Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 06:26:02
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Thanks to incredibly generous donations by our folding community members (and EVGA) we have the luxury of having more prizes to give away than eligible contestants!  Punchy has informed me that so far most people are making limited selections - which is a good thing to only select prizes that you will value and use.  So anyone that has picked a solid mix of popular prizes along with some of the less popular prizes should find themselves walking away with something at the end of the contest.
The question I would like some feedback on is what do we want to do with prizes that are unpicked after being run through the prize selection tool? Do we save them for the next contest? Do we want to give them away? If so how?
This is an issue we've never encountered before, so any input the community has would be appreciated (especially if you have donated something).
I would say, once all are picked and used, have the ones that didn't get their selection repick, if possible, or pass. If the rest of the gifts are still available, have the original winners pick from the remaining lot after all users have been given a chance to pick in the initial round. Yes, some will get two prizes, but so is the choice of life. One thing I want to point out, there is 10 shirt and lanyard condo's total from EVGA. So, that helps for those that pick that selection.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 06:27:33
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What do we do if the prizes we have selected are no longer available?
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 06:31:45
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Well one, encourage all those that passed to give it another go and select something small if they want, then maybe have a "round 2" where more prizes are given out... (IE you could win more than one prize)
Or we could do something for those that continue to fold for the 3 billion point month? a second contest for extra prizes?, granted if the prizes are used in any way other than mentioned when they were first donated I think it'd be proper to get permission from the donors to use it in whatever secondary use that we might decide on (though I don't really expect objections, it would be a polite thing to do I think)
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 06:40:33
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I just selected more steam games to broaden the prizes I am eligible for.
I like what z999 mentioned with holding the second set for those that continue to 3b.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 07:57:03
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Anyone seen this before? ERROR:Discrepancy: Forces are blowing up!  I was struggling over the weekend too. Took a whole day to finish a WU that normally takes less than 6 hours.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 08:00:28
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Anyone seen this before?
ERROR:Discrepancy: Forces are blowing up!
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I was struggling over the weekend too. Took a whole day to finish a WU that normally takes less than 6 hours.
We, I am using Thread 355.60 Last Stable Driver? for issues like this to help keep this Thread on Track of the TZC.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 08:46:35
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For me, a second round of prize pick might be best choice once we complete the 3 Billion Month Challenge.. Because we are going to get there..... 
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 09:28:34
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What do we do if the prizes we have selected are no longer available?
We process the individual "pick lists" in the order of the drawing that troy will do at the end. If we get to someone's turn and all the prizes in their list are already gone, it's treated as a "pass", no prize is assigned, and we move on to the next person.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 09:36:53
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Gee, how generous! Why don't you notify us so we can pick from whatever is left?
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 09:43:35
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Gee, how generous! Why don't you notify us so we can pick from whatever is left?
Isn't that what the purpose of the second round that we're discussing right now is for? The way the prize picker is set up, if all the prizes are gone that you selected you said you would pass on all the others. That's what the first column states in the prize picker, right?
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 09:47:57
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So, you're saying I should wait until the second round when there are even less prizes that I might want or need?
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 09:48:00
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Gee, how generous! Why don't you notify us so we can pick from whatever is left?
The whole point of the prize picker tool is that you make ALL your preferences known before the process starts. That way, we can instantly figure out who gets what prizes. It's an automated process that doesn't involve the overhead of PMs. I don't know how to explain this any more clearly. Put ALL the things that you want in the pick list, and leave things that you don't want in the pass/available column so someone else might get them. If we go with your idea, then we end up waiting days or weeks before all the prizes get distributed, because that's how long it takes for people to respond to PMs when they are done sequentially and each is dependent on the previous.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 10:00:34
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Once MOP reaches 200 Million I will be stopping to Fold for awhile.
