2016 Camaro (6th Gen) Testing on the Nurburgring 
 

 
Sounds like a beast!

 

It's headlights look like it mimics Asian style vehicles. I like the look of the Camaros, but I can't get comfortable in the driver's seat... I am also not a fan of the newer Model Mustangs. I do like the styling, generally speaking...

What's with all the graphitti on the track surface?

Was recalled right after the video was shot. =P

moose517
Psssht, GMD might be recalling a lot of vehicles for things but IMO i'm glad to know they aren't hiding it(anymore) a nd honestly the whole ignition thing is still silly IMO, but hey, maybe it will bring push start with keyless entyr!

There not hiding it because they got caught for it silly. Also its because people complained.
 
Anyways the Camaro is not worth going into debt for. Really any car IMO that is over 30K is not worth going into debt for. I can agree with 40K at tops with a truck though because you can do so much more with a truck than a car.

Brad_Hawthorne
What's with all the graphitti on the track surface?

http://www.nurburgring.org.uk/graffiti.php

moose517

HAZMAN_THE_GREAT

moose517
Psssht, GMD might be recalling a lot of vehicles for things but IMO i'm glad to know they aren't hiding it(anymore) a nd honestly the whole ignition thing is still silly IMO, but hey, maybe it will bring push start with keyless entyr!

There not hiding it because they got caught for it silly. Also its because people complained.
 
Anyways the Camaro is not worth going into debt for. Really any car IMO that is over 30K is not worth going into debt for. I can agree with 40K at tops with a truck though because you can do so much more with a truck than a car.

Thats quite subjective, i have absolutely 0 use for a truck of any sorts, and while yes a camaro or a higher end mustang or challenger is going to cost a pretty penny if it makes you happy who cares.

yea, very subjective. I have no use for a personal truck and if something comes up I have a company truck. You can add another dozen cars to your list too. If you can afford it and it makes you happy do it.

Grey_Beard
Not found of GM products.  They could produce the greatest car for the next 50 years and I would say BLAH.  Style is a personal choice and so is the ability to part with a large amount of cash or go into a large amount of debt.  Seems that we will find some sub-standard production item and large recall like most of their products build since the bailout.  Just seems like the people who bailed these yahoos out should have gotten more than a commercial that said we were paid back we were not and most likely never will be.  I know many will blast this, but its an opinion. just as your talks and rants back are just the same, opinions.  The facts are their quality and recall records are atrocious.  Stock for this company might go up a few point then down many after the recalls start rolling in.  29,000,000 cars recalled this year.  Need I say more.  Good luck gambling with your hard earned cash.  I hear there is still one working Pontiac Fiero still on the road.  That way your assured no more depreciation, as it is like worth pennies even in good working order.  Hey, what ever happen to the many liability claims that got shoved under the rug that they are not responsible for.  The many lives impacted and never compensated for even the hospital or injury claims.  Just a shady deal.  Just a shady company and I cannot support such a shady group that they would sell their sole for the future.  I understand the bailout saved many jobs, but these executive are the worst.  Have been for a while.  Generous Motors, Government Motors, Garbage Motors, etc, call it what you want.  In my opinion it is bad management and bad operations.  Oh and I live in a state that has more GM plants than most any other.  So don't say that I have no clue what their economic impact is or can be.  FYI, most of these facilities are now vacant and becoming eye sores that the local governments now have to deal with.  What do these guys not step in and do the right thing, as they took all tax credits while they operated the plants.  Wrong in so many ways.  Oh and the Camaro, nice car if you just park it your garage.

I am also excited for the new Camaro.

-ZS-Carpenter

moose517

HAZMAN_THE_GREAT

moose517
Psssht, GMD might be recalling a lot of vehicles for things but IMO i'm glad to know they aren't hiding it(anymore) a nd honestly the whole ignition thing is still silly IMO, but hey, maybe it will bring push start with keyless entyr!

There not hiding it because they got caught for it silly. Also its because people complained.
 
Anyways the Camaro is not worth going into debt for. Really any car IMO that is over 30K is not worth going into debt for. I can agree with 40K at tops with a truck though because you can do so much more with a truck than a car.

Thats quite subjective, i have absolutely 0 use for a truck of any sorts, and while yes a camaro or a higher end mustang or challenger is going to cost a pretty penny if it makes you happy who cares.

yea, very subjective. I have no use for a personal truck and if something comes up I have a company truck. You can add another dozen cars to your list too. If you can afford it and it makes you happy do it.

I understand what you and Moose are saying about the happiness thing. Also if you can "afford it" that is subjective too in itself. But I see it in a very conservative money management saving way. The reason why I look at the way I do is because your vehicle is a BIG investment. With that said all that money you spent and invested on that vehicle can be gone in a second by you having an accident weather it be some one hitting you or you hitting them. I know some of you maybe like thats why you have insurance Hazman. Well do you honestly think your insurance is going to pay you at least half of what you spent on your car. Also what if the other person in the accident or accidents does not have insurance? And after said accident your insurance payments are going to go through the roof and in the longer run you will be saying damn it. Another thing is even if you did not have an accident, having an expensive sports car like that Camaro will be pretty hefty with insurance payments regardless. (Of course your driving record is taken into account). But with the whole afford it thing does not mean you should just blow money out the blue just because you can. Be wise and spend it on something that will benefit you. Hey just because you can afford it now does not mean you can afford it in the future. Things could happen like you losing your job or you getting some injury that cost thousands on your medical bills, or maybe your property gets burned up in a home fire. Well as you can see I think of ALL these things when it comes to considering in making a BIG purchase.
 
 
My four favorite quotes when it comes to living within your means and being frugal:
 
“Frugality is one of the most beautiful and joyful words in the English language, and yet one that we are culturally cut off from understanding and enjoying. The consumption society has made us feel that happiness lies in having things, and has failed to teach us the happiness of not having things.”
― Elise Boulding
 
“I have learned to seek my happiness by limiting my desires, rather than in attempting to satisfy them.”
― John Stuart Mill
 
“There is no dignity quite so impressive, and no independence quite so important,  as living within your means.”
― Calvin Coolidge
 
“The way to wealth is as plain as the way to market. It depends chiefly on two words, industry and frugality: that is, waste neither time nor money, but make the best use of both. Without industry and frugality nothing will do, and with them everything.”
― Benjamin Franklin
 
To be the best you have to learn from the best

All i can say to what hazman said is YOLO.  Why sit on a lump of money, live a little, have some fun ;)  There is no such thing as a solid investment no matter how you look at it.  Houses can just as easily be damaged as a car

http://www.mlive.com/auto/index.ssf/2013/12/meet_first_ford_mustang_owner.html
 
Traded in a chevy for a ford. 

24 years is hard to beat. Let's see if GM can beat that.

I suppose my Yugo is going to take a beating now.

lol, ran into this video.