely am not happy with how much it overclocks compared to my 780ti dual classified since it is a reference board, and the fact that it has some coil whine but in the end I don't regret it at all. Oh and also it runs maxed out at full overclock and never breaks 66C which is crazy compared to how hot the 780ti got, so I can run the fans less and is therefore quieter.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/12 21:24:36
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To be honest I was shocked when I saw that GTX980M contain 8GB of video memory and that people play nice on 1080p with that such card on lap top because low power consumption. Nice for now.
Power of GTX980M is in some situation lower in some situation bigger than GTX780 for desktop.
That's definitely not enough for smooth gaming, special because such laptops are HD resolution and they could change on 2560X1440p too but it's bad because NVIDIA behave on that way against people who play on desktop.
That mean they knew and they decide to cut video memory for desktop and even hide memory size on specification on their site for mobile graphics. Bad thing of laptops are because they cost 2000-2200$ and after 2 years is dead completely, no upgrade processor, no upgrade graphics and even producer make special version of mobile graphic cards only with intention to stop upgrade.
In my country market place is full of G750 class ROG laptops with 780M, 880M for 700-800-900e less than year olds.
Mobile graphic card 780M weaker than GTX770 for desktop, almost GTX760. But that's not reason to NVIDIA cut video memory to desktop.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/13 13:13:48
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I don't regret it, the 1GB extra VRAM alone was worth it. It's still not enough as it occasionally maxes out in a few games but it definitely reduced the stuttering I was getting from it. On top of that it's going to work with DX12 and it is slightly faster when I overclock. I definitely am not happy with how much it overclocks compared to my 780ti dual classified since it is a reference board, and the fact that it has some coil whine but in the end I don't regret it at all. Oh and also it runs maxed out at full overclock and never breaks 66C which is crazy compared to how hot the 780ti got, so I can run the fans less and is therefore quieter.
Yeah right now I am a big stickler for loud noise coming out of my computer and the 780 Ti runs between 65-75C in SLI with a custom fan curve. Its not loud but its the only noisy thing in my computer.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/13 14:05:20
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I up/side graded to a 980 sc from a 780 classy.
Higher mins/smoother and DSR.
Was running COD:AW 4k and getting 60+
Sold my 780 @ a loss.
Happy with the 980 for the next 5 yrs
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/14 06:39:57
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Fettle...Except in ROPs, 780Ti is extremely superior to 980.... I'd like to know where you got this?
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/14 06:48:35
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It's not superior GTX780Ti, some extremely overclocked models of GTX780Ti are faster than GTX980 reference and GTX980 with lower overclock. But GTX980 OC much better and scaling is better after OC and on 1500MHz boost become incredible fast card. "I up/side graded to a 980 sc from a 780 classy.Higher mins/smoother and DSR.Was running COD:AW 4k and getting 60+Sold my 780 @ a loss.Happy with the 980 for the next 5 yrs" Did you notice some difference because slower memory interface on GTX980. I doubt that's possible but... who knows? Upgrade from GTX780 to GTX980 is completely different thing than GTX780Ti > GTX980. In your case you got even 30% better card.
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Re: 780 Ti Step Up to 980 regrets???
2014/12/14 07:31:29
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It's not superior GTX780Ti, some extremely overclocked models of GTX780Ti are faster than GTX980 reference and GTX980 with lower overclock.
But GTX980 OC much better and scaling is better after OC and on 1500MHz boost become incredible fast card.
"I up/side graded to a 980 sc from a 780 classy.
Higher mins/smoother and DSR.
Was running COD:AW 4k and getting 60+
Sold my 780 @ a loss.
Happy with the 980 for the next 5 yrs"
Did you notice some difference because slower memory interface on GTX980.
I doubt that's possible but... who knows?
Upgrade from GTX780 to GTX980 is completely different thing than GTX780Ti > GTX980.
In your case you got even 30% better card.
I can tell, even my Benq XL2720Z was more colorful?? Runing it 1396 boost 1497 I have seen it go to 1580! From OC sniper v2 bench. No 7 980 No 13 Classy - Score 77.4 GPU 780ti @1435/1900, CPU 3930k @5.0, tayto_0 Link
- Score 76.6 GPU 780ti @1420/1965, CPU 4770k @4.4, khemist Link
- Score 75.7 GPU 780ti @1396/1950, CPU 4960X @4.8, MjFrosty Link
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- Score 68.3 GPU 780ti @1289/1925, CPU 4790k @4.6, jh30uk Link
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- Score 65.2 GPU 780 @1398/1928, CPU 4770k @4.7, whyscotty Link
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