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The monster's specs have been released.
 
0-60 mph in 3.5 seconds
Quarter-mile in 11.4 seconds at 127 mph
1.02 g max cornering
60-0 mph braking in 107 feet (32 meters)
220-pound (100 kg) weight reduction
650-horsepower (485 kW) supercharged LT4 6.2L V-8 engine
*ZL1 performance numbers achieved with a coupe equipped with the available 10-speed automatic transmission and using original-equipment tires on a non-prepped surface.
 

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/17 22:23:05 (permalink)
    Nice toy - pricey - but nice
     
    Is this a limited production, where you will not find it at list even if you wanted one ?

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/17 22:25:54 (permalink)
    Nope, Chevy will build as many as they can sell. That's a cheap price for the performance.

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/17 22:50:07 (permalink)
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    Nope, Chevy will build as many as they can sell. That's a cheap price for the performance.


    No argument there from me.
     
    Hey, wonder if Hertz will get any

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/18 16:07:52 (permalink)
    I would end up like Rush in that car.
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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/18 16:52:12 (permalink)
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    I would end up like Rush in that car.


    Hopefully you're a better driver then Rush is.

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/18 17:34:18 (permalink)
    Just don't know how one is supposed to keep any tires on that beast
     
    Drift three or four hot laps, with all that power

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/18 22:27:12 (permalink)
    All I can say is : I wish! Bahmchickawahhhhwah  That is a nice package, erm vehicle... 
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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/18 22:49:53 (permalink)
    Does that price include 10 extra sets of tires?
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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/19 16:44:57 (permalink)
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    All I can say is : I wish! Bahmchickawahhhhwah  That is a nice package, erm vehicle... 



     
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    Does that price include 10 extra sets of tires?


    I would say no. Learn self control.

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/19 21:02:10 (permalink)
    It's all about throttle modulation.  
     
    Being a Mustang owner, I should be obligated to dislike the new Camaro, but I don't.   And like the other big power cars, Im sure the HP has been underrated.
     
    Add a new pulley, tune and injectors, you could probably easily see that 650 at the wheels.

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/19 21:07:45 (permalink)
    Not interested in a car that I can only legally use 10% of the performance on.
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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/19 21:09:07 (permalink)
    OK is looks hot and its fast
    check & double check
     
    What is the visibility with the roof line and C pillars ?
     
    Is it comfortable on a 500 mile trip or just a couple minute cruise for ice cream ?

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/19 21:12:15 (permalink)
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    Not interested in a car that I can only legally use 10% of the performance on.




    True, at least if you want to keep your license and sleep in your own bed and not the crow bar motel.  Sorry boss, looks like I'm going to have to take about 6 months off.
     
    Track days would be fun; but, your insurance stops right before the front wheel touches the track.

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/19 21:19:41 (permalink)
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    Not interested in a car that I can only legally use 10% of the performance on.




    But it's so nice knowing that the other 90% is there.    
     
    The newer Camaros are noted for horrible visibility due to seating positing and windshield rake.  
     
    Can't speak for the ride, but it has the magnetic suspension, so there would be some adjustability in the ride.  Of course, were it me, that suspension would be the first thing to go replaced by coil overs or something similar to what I have in my car.  The last place I wan't electronics is in my suspension. 
     
     

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/20 11:36:30 (permalink)
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    Not interested in a car that I can only legally use 10% of the performance on.


    Haha, coming from a Porsche Boxster owner.

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/20 13:49:14 (permalink)
    You can get the engine to put in another vehicle for only $15,199. 
     
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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/20 22:58:13 (permalink)
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    You can get the engine to put in another vehicle for only $15,199. 
     


    Different strokes for different folks on that one. That's over 1/3 the price of the ZL1. Personally I would rather have the whole car fine tuned with a full warranty for less then 2/3's more. What an awesome machine!

