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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 2016/11/22 07:22:25 (permalink)
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But I must point out again, the true American mid life crisis supercar, the Corvette, which comes with both a performance package and a decent price tag...is an abomination.




Fixed :D
 
I really only like the old sting ray Corvettes or the old school split window. All others are ugly IMHO.




The latest one is truly horrendous. So much unnecessary trim. But the ones before that weren't anything to behold, either. The true Corvettes date back to second and third generation. Anything that followed suffered aesthetically. And for such a price tag I want more than just a 638 HP engine in a ZR-1 that can still barely out-torque a 530 HP Porsche 911 GT2 to a finish line.
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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/23 17:12:34 (permalink)
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Man I love competition. Been following this story on a few other sites. The only downside to this car is the veeeeeeeeeery long on the tooth body style.
 
We truly live in the best ever time to own a car people! The 60's & 70'S have officially lost their title.
 
Just wait and see how Dodge responds and the all new Mustang in 2020... Leapfrogging at its best!


IMO the Camaro is light years ahead of the Mustang and Challenger in looks on the outside and interior. Then we have the Camaro stomping the Mustang in Performance and the Challenger Hellcat might have a little and I mean a little straight line advantage on the ZL1 (for more money), but throw some corners in there and the Hellcat will never see the ZL1.
 
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"Looks at the car sales for the last two years and giggles"


You must not have looked at September and October. Camaro outsold the Mustang these two months and will probably stay that way, especially with the 1LE and ZL1 coming to market. When you're getting stomped in performance, there really isn't much to giggle about, then add to that the Camaro taking the sales per month lead again and Ford had to actually shut down their Mustang plant as their sales dropped 32%. Not a great time to be bragging about the fish out of water car. They should have renamed the Mustang to Goldfish.



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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/23 17:20:47 (permalink)
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Man I love competition. Been following this story on a few other sites. The only downside to this car is the veeeeeeeeeery long on the tooth body style.
 
We truly live in the best ever time to own a car people! The 60's & 70'S have officially lost their title.
 
Just wait and see how Dodge responds and the all new Mustang in 2020... Leapfrogging at its best!


IMO the Camaro is light years ahead of the Mustang and Challenger in looks on the outside and interior. Then we have the Camaro stomping the Mustang in Performance and the Challenger Hellcat might have a little and I mean a little straight line advantage on the ZL1 (for more money), but throw some corners in there and the Hellcat will never see the ZL1.
 
Afterburner
"Looks at the car sales for the last two years and giggles"


You must not have looked at September and October. Camaro outsold the Mustang these two months and will probably stay that way, especially with the 1LE and ZL1 coming to market. When you're getting stomped in performance, there really isn't much to giggle about, then add to that the Camaro taking the sales per month lead again and Ford had to actually shut down their Mustang plant as their sales dropped 32%. Not a great time to be bragging about the fish out of water car. They should have renamed the Mustang to Goldfish.




The Mustang Will Win the 2016 Title
With two months left in the 2016 calendar, the Ford Mustang sits in 1st place in the annual muscle car sales race, leading the Chevrolet Camaro by more than 30,000 units. GM has only sold more than 10,000 Camaros in a single month once during the modern era, and to catch what the Mustang has now – GM would need to average more than 16,000 Camaros per month to come close to Ford’s total. Really, Ford could stop selling Mustangs today and GM still wouldn’t be able to claim the muscle car title. 
 
http://www.torquenews.com...er-segment-sales-slump
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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/23 17:59:47 (permalink)
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Man I love competition. Been following this story on a few other sites. The only downside to this car is the veeeeeeeeeery long on the tooth body style.
 
We truly live in the best ever time to own a car people! The 60's & 70'S have officially lost their title.
 
Just wait and see how Dodge responds and the all new Mustang in 2020... Leapfrogging at its best!


IMO the Camaro is light years ahead of the Mustang and Challenger in looks on the outside and interior. Then we have the Camaro stomping the Mustang in Performance and the Challenger Hellcat might have a little and I mean a little straight line advantage on the ZL1 (for more money), but throw some corners in there and the Hellcat will never see the ZL1.
 
Afterburner
"Looks at the car sales for the last two years and giggles"


You must not have looked at September and October. Camaro outsold the Mustang these two months and will probably stay that way, especially with the 1LE and ZL1 coming to market. When you're getting stomped in performance, there really isn't much to giggle about, then add to that the Camaro taking the sales per month lead again and Ford had to actually shut down their Mustang plant as their sales dropped 32%. Not a great time to be bragging about the fish out of water car. They should have renamed the Mustang to Goldfish.




The Mustang Will Win the 2016 Title
With two months left in the 2016 calendar, the Ford Mustang sits in 1st place in the annual muscle car sales race, leading the Chevrolet Camaro by more than 30,000 units. GM has only sold more than 10,000 Camaros in a single month once during the modern era, and to catch what the Mustang has now – GM would need to average more than 16,000 Camaros per month to come close to Ford’s total. Really, Ford could stop selling Mustangs today and GM still wouldn’t be able to claim the muscle car title. 
 
http://www.torquenews.com...er-segment-sales-slump


You have zero to be proud of. Mustang sales are down, they had to shut down the Mustang production plant, the Camaro just took over the monthly sales lead for the last 2 months and the Camaro stomps the Mustang in Performance. I doubt Mustang will get the monthly sales lead again.
post edited by kram36 - 2016/11/23 18:01:26

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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/23 18:06:11 (permalink)
Good luck next year. 


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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/23 18:11:00 (permalink)
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Good luck next year. 


Not an issue. The Goldfish sales are on the way down and the Camaro sales are on the way up with the 1LE and LZ1 hitting market.

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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/23 18:43:15 (permalink)
IMO the 2017 Camaro is one of the ugliest cars.


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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/23 21:06:05 (permalink)
Absolute beauty.
 


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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/23 21:34:31 (permalink)
Looks too much like a mustang

 
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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/24 06:07:33 (permalink)
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Absolute beauty.
 





In the human sense this car is the equivalent of Jocelyn Wildenstein.
 
You have absolutely no taste.
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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/24 07:20:23 (permalink)
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Looks too much like a mustang



Not even close.
 



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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/24 08:35:12 (permalink)
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Looks too much like a mustang



Not even close.
 




Yeah you're right not even close, the Mustang looks 100x better!!!
 
Happy Thankgining
I am thankful the Mustang looks 100x better!!!

 
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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/24 08:46:05 (permalink)
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Looks too much like a mustang



Not even close.
 




Yeah you're right not even close, the Mustang looks 100x better!!!
 
Happy Thankgining
I am thankful the Mustang looks 100x better!!!


Oh you're funny. The Goldfish, I mean Mustang looks like a fish out of water and the Camaro looks like a jet fighter. I'm thankful the Camaro looks 1000x better!!!

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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/24 09:14:00 (permalink)
Lol the Mustang looks so much better side by side it's not even funny.  You would literally have to pay me to get in the Camaro.  The Camaro just looks like it is trying way too hard to look edgy and ends up looking terrible.


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Re: 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 650 HP starts at $62,135 Official Nürburgring Lap Time added 2016/11/24 12:47:06 (permalink)
That new camaro is trying to be a lexus in the worst way
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