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2014/09/23 12:12:41 (permalink)
just wondering if/how much of a bottleneck 2 gtx760's in sli would be on an Asus m5a99x evo motherboard.

I know that when the board is in sli both lanes go to 8x
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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/23 15:52:27 (permalink)
    The difference between 8x & 16x PCI-e slots is negligible. What is more of a limiting factor is what processor you are running & at what speeds. Pretty much any AMD CPU will bottleneck 2x 760's to an extent on CPU bound games. Being someone who owns both a system with an i5 3570k and a system with an FX-8350, I'll tell you first hand, the Intel will destroy my AMD system in an SLI setup, at least in CPU bound games that aren't very multi-threaded. However in games like Crysis 3, Battlefield 4, and other games alike, you probably will hardly see much difference unless you plan on playing at 1024x768.
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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/23 16:41:48 (permalink)
    I do run bf4 mainly with a few others from time to time.  Right now I have a 6300 clocked at 4.1ghz.  I was curious because when I installed the second card and tried out bf4 I had maybe 5 extra fps on the same settings, and yes I have sli turned on lol
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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/23 17:04:23 (permalink)
    at 4.1Ghz you should see a nice difference when SLi is enabled with the FX-6300. I'd personally grab a benchmark program like Unigine Valley benchmark, and run it, without SLI enabled, then run it WITH SLi enabled. See if you see much difference.
    https://unigine.com/products/valley/download/
     Download and run that, and report back with results. I'd say you should be seeing roughly 35-40FPS increase at 1080p with dual 760's on that particular benchmark with a FX-6300. If you run it and see no gains, you have an issue :) at least then you can rule out an SLi issue. BF4 doesn't have the best SLi scaling, but it's not terrible either. I run 2x 670's which is essentially the same performance and chip as a 760, and do see a very noticeable difference in BF4.

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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/23 20:23:24 (permalink)
    First image is sli disabled and 2nd is well you know lol sli enabled

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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/23 22:02:19 (permalink)
    Wow man, that really doesn't seem right!
    On my other rig, running an FX-6100 @ 3.8Ghz and 760 at stock clocks my results were
    36.7 Average
    MIN 16.6
    MAX 71.6
     
    My primary with 2x 670's(basically a 760) on the extremeHD setting scores
    82.1 Average
    34 Minimum
    150 Max
     
    Stupid question, but are you running an SLI bridge?

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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 05:18:49 (permalink)
    Lol, ya I am running the sli bridge, and have it enabled in control panel.  Weird thing is its not always consistence on scores, ive had it score higher when running stock cpu clock.  I did think that the score was a bit low even for the extreme setting
     
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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 05:20:22 (permalink)
    those scores are why I was wondering if the fact that both my pcie lanes are at 8x when running sli could be a factor.
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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 05:27:39 (permalink)
    It is not the PCI-Express in 8x that is a limiting factor it is the CPU or the memory limiting your Marks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSfifE2Domo

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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 07:48:40 (permalink)
    I will have to do some testing when I get home to try and see if my cpu is holding me up
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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 10:11:27 (permalink)
    It's very unlikely, as it seems people are finally trending away from low end, cheap power supply's, but it could also be a power issue. What power supply are you running?

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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 10:23:07 (permalink)
    I suggest giving 3Dmark 13 a go, you should see much more of a difference as valley doesn't have the best multicore support and 3dmark will use all of the cores.
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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 10:30:58 (permalink)
    power supply wise I am running antec 750.    Correct me if I am wrong, but if it was low on power,  wouldnt it crash?  As for 3dmark I will have to look, I cant remember if I have that installed or not.
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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 10:36:23 (permalink)
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    power supply wise I am running antec 750.    Correct me if I am wrong, but if it was low on power,  wouldn't it crash?

    Yeah, that psu is fine. And yes, if it were low on power it would crash.



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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 13:44:09 (permalink)
    I noticed during the physics test my cpu utilization reached 96%
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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 14:10:22 (permalink)
     
    Hmm, that's a really low score. It should be in the 9-10K range. 
    From that I can see the cpu is really limiting the overall score. What cooler are you using? The only thing I can think of is that it's throttling from heat and/or it's not reaching it's max clock speed.



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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 14:44:33 (permalink)
    and her is single card,  I am running a hyper 212 evo cpu temps run around 40c under load never been higher

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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 15:28:12 (permalink)
    Now, the physics & graphics scores are what I would expected them to be for your system. 
    Try it with 2 cards again, the first run might have been a fluke.
     



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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 15:32:05 (permalink)
    just ran a second time.  I had gpuz going this time and I had 76% gpu load, memory controller load at 40%, video engine load at 42%, and power consumption never went over 74%

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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 15:51:18 (permalink)
    Okay, that's definitely a cpu bottleneck. Overclocking it to 4.3-4.5GHz should help quite a bit.
    Try it and report back.
     



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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/24 16:41:56 (permalink)
    ya I will work on that, I havent put much effort into the oc lately.
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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/26 10:33:54 (permalink)
    well its looking better, this one the cpu is clocked at 4.3

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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/26 10:43:06 (permalink)
    Nice, that's much better. What's your gpu usage now?



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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/26 10:47:36 (permalink)
    I briefly saw it up around 92%
     
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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/09/26 11:15:00 (permalink)
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    I briefly saw it up around 92%
     


    Ok, good. If you can get it to 4.5Ghz it should remove the bottleneck completely (well... as much as it can be with that cpu).



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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/12/09 07:39:54 (permalink)
    well, this pretty much solves the issue's now lol  Did a little bit of an upgrade
    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4964649?
     
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    Re: 760 sli bottleneck? 2014/12/13 22:49:57 (permalink)
    "a little bit of an upgrade"? you erased the problem.. 

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