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/21 02:12:21 (permalink)
    That is a lot of cash for a car....but if you have the money and want it...go for it

                
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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/21 09:16:05 (permalink)
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    You can get the engine to put in another vehicle for only $15,199. 
     


    Different strokes for different folks on that one. That's over 1/3 the price of the ZL1. Personally I would rather have the whole car fine tuned with a full warranty for less then 2/3's more. What an awesome machine!


     
    Whole car would be nice, but just think what kind of sleeper you could make with that engine and transmission.


     
     
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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/21 09:54:32 (permalink)
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    You can get the engine to put in another vehicle for only $15,199. 
     


    Different strokes for different folks on that one. That's over 1/3 the price of the ZL1. Personally I would rather have the whole car fine tuned with a full warranty for less then 2/3's more. What an awesome machine!


     
    Whole car would be nice, but just think what kind of sleeper you could make with that engine and transmission.





    Though the engine transplant has merit. But you would have to build the rest of the car to match
     
    Part of the appeal is the other important specs.
         1.02 g max cornering - (on new street tires)
         60-0 mph braking in 107 feet (32 meters)
     
    Lets see......
    Take 240Z, drop in that HP, Bembo brakes, new trans, new rear, new driveshaft, custom coil over, custom wheels & tires, stiffen frame & add roll cage = $$$$$$ 
    Go hunting for Cobras, Porsches, BMWs, Vetts
     
    Other wise it will drive like all the other late 60s muscle cars - great in a straight line, as long as you do not have to stop or turn at speed

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/21 14:38:54 (permalink)
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    That is a lot of cash for a car....but if you have the money and want it...go for it


    For the performance, it's a bargain!
     


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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/21 18:10:00 (permalink)
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    You can get the engine to put in another vehicle for only $15,199. 
     


    Different strokes for different folks on that one. That's over 1/3 the price of the ZL1. Personally I would rather have the whole car fine tuned with a full warranty for less then 2/3's more. What an awesome machine!


    You using fuzzy math there?
    I think 15,199 is roughly 1/4 the price of 62,000 I do believe 20,766 would be roughly 1/3 the price.
     
    You could drop that motor in a VW bug or a Honda Accord and make a nice ultimate sleeper.
    I say that because there is a WV bug and a Honda Accord running around local with Chevy 350s in them.
     
    I do believe you could make more than 650HP with a lot less money than 15,000 dollars.
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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/21 18:57:23 (permalink)
    Buy a 2017 Camaro SS, install a centri blower of your choice, immediately make over 600whp, pocket the extra 15k you would've spent to get the ZL1.
     
    Something that the all the manufacturers are doing that makes absolutely no sense to me is these new slush box transmissions that have 8+ gears in them.  They're saying 10 for the ZL1.  
     
    Why????
     
    That is absolutely useless in street car.  The only thing it really accomplishes is adding more parts, more weight and more complications and headaches.  As for drivability?  The car is going to downshift 1 to 2 gears if you even say the word "throttle".

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/21 19:23:39 (permalink)
    Dukman
    Buy a 2017 Camaro SS, install a centri blower of your choice, immediately make over 600whp, pocket the extra 15k you would've spent to get the ZL1.
     
    Something that the all the manufacturers are doing that makes absolutely no sense to me is these new slush box transmissions that have 8+ gears in them.  They're saying 10 for the ZL1.  
     
    Why????
     
    That is absolutely useless in street car.  The only thing it really accomplishes is adding more parts, more weight and more complications and headaches.  As for drivability?  The car is going to downshift 1 to 2 gears if you even say the word "throttle".

    Because they shift faster then humans can. Pretty sure I read that the auto weighs less then the manual trans.

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/21 19:31:38 (permalink)
    It's not about how fast they shift.  It's about the fact that an 8, 9 or 10 speed transmission is going to constantly shift.  The gears are going to be way too close to each other to be practical.  I hear it every time I go down the freeway, any throttle tip in and the vehicle changes the gear. 
     
