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Well, I got an autonotify that the 1080 ACX FTW was in stock on the EVGA website. I went ahead and ordered in Friday. Right now, I am still sporting a pair of reference EVGA 780 TI's in SLI. I only really play BF4 in 4k these days. Right now, the 780TI's are actually doing the job pretty well considering that they are 3 odd years old. I get 40-80fps depending on map/mode and player count. I have AA off and resolution at just 110 at 3840x2160. I had not seen a direct comparison between the 780TI and the 1080 due to the generation gap, much less an SLI comparison. Many are quick to estimate in terms of percent of benefit given relative benchmarks from 780TI to 980TI to 1080. Of course, actual feel and function will be the real determination of whether or not it is "worth it." I will report back in another week or so as far as how this new card compares to what I have right now at stock clocking levels. Down the road, I will probably get a pair of 1080TI's in SLI when available provided it is a meaningful upgrade. Other relevant stats are : i7 2600k @ 4.2ghz (this guy is still a great cpu. amazingly enough considering it is 6 odd years old??) 16gb ram win 7 64
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/17 09:06:40
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It also depends upon what resolution you're gaming at as well.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/17 09:07:37
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like I noted in the OP, I am at 4k. I wasnt terribly clear there though.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/17 09:34:56
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Well, when I went from 780 Ti's (reference SLI, then Classified SLI) to a single 980 Ti OCed I lost about ~10 to 15% performance. I gained a ton of performance in games that didn't support SLI well/at all. The 980 Ti is anywhere from ~25 to 10% slower (depending on stock vs. stock and stock vs. OC) than a 1080, so coming from 780 Ti SLI you should see anywhere from a small to quite decent performance increase overall - probably around 15 - 35% better with a 1080 (15% stock 1080, perhaps up to 35% with a high OCed 1080). The biggest difference will be the 8GB of VRAM vs. the 780 Ti's 3GB - so in games that suck up the VRAM, you won't have your system offloading textures to system RAM slowing things down / causing stuttering. That may be the cause of your FPS dips down to 40 with the 780 Ti SLI - and I wouldn't be surprised at all if the 1080 eliminates those low dips in BF4 at your 4K resolution.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/17 10:49:30
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Nice, I appreciate your input. Something I do get that is kind of irritating is occasional BSODs due to GPU. Hopefully this will get rid of that. More to come
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/23 04:11:07
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I received the card yesterday Anecdotally, the single 1080 FTW is definitely faster and definitely more quiet. The basic initial comparison was stock for stock where I am about 100fps @ 4k with AA off and resolution post processing at 100. When I use the 780 TI in SLI, I typically clock around 50. When I dial up AA to 4x and resolution to 130, I land around 60fps +/-5 If I apply +75 core and +250 mem, I land around 70-80fps on average. The different map modes and whatnot definitely make a difference. All in all, definitely an upgrade but not a great leap forward versus the 780 TI's.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/23 04:31:36
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redteamgo I received the card yesterday Anecdotally, the single 1080 FTW is definitely faster and definitely more quiet. The basic initial comparison was stock for stock where I am about 100fps @ 4k with AA off and resolution post processing at 100. When I use the 780 TI in SLI, I typically clock around 50. When I dial up AA to 4x and resolution to 130, I land around 60fps +/-5 If I apply +75 core and +250 mem, I land around 70-80fps on average. The different map modes and whatnot definitely make a difference. All in all, definitely an upgrade but not a great leap forward versus the 780 TI's.
Yes but you are comparing two cards in SLI versus a GTX 1080 FTW. The real comparison would be 2 GTX 1080 FTW in SLI versus the 780ti in SLI.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/23 04:34:52
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no offense -- what is your point? it is simply a comparison. no need to get defensive.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/23 07:12:39
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Don't forget about the power draw (and heat) and the noise delta.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/23 08:13:47
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Yes, I agree that the data gathered from a comparison of two cards in SLI vs. a single card is not really fair. No offense meant, but you stated comparing this way was not a great leap forward, just an upgrade. A more apt comparison would obviously be SLI'ed 780Ti's vs. SLI'ed 1080s. And I also agree the 3GB limit on the 780Ti had to be a handicap going forward.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/23 08:15:39
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Ok, so I just had the 780ti in SLI and have moved up to the 1080 FTW in SLI. I have not had much of a chance to game with them, but I can share a couple 3Dmark scores. With Fire Strike Ultra on the 780ti's I got 3871 (medium OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8580799 Then with just the one 1080 FTW I got 5553 (slight OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9436850 And then with both 1080 FTWs in SLI I got 9599 (slight OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9463036 Oh but man one of the biggest differences is the noise, or should I say lack of it. These cards are so quiet. Hope that helps with the comparison. Later today I might be able to provide some frame-rate comparisons for Witcher 3 as well.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/23 08:54:36
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Most excellent.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/23 09:22:00
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ipaine Ok, so I just had the 780ti in SLI and have moved up to the 1080 FTW in SLI. I have not had much of a chance to game with them, but I can share a couple 3Dmark scores. With Fire Strike Ultra on the 780ti's I got 3871 (medium OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8580799 Then with just the one 1080 FTW I got 5553 (slight OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9436850 And then with both 1080 FTWs in SLI I got 9599 (slight OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9463036 Oh but man one of the biggest differences is the noise, or should I say lack of it. These cards are so quiet. Hope that helps with the comparison. Later today I might be able to provide some frame-rate comparisons for Witcher 3 as well.
