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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 10:05:50
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Punchy I haven't compared points as I only have CPUs, but from discussions I have read in the past, won't GPUs outperform CPUs by a huge margin (like 10x or more)? If that is true, it seems that we should keep our CPUs on CSG and POGS whilst using all the GPU power we have to attack PG.
This post at PG from a couple years ago when the credit for PPS Sieve was adjusted sums it up Message 78306 - Posted: 25 Jul 2014 | 11:17:55 UTC - in response to Message 78304. I'm confused as to why the Nvidia cuda PPS Sieve is fairly short but gives so much credit: it seems to be 3,371 per task! May I ask exactly why this is? The GPU program is very efficient and utilizes the GPU very well. That's why it runs so quickly. The task itself is actually quite a large task. If you were to run the very same task on a cpu core you wouldn't think it's a very short task. You might even be asking why its credit is so low and is only 3,371. Were you to read through the forums, you would see that we lowered the credit on this sieve a couple of years ago, which was widely hailed throughout the user community as a fantastic move. (Okay, maybe not so much. "Angry mob with pitchforks" might be a better description.) Bottom line is we're happy with where the credit is right now and think it's the correct level. Understand that there's no "perfect" credit formula -- but there are certainly ways of assigning credit that are far worse that what we use. ____________
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 14:47:19
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PPS sieve it is then?? We could bunker that for a day or two.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 14:52:01
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Sorry gang not up much on this anymore, this is what we are going to run now? Proth Prime Search Sieve (PPS-Sieve) on the GPU and not the CPU.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 15:15:25
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That is my vote because if the weather heats up again I'd have more control over them. Can't argue with the points either. We can start dropping them in less than 26 hours so have at them. I have about 400 squirreled away. bcav, let us know what those big AMD cards can do on them.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 15:20:31
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Will do, I am setting them up now! I will run 4 980 and 2 290x cards My 980 Settings: app_config.xml <app_config> <app> <name>pps_sr2sieve</name> <max_concurrent>8</max_concurrent> <gpu_versions> <gpu_usage>0.5</gpu_usage> <cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage> </gpu_versions> </app> </app_config> or <app_config> <app> <name>pps_sr2sieve</name> <gpu_versions> <gpu_usage>1.0</gpu_usage> <cpu_usage>1.0</cpu_usage> </gpu_versions> </app> </app_config> Some completed 980 Tasks Run Time @ 1500 MHz 13:40 Minutes running 2 Tasks per GPU. Run time: 829.64 CPU time: 66.85 Credit 3,371.00 Run time: 831.70 CPU time: 67.25 Credit: 3,371.00 My 290X Settings: Run time: 836.61 CPU time: 468.39 Credit: 3,371.00 app_info.xml Note the Name here for the AMD 290 or CAL Hawaii and above cards AMD Tasks Run Time @ 1080 MHz 13:45 Minutes running 2 Tasks per GPU. * May changes all to One Per GPU <app_info> <app> <name>pps_sr2sieve</name> <user_friendly_name>Proth Prime Search (Sieve)</user_friendly_name> </app> <file_info> <name>primegrid_tpsieve_1.40_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsieve.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>pps_sr2sieve</app_name> <version_num>140</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>1</max_ncpus> <flops>1.0e11</flops> <coproc> <type>ATI</type> <count>.5</count> </coproc> <cmdline></cmdline> <file_ref> <file_name>primegrid_tpsieve_1.40_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsieve.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> </app_info> OR <app_info> <app> <name>pps_sr2sieve</name> <user_friendly_name>Proth Prime Search (Sieve)</user_friendly_name> </app> <file_info> <name>primegrid_tpsieve_1.40_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsieve.exe</name> <executable/> </file_info> <app_version> <app_name>pps_sr2sieve</app_name> <version_num>140</version_num> <platform>windows_x86_64</platform> <avg_ncpus>1</avg_ncpus> <max_ncpus>1</max_ncpus> <flops>1.0e11</flops> <coproc> <type>ATI</type> <count>1</count> </coproc> <cmdline></cmdline> <file_ref> <file_name>primegrid_tpsieve_1.40_windows_intelx86__atiPPSsieve.exe</file_name> <main_program/> </file_ref> </app_version> </app_info>
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 15:40:37
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So I have to fly out of here Friday and return Sunday night. Let me know the settings and when I should start bunkering given my schedule. Until further instructions I am running CSG and POGS. Thanks my EVGA broheims!  rs
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 15:48:50
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I really do not like bunkering, but if the team is doing it I will start after my current testing.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 15:50:53
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OK then, it works for me too. Yodap, looks like our weather will cool off for a couple days. just in time too.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 16:09:04
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 16:31:02
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 16:55:03
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OK, I did get 400 tasks for the 980 and then PrimeGrid ran out of tasks.  OK, I did get 200 tasks for the AMD and then PrimeGrid ran out of tasks.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 17:37:53
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Ok I'm in for PPS Sieve on GPU for our PrimeGrid effort.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 17:39:07
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Opolis Ok I'm in for PPS Sieve on GPU for our PrimeGrid effort.
