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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/10/02 18:15:19 (permalink)
    Amazing car.  I'm not sure I'm in agreement with their definition of drivers car......I mean the GT-R is on that list and the Toyota/Scion/Subaru - 86/FR-S/BRZ isn't.  Yes the GT-R is a superior performance car in every way.....but it is not a "drivers car".

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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/10/02 18:20:36 (permalink)
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    Amazing car.  I'm not sure I'm in agreement with their definition of drivers car......I mean the GT-R is on that list and the Toyota/Scion/Subaru - 86/FR-S/BRZ isn't.  Yes the GT-R is a superior performance car in every way.....but it is not a "drivers car".


    So you think putting Prius tires on an under powered car so it will lose grip is the essence of a "driver's car"? If an American auto maker made such a car it would be the laughingstock of the auto industry.
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/10/02 18:29:38 (permalink)
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    Amazing car.  I'm not sure I'm in agreement with their definition of drivers car......I mean the GT-R is on that list and the Toyota/Scion/Subaru - 86/FR-S/BRZ isn't.  Yes the GT-R is a superior performance car in every way.....but it is not a "drivers car".


    So you think putting Prius tires on an under powered car so it will lose grip is the essence of a "driver's car"? If an American auto maker made such a car it would be the laughingstock of the auto industry.




    Yes, that is exactly what I said, and no it wouldn't.

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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/10/03 05:33:28 (permalink)
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    Amazing car.  I'm not sure I'm in agreement with their definition of drivers car......I mean the GT-R is on that list and the Toyota/Scion/Subaru - 86/FR-S/BRZ isn't.  Yes the GT-R is a superior performance car in every way.....but it is not a "drivers car".


    So you think putting Prius tires on an under powered car so it will lose grip is the essence of a "driver's car"? If an American auto maker made such a car it would be the laughingstock of the auto industry.




    Yes, that is exactly what I said, and no it wouldn't.


    Yeah, I'm going to go put some Prius tires on my Boxster S so I can have a better "drivers car' .
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/10/03 06:19:16 (permalink)
    I think its awesome they gave it the best driver for the year.  I can't exactly afford a Z28 but i'm looking to get myself a SS when the 6th gen's hit market.
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/10/03 06:34:15 (permalink)
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    I think its awesome they gave it the best driver for the year.  I can't exactly afford a Z28 but i'm looking to get myself a SS when the 6th gen's hit market.


    I love the current styling of the Camaro, hope they don't mess it up.
     
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/10/03 07:31:49 (permalink)
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    Amazing car.  I'm not sure I'm in agreement with their definition of drivers car......I mean the GT-R is on that list and the Toyota/Scion/Subaru - 86/FR-S/BRZ isn't.  Yes the GT-R is a superior performance car in every way.....but it is not a "drivers car".


    So you think putting Prius tires on an under powered car so it will lose grip is the essence of a "driver's car"? If an American auto maker made such a car it would be the laughingstock of the auto industry.




    Yes, that is exactly what I said, and no it wouldn't.


    Yeah, I'm going to go put some Prius tires on my Boxster S so I can have a better "drivers car' .




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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/10/03 07:36:39 (permalink)
    I wonder how much it costed Chevrolet to buy that spot.

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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/10/03 07:40:24 (permalink)
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    I wonder how much it costed Chevrolet to buy that spot.

    Seriously?

    The same as every other car in the test. A loaner car for the test.
     
    Did you even read the article?
     
     
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/10/03 09:48:01 (permalink)
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    I wonder how much it costed Chevrolet to buy that spot.


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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/23 18:25:36 (permalink)

     
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 00:57:59 (permalink)
    The GTR is what you buy when you're too much of a **Removed** to know how to row gears and be "one with your car."  The only thing that thing is missing is a Forza "Driving Line" to tell you when to brake and speed up lol
     