Some really good info so thanks for sharing. This shows a really good difference between the two in SLI.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/23 10:01:15
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ipaine Ok, so I just had the 780ti in SLI and have moved up to the 1080 FTW in SLI. I have not had much of a chance to game with them, but I can share a couple 3Dmark scores. With Fire Strike Ultra on the 780ti's I got 3871 (medium OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8580799 Then with just the one 1080 FTW I got 5553 (slight OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9436850 And then with both 1080 FTWs in SLI I got 9599 (slight OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9463036 Oh but man one of the biggest differences is the noise, or should I say lack of it. These cards are so quiet. Hope that helps with the comparison. Later today I might be able to provide some frame-rate comparisons for Witcher 3 as well.
Great actual compare with a 4770. Did you by chance record power draw on both setups ? You are probably going to see 40% to 58% drop - (my best guess)
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/23 10:15:41
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ipaine Ok, so I just had the 780ti in SLI and have moved up to the 1080 FTW in SLI. I have not had much of a chance to game with them, but I can share a couple 3Dmark scores. With Fire Strike Ultra on the 780ti's I got 3871 (medium OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8580799 Then with just the one 1080 FTW I got 5553 (slight OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9436850 And then with both 1080 FTWs in SLI I got 9599 (slight OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9463036 Oh but man one of the biggest differences is the noise, or should I say lack of it. These cards are so quiet. Hope that helps with the comparison. Later today I might be able to provide some frame-rate comparisons for Witcher 3 as well.
nice post thanks. this is the kind of comp i was looking for before I bought. I am still happy w my purchase and will SLI the TI when it comes out.. doesn't seem worth it yet. I definitely agree on the noise. my system is far more quiet
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/23 11:29:28
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ipaine Ok, so I just had the 780ti in SLI and have moved up to the 1080 FTW in SLI. I have not had much of a chance to game with them, but I can share a couple 3Dmark scores. With Fire Strike Ultra on the 780ti's I got 3871 (medium OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8580799 Then with just the one 1080 FTW I got 5553 (slight OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9436850 And then with both 1080 FTWs in SLI I got 9599 (slight OC) http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9463036 Oh but man one of the biggest differences is the noise, or should I say lack of it. These cards are so quiet. Hope that helps with the comparison. Later today I might be able to provide some frame-rate comparisons for Witcher 3 as well.
Great actual compare with a 4770. Did you by chance record power draw on both setups ? You are probably going to see 40% to 58% drop - (my best guess)
No I didn't, actually annoyed I forgot to check on the 780ti setup before I swapped. But from what I remember I am about 15-20% less total system power.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/23 13:38:13
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never mind.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/23 14:03:57
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Performance increase from GTX780Ti fabric overclocked to GTX1080 fabric overlocked is excellent.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/24 04:54:52
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Ok, so as I mentioned here are some results from Witcher 3. For the settings, the 780ti runs were made with everything maxed out except two things. - Hairworks. It was set to just Geralt and hairworks AA 4x.
- Foliage Visability Range was at high
For the 1080 and 1080 SLI runs everything was completely maxed including hairworks for all and at 8x AA. All tests run at 2560x1440 780ti (5 runs, lowest Min, Highest Max, Total average) Min Max Avg 37 64 48.3 1080 (8 runs, lowest Min, Highest Max, Total average) Min Max Avg 42 89 62.3 1080 SLI (8 runs, lowest Min, Highest Max, Total average) Min Max Avg 55 110 84.3 The actual runs themselves are taken deep into the game. There are stretches of just riding through the wilderness on horseback and through towns, as well as combat with bandits and furry creatures and others. I'm pretty much positive that on the 1080 SLI run, the lowest min of 55 was achieved when I was fighting an entire pack of wolves in forest with lots of brush. Considering hairworks, I don't think you could get it to be more demanding. And lastly here is a graph showing the fps throughout the 90 second runs. So a lot more dips with the 1080 SLI compared to the 780ti SLI, and I'm not sure why. Maybe it has to do with hairworks being cranked up, but not really sure. Anyways there you all go.
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/07/24 11:44:02
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Nice clear data, should be helpful to other forum members
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Re: 780 TI SLI v 1080 ACX FTW
2016/09/10 23:08:16
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Glad I found this thread! I too own two 780 ti and just purchase a single 1080 FTW : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487245 I game a lot at 1080p due to the capture card I use for twitch streaming. But when I'm not streaming, I game at 1440p w/ G-Sync and it appears this card can handle it's own at that resolution on high settings. Maybe down the road I can grab a second card for SLI setup.
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