Did you get any Tasks?
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 18:58:21
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bill1024 Yodap, looks like our weather will cool off for a couple days. just in time too.
Ya mon, that's what I'm talking about! bcavnaugh OK, I did get 400 tasks for the 980 and then PrimeGrid ran out of tasks. OK, I did get 200 tasks for the AMD and then PrimeGrid ran out of tasks.
I'd be surprised if they're out for long but the pentathlon may have taken a bit of a toll on them.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 19:19:50
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robbysites So I have to fly out of here Friday and return Sunday night. Let me know the settings and when I should start bunkering given my schedule. Until further instructions I am running CSG and POGS. Thanks my EVGA broheims! rs
robby, given your sched, just start running pps sieve about 8PM tomorrow nite your time or sooner if you want to bunker.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 19:19:51
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/07 19:45:23
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I am crunching some now, 400 or so. Can start unloading tomorrow night (Wednesday) 8PM eastern time. 5 min on my GTX980Ti 10 min on my GTX970
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/08 04:18:37
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I'm not getting any CSG tasks again.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/08 05:01:48
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Will release a batch of POGS and GFN17 tomorrow.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/08 08:02:57
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Orange_1050 Will release a batch of POGS and GFN17 tomorrow.
POGS is running well for me ATM. I will change my CSG over to POGS do to no new tasks. Some of us are going with Proth Prime Search Sieve (PPS-Sieve) on the GPU for speed and points gain. yodap I'm not getting any CSG tasks again.
Yep! not more tasks. On PrimeGrid it looks like you can only download 100 task per GPU so that my rig did not sit down the rest of the day I updated 600 and down loaded another 600 for to night.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/08 17:06:24
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/08 20:08:07
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We are in 13TH overall, not bad at all.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/08 20:24:47
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I had to talk trash on the website because we were in a 3 way tie with 2 other teams at 63 points, but were ranked 15th and they were tied at 13th. Told them tomorrow it wouldn't matter.  I was right. check it out
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/08 23:15:24
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Bunkers released, also I have switched from GFN to Sieve. Two 780Ti's has been added to the sieving. (They cannot run GFN's)
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/09 11:16:36
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Sites are down once more. Auswahl der Datenbank Start fehlgeschlagen Keine Verbindung möglich: No such file or directory
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/09 11:18:48
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Orange_1050 Bunkers released, also I have switched from GFN to Sieve. Two 780Ti's has been added to the sieving. (They cannot run GFN's)
What was the time to complete and points for the GFN(?) that you ran?
post edited by bcavnaugh - 2016/06/09 11:29:25
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/09 17:53:23
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/09 20:47:46
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Having so many pogs waiting for validation (700+), and not getting CSG for some reason. I am running SGS primegrid just to keep busy. One SGS took more than twice the time the others did, maybe I found a prime. I did 16 universe yesterday and turned them in to get a time/point idea, they are still waiting validation. Maybe after this round of PG SGS I'll bunker some universe.
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Re: 2016 BOINC Pentathlon!!!
2016/06/10 05:38:55
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Universe gives low points, about 300+ for a 2-2.5 hour work unit. Not great but not great for all teams.
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