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 01:57:56 (permalink)
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    The GTR is what you buy when you're too much of a **Removed** to know how to row gears and be "one with your car."  The only thing that thing is missing is a Forza "Driving Line" to tell you when to brake and speed up lol




    dumbest thing I have read in a long time
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 03:26:53 (permalink)
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    The GTR is what you buy when you're too much of a **Removed** to know how to row gears and be "one with your car."  The only thing that thing is missing is a Forza "Driving Line" to tell you when to brake and speed up lol




    dumbest thing I have read in a long time


    Ya that was really stupid. I hate the car culture of the typical "car enthusiast" where guys have to be all macho being like if it aint stick or a V8 it aint cool. But the Forza lines cracked me up. I love that game best game ever.
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 04:01:51 (permalink)
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    The GTR is what you buy when you're too much of a **Removed** to know how to row gears and be "one with your car."  The only thing that thing is missing is a Forza "Driving Line" to tell you when to brake and speed up lol




    dumbest thing I have read in a long time


    Ya that was really stupid. I hate the car culture of the typical "car enthusiast" where guys have to be all macho being like if it aint stick or a V8 it aint cool. But the Forza lines cracked me up. I love that game best game ever.


    The V8 thing gets me all the time. I have a friend who thinks if it's less than 8 cylinders it's a  **Removed** car (should hear the crap I get over my 1.0L 3cyl). I used to argue with him that you don't need to burn 2 gallons of gas going to work, but I gave up after a few months and let him do his thing lol.
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 04:06:49 (permalink)
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    I wonder how much it costed Chevrolet to buy that spot.


    +1


    This is also the same editorial that gave the vw golf "car of the year" to a year that's still over a month away. They have zero credibility with me any more.


     
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 04:21:59 (permalink)
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    The GTR is what you buy when you're too much of a **Removed** to know how to row gears and be "one with your car."  The only thing that thing is missing is a Forza "Driving Line" to tell you when to brake and speed up lol




    dumbest thing I have read in a long time


    Ya that was really stupid. I hate the car culture of the typical "car enthusiast" where guys have to be all macho being like if it aint stick or a V8 it aint cool. But the Forza lines cracked me up. I love that game best game ever.


    The V8 thing gets me all the time. I have a friend who thinks if it's less than 8 cylinders it's a **Removed** car (should hear the crap I get over my 1.0L 3cyl). I used to argue with him that you don't need to burn 2 gallons of gas going to work, but I gave up after a few months and let him do his thing lol.

    LOL your friend is an idiot. Its really unnecessary to blow money just like that. But too many people even on this forum have that stupid mind set thinking its ok if it makes you happy. Ya you be happy in the short run but you would be dead ass broke in the long run which wont make you happy. I see and hear a lot of stories of morons who buy cars they cant afford and get them repossessed and have no car at all. To many "car enthusiast" buy cars they cant afford just to show off to people they dont even like and dont even know so they can say look at me I have this.  Then people like me and you can be like HAHAHAHAHAHAHA look at you now with no car at all. 
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 05:16:52 (permalink)
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    The GTR is what you buy when you're too much of a  **Removed**  to know how to row gears and be "one with your car."  The only thing that thing is missing is a Forza "Driving Line" to tell you when to brake and speed up lol




    dumbest thing I have read in a long time


    Ya that was really stupid. I hate the car culture of the typical "car enthusiast" where guys have to be all macho being like if it aint stick or a V8 it aint cool. But the Forza lines cracked me up. I love that game best game ever.


    You two just wait until all manufactures do away with manual transmissions, no no no, wait until all we get is self driving cars. I think he is spot on with the GTR. Beautiful car, stinking fast (because it's all wheel drive), but every reviewer says they feel disconnected from the road in this car. The only reason they like driving it is because of it's speed. The car needs no skill to drive hard. In the video they state it's about "the machine that best blends the emotion behind driving, the one that's most rewarding on the road and most engaging on the track". That's the main reason the Z/28 won as Best Driver's Car!
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 05:52:37 (permalink)
    It only won because the Mustang and a few other cars that would have embarrassed it are not in the testing. These embarrassing "Look we won" type of praises are meaningless when half the competition is not in it...

     
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 06:03:01 (permalink)
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    It only won because the Mustang and a few other cars that would have embarrassed it are not in the testing. These embarrassing "Look we won" type of praises are meaningless when half the competition is not in it...