Because of:
12:50:56:WU02:FS00:0x21:Bad State detected... attempting to resume from last good checkpoint
And
15:37:18:WARNING:WU00:FS01:FahCore returned: BAD_WORK_UNIT (114 = 0x72)
15:37:18:WU00:FS01:Sending unit results: id:00 state:SEND error:FAULTY project:9628 run:0 clone:39 gen:11 core:0x21
If Stanford cannot correct the Problem with Core 21 P96xx and some P97xx Projects or Core 21 in General then I must pull out as I cannot afford the cost of wasted Electricity.
Sorry Team but Money is Money.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 10:10:33
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What do we do if the prizes we have selected are no longer available?
Nothing. The process is automated and requires no additional input after you have made your initial selection of prizes. If all the prizes you have selected are no longer available then that is a combination of bad luck (bad random draw in the pick order) and not selecting a large and diverse set of prizes that interests you. The former you have no control over, the latter is on you. There are enough prizes for everyone to get something, however, if you only select the most popular prizes (and get a bad draw in pick order) there is a chance you will end up winning nothing. Punchy's prize selection tool makes this process relatively painless and incredibly efficient compared to other methods. After the selection order has been determined by a random drawing, Punchy's tool will give you the highest ranking prize on your list that is still remaining in the pool of available prizes. This is entirely automated and requires no additional action on your part.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 10:14:45
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Once MOP reaches 200 Million I will be stopping to Fold for awhile.
Because of:
12:50:56:WU02:FS00:0x21:Bad State detected... attempting to resume from last good checkpoint
And
15:37:18:WARNING:WU00:FS01:FahCore returned: BAD_WORK_UNIT (114 = 0x72)
15:37:18:WU00:FS01:Sending unit results: id:00 state:SEND error:FAULTY project:9628 run:0 clone:39 gen:11 core:0x21
If Stanford cannot correct the Problem with Core 21 P96xx and some P97xx Projects or Core 21 in General then I must pull out as I cannot afford the cost of wasted Electricity.
Sorry Team but Money is Money.
I don't blame you bcav.... for me it's been 2 weeks of total frustration and I'm maybe doing half of what you're doing. I'd like to thank you for pulling out all the stops and leading this MOP team by example.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 10:16:44
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M O P.....M O P....M O P!!!!! The finish line is at hand!!!!
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 10:25:46
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bcavnaugh
Once MOP reaches 200 Million I will be stopping to Fold for awhile.
If Stanford cannot correct the Problem with Core 21 P96xx and some P97xx Projects or Core 21 in General then I must pull out as I cannot afford the cost of wasted Electricity.
Sorry Team but Money is Money.
I don't blame you bcav.... for me it's been 2 weeks of total frustration and I'm maybe doing half of what you're doing. I'd like to thank you for pulling out all the stops and leading this MOP team by example.
I certainly understand your frustration and give you guys a lot of credit for sticking it out to the end. I'm curious of either of you have lowered the P2 Memory speed using Nvidia Inspector as suggested by Grandpa in this thread here: http://forums.evga.com/35560-Last-Stable-Driver-m2411736-p2.aspx#2414485 I don't have the luxury of owning new enough hardware to try this out on but am very curious about the issue.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 10:29:15
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Mekhed
bcavnaugh
Once MOP reaches 200 Million I will be stopping to Fold for awhile.
If Stanford cannot correct the Problem with Core 21 P96xx and some P97xx Projects or Core 21 in General then I must pull out as I cannot afford the cost of wasted Electricity.
Sorry Team but Money is Money.
I don't blame you bcav.... for me it's been 2 weeks of total frustration and I'm maybe doing half of what you're doing. I'd like to thank you for pulling out all the stops and leading this MOP team by example.
I certainly understand your frustration and give you guys a lot of credit for sticking it out to the end. I'm curious of either of you have lowered the P2 Memory speed using Nvidia Inspector as suggested by Grandpa in this thread here: http://forums.evga.com/35560-Last-Stable-Driver-m2411736-p2.aspx#2414485
I don't have the luxury of owning new enough hardware to try this out on but am very curious about the issue.