    A dual clutch is all fine and good (if you like boring) as long as there are a reasonable amount of gears involved.  A 6 speed is really the most that a gasoline powered car ever really needs.  7 is doable but overkill.  
     
     

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/21 22:24:37 (permalink)
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    Though the engine transplant has merit. But you would have to build the rest of the car to match
     
    Part of the appeal is the other important specs.
         1.02 g max cornering - (on new street tires)
        60-0 mph braking in 107 feet (32 meters)
     
    Lets see......
    Take 240Z, drop in that HP, Bembo brakes, new trans, new rear, new driveshaft, custom coil over, custom wheels & tires, stiffen frame & add roll cage = $$$$$$ 
    Go hunting for Cobras, Porsches, BMWs, Vetts
     
    Other wise it will drive like all the other late 60s muscle cars - great in a straight line, as long as you do not have to stop or turn at speed




    I'm thinking like Gas Monkey Garage type build, use that awesome engine and drop it into an older car. They dropped drive train out of a 2015 Scat Pack into an old 1971 Challenger R/T Scat Pack.
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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/21 23:09:44 (permalink)
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    It's not about how fast they shift.  It's about the fact that an 8, 9 or 10 speed transmission is going to constantly shift.  The gears are going to be way too close to each other to be practical.  I hear it every time I go down the freeway, any throttle tip in and the vehicle changes the gear. 
     
    A dual clutch is all fine and good (if you like boring) as long as there are a reasonable amount of gears involved.  A 6 speed is really the most that a gasoline powered car ever really needs.  7 is doable but overkill.  
     
     

    Then you don't care about performance. Plus it gets rid of the gas guzzler tax.

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/22 01:00:07 (permalink)
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    That is a lot of cash for a car....but if you have the money and want it...go for it


    For the performance, it's a bargain!
     




    You have to really want it though. $62K is still a lot of money to put down just to enjoy the performance. If they're wanting to, however, go for it!
     
    IMO: (Let the flames come, because I know they'll come) Chevrolet is to Intel as Ford is to AMD. Ford could provide the exact same thing with pretty much a reduced price, while Chevrolet (or should we just call it GM?) will have it too with a hunk of a price tag.
     
    (Just some side note information, not that it really matters to you all, but it could matter. Ford has a contingency plan for their automotive freight in case their contracted carriers break down and are unable to cover the freight in order to be shipped to their plants. The GM plants do not have this feature, and rely fully on the contracted carrier(s) to fully deliver. It's a live or die situation for the contracted carrier to run freight for GM, as GM does not have any plan B, and they require the contracted carrier to fully deliver, or they pay for all expenses when the plant shuts down. I'm not sure if this is due to the fact that GM was bailed out by the government years ago or not and that might be why Ford is able to afford a broker carrier, which is NLMI/XPO, in case the contracted carrier(s) break down and are unable to cover. Perhaps this is why GM cars are more expensive? Maybe I'm wrong on this.)
     
    Don't get me wrong on any of this, I'll choose GM over Ford any day.
    post edited by stalinx20 - 2016/08/22 01:16:58

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    Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/08/22 06:40:17 (permalink)
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    It's not about how fast they shift.  It's about the fact that an 8, 9 or 10 speed transmission is going to constantly shift.  The gears are going to be way too close to each other to be practical.  I hear it every time I go down the freeway, any throttle tip in and the vehicle changes the gear. 
     
    A dual clutch is all fine and good (if you like boring) as long as there are a reasonable amount of gears involved.  A 6 speed is really the most that a gasoline powered car ever really needs.  7 is doable but overkill.  
     
     

    Then you don't care about performance. Plus it gets rid of the gas guzzler tax.



    ????
     
    How is not wanting 10 gears or an automatic not caring about performance?   

    Anyway, it seems like Im the odd one out when it comes to these multiple gear automatics.  Everyone else is excited about it.  Okay.  I'll stay over here with my antiquated 3 pedals and 5 gears.  

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