    The Mustang? lololol and what model of Mustang would have beaten the the Z/28? One car that should have been there is the Corvette Stingray Z06, but it wasn't ready, they also invited others that declined and in the video they made the chicken sound when mentioning that part lol.
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 06:23:45 (permalink)
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    The GTR is what you buy when you're too much of a **Removed** to know how to row gears and be "one with your car."  The only thing that thing is missing is a Forza "Driving Line" to tell you when to brake and speed up lol
     
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 06:24:58 (permalink)
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    It only won because the Mustang and a few other cars that would have embarrassed it are not in the testing. These embarrassing "Look we won" type of praises are meaningless when half the competition is not in it...


    The Mustang? lololol and what model of Mustang would have beaten the the Z/28? One car that should have been there is the Corvette Stingray Z06, but it wasn't ready, they also invited others that declined and in the video they made the chicken sound when mentioning that part lol.


    The GT500 would beat it especially the Super Snake GT500. But they did not put it on the list because motor trend sucks and their opinions dont matter. Motor trend is like the mainstream for the car world like the Wall Street Journal is for news. They both are mainstream and we all know mainstream sucks and its bias. I think the car of the year should be a damn car that majority of middle class and low class people can buy and that is the most practical in everyday life. Not these mid range "super cars" that the majority of the masses cant ever own.  I am sure the majority of the people on these forums cant even afford a $45,000 sports car. At least Motor Trend got one thing right with the VW Golf being a winner of something. Its a great car I owned one myself(very first car by the way 2004 R32 Golf). Its pretty affordable practical sports car for the masses due to it being in mid 30Ks and its a hatchback.


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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 06:34:07 (permalink)
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    It only won because the Mustang and a few other cars that would have embarrassed it are not in the testing. These embarrassing "Look we won" type of praises are meaningless when half the competition is not in it...


    The Mustang? lololol and what model of Mustang would have beaten the the Z/28? One car that should have been there is the Corvette Stingray Z06, but it wasn't ready, they also invited others that declined and in the video they made the chicken sound when mentioning that part lol.


    The GT500 would beat it especially the Super Snake GT500. But they did not put it on the list because motor trend sucks and their opinions dont matter. Motor trend is like the mainstream for the car world like the Wall Street Journal is for news. They both are mainstream and we all know mainstream sucks and its bias. I think the car of the year should be a damn car that majority of middle class and low class people can buy and that is the most practical in everyday life. Not these mid range "super cars" that the majority of the masses cant ever own.  I am sure the majority of the people on these forums cant even afford a $45,000 sports car. At least Motor Trend got one thing right with the VW Golf being a winner of something. Its a great car I owned one myself(very first car by the way 2004 R32 Golf). Its pretty affordable practical sports car for the masses due to it being in mid 30Ks and its a hatchback.


    The GT500 would not have beat the Z/28, no way, no how. Super Snake is not a production car and I still doubt it would have beat the Z/28. You talk about a $45k mark, well the GT500 is $67k and I don't even want to know the price of a Super Snake.
     
    Once again "the machine that best blends the emotion behind driving, the one that's most rewarding on the road and most engaging on the track"., it was the Z/28.
     

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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 07:10:53 (permalink)
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    It only won because the Mustang and a few other cars that would have embarrassed it are not in the testing. These embarrassing "Look we won" type of praises are meaningless when half the competition is not in it...


    The Mustang? lololol and what model of Mustang would have beaten the the Z/28? One car that should have been there is the Corvette Stingray Z06, but it wasn't ready, they also invited others that declined and in the video they made the chicken sound when mentioning that part lol.


    The GT500 would beat it especially the Super Snake GT500. But they did not put it on the list because motor trend sucks and their opinions dont matter. Motor trend is like the mainstream for the car world like the Wall Street Journal is for news. They both are mainstream and we all know mainstream sucks and its bias. I think the car of the year should be a damn car that majority of middle class and low class people can buy and that is the most practical in everyday life. Not these mid range "super cars" that the majority of the masses cant ever own.  I am sure the majority of the people on these forums cant even afford a $45,000 sports car. At least Motor Trend got one thing right with the VW Golf being a winner of something. Its a great car I owned one myself(very first car by the way 2004 R32 Golf). Its pretty affordable practical sports car for the masses due to it being in mid 30Ks and its a hatchback.