Yes for the last week.  One fix causes another failure and Core 21 (UNKNOWN_ENUM) just have to many issues. Downclocking seems to only fix P9704 from what I am seeing BUT I still see "Bad State detected... attempting to resume from last good checkpoint" on P97xx Projects. This also re-starts the Project so it can take 3 times longer to complete and it still can fail at 100%. And I also changed the PhysX to CPU and still no real help.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 10:30:47
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MOP comes up short short of finishing at the 1 PM update...54,046 points to go! Just goes to show you that every WU counts!
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 10:33:17
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I haven't tried that fix, but also seem to be one of the lucky few not affected by the issue.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 10:37:18
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Yes for the last week.
One fix causes another failure and Core 21 (UNKNOWN_ENUM) just have to many issues.
Downclocking seems to only fix P9704 from what I am seeing BUT I still see "Bad State detected... attempting to resume from last good checkpoint" on P97xx Projects.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing and again sorry for all the troubles you are having - I wish I had the ability to investigate the issue myself. Is it just me or does it seem that a surefire way to pretty much guarantee that Stanford comes out with a new WU that causes major issues one way or another is to run a contest?
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 10:49:01
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If you have client-type beta set, remove it. If you have advanced set, try removing it. If you don't have either, try adding advanced.
I have been running advanced and my work units have gone from 14 completed to 34. Try running advanced to see if it corrects the error or try removing it. Do not use client-type beta at all.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 10:53:13
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MOP comes up short short of finishing at the 1 PM update...54,046 points to go! Just goes to show you that every WU counts!
It will be OFFICAL next update!!!
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 10:54:38
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If you have client-type beta set, remove it. If you have advanced set, try removing it. If you don't have either, try adding advanced.
I have been running advanced and my work units have gone from 14 completed to 34. Try running advanced to see if it corrects the error or try removing it. Do not use client-type beta at all.
I am set to advanced and have been for the last Two Years! And I have tried removing it and now I have it back. Without it I get nothing but Core 21 P96xx
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 10:55:50
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I was running advanced until last night, see if that changes anything.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 11:01:18
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Grats on second place MOP
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 11:06:03
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I am set to advanced and have been for the last Two Years!
And I have tried removing it and now I have it back. Without it I get nothing but Core 21 P96xx
I understand. I also took my issue to folding forums, and although Bruce was less than pleasant at times, my issue was mysteriously fixed. I requested for users to post their issues on the thread I had there and I also requested the information be shared in a Google document so I could provide updates for him to pass on to Stanford, as we don't get the leisure of being noticed. https://foldingforum.org/...4&p=280730#p280730Feel free to share your information in a place where they can do something. It worked for me, whether it was a result of them or not. There is nothing anyone else can do here. The only thing we can do here, at this point, is guess. That doesn't seem to be pleasing you unfortunately, as we can't see what is happening on Stanfords end. Bruce can at least tell you if the units are being completed he someone else.
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Re: 2015 Time Zone Challenge
2015/11/16 11:23:13
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bcavnaugh
I am set to advanced and have been for the last Two Years!
And I have tried removing it and now I have it back. Without it I get nothing but Core 21 P96xx
I understand. I also took my issue to folding forums, and although Bruce was less than pleasant at times, my issue was mysteriously fixed.
I requested for users to post their issues on the thread I had there and I also requested the information be shared in a Google document so I could provide updates for him to pass on to Stanford, as we don't get the leisure of being noticed.
https://foldingforum.org/...4&p=280730#p280730
Feel free to share your information in a place where they can do something. It worked for me, whether it was a result of them or not.
There is nothing anyone else can do here. The only thing we can do here, at this point, is guess. That doesn't seem to be pleasing you unfortunately, as we can't see what is happening on Stanfords end. Bruce can at least tell you if the units are being completed he someone else.
"has no way to deal with unstable hardware" If this is what Stanford is saying then I would not waste my time with them. If this was the case then NO Projects or Cores would Complete.
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