    The GT500 would not have beat the Z/28, no way, no how. Super Snake is not a production car and I still doubt it would have beat the Z/28. You talk about a $45k mark, well the GT500 is $67k and I don't even want to know the price of a Super Snake.
     
    Once again "the machine that best blends the emotion behind driving, the one that's most rewarding on the road and most engaging on the track"., it was the Z/28.
     



    Ahhh yes way the GT500 will beat it. You just dont want to admit it. Face the facts Kram. The GT500 has 662Hp out of its 5.8L engine and 631 pounds of torque. Lets not forget that its supercharged and has 14 pounds of boost with that supercharger and the camaro aint getting any of it. The Camaro has a cute 505hp out a big ass 7.0L engine and 481 pounds of torque. The only advantage that the camaro has is that its a cute 30 pounds lighter and a bit thicker tires. O ya the gearing on the GT500 is a hell of a lot better too. So therefore the Camaro gets owned. Maybe thats why Motor Trend did not put it on the list because they know a lot out there can beat it like the GT500 and Dodge Charger Hell Cat.
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 07:31:10 (permalink)
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    It only won because the Mustang and a few other cars that would have embarrassed it are not in the testing. These embarrassing "Look we won" type of praises are meaningless when half the competition is not in it...


    The Mustang? lololol and what model of Mustang would have beaten the the Z/28? One car that should have been there is the Corvette Stingray Z06, but it wasn't ready, they also invited others that declined and in the video they made the chicken sound when mentioning that part lol.


    The GT500 would beat it especially the Super Snake GT500. But they did not put it on the list because motor trend sucks and their opinions dont matter. Motor trend is like the mainstream for the car world like the Wall Street Journal is for news. They both are mainstream and we all know mainstream sucks and its bias. I think the car of the year should be a damn car that majority of middle class and low class people can buy and that is the most practical in everyday life. Not these mid range "super cars" that the majority of the masses cant ever own.  I am sure the majority of the people on these forums cant even afford a $45,000 sports car. At least Motor Trend got one thing right with the VW Golf being a winner of something. Its a great car I owned one myself(very first car by the way 2004 R32 Golf). Its pretty affordable practical sports car for the masses due to it being in mid 30Ks and its a hatchback.


    The GT500 would not have beat the Z/28, no way, no how. Super Snake is not a production car and I still doubt it would have beat the Z/28. You talk about a $45k mark, well the GT500 is $67k and I don't even want to know the price of a Super Snake.
     
    Once again "the machine that best blends the emotion behind driving, the one that's most rewarding on the road and most engaging on the track"., it was the Z/28.
     



    Ahhh yes way the GT500 will beat it. You just dont want to admit it. Face the facts Kram. The GT500 has 662Hp out of its 5.8L engine and 631 pounds of torque. Lets not forget that its supercharged and has 14 pounds of boost with that supercharger and the camaro aint getting any of it. The Camaro has a cute 505hp out a big ass 7.0L engine and 481 pounds of torque. The only advantage that the camaro has is that its a cute 30 pounds lighter and a bit thicker tires. O ya the gearing on the GT500 is a hell of a lot better too. So therefore the Camaro gets owned. Maybe thats why Motor Trend did not put it on the list because they know a lot out there can beat it like the GT500 and Dodge Charger Hell Cat.


    The GT500 doesn't even beat the ZL1 in driving in all the comparisons I've seen. Would you like me to pull up the videos on that? The Z/28 would smack the GT500 back to the stone age where that car belongs. It's not on par with the ZL1 or the Z/28. All that horsepower doesn't mean squat if the car can't handle it with it's suspension and brakes. I could also bring up a video on the Super Snake where the brakes shredded on the car during testing. Shelby charges you $40k to turn a GT500 into a Super Snake and it freaking breaks! That car is junk compared to the ZL1 and Z/28. I don't know why you keep bringing the GT500 up, because of the HP? The best handling Mustang to date is the Mustang Laguna Seca and the ZL1 smacks that car around at the track. When Ford gets the GT350 on the road, then lets talk best driving car.
     
    Charger Hellcat? Come on a 4 door? It's a strait line wonder and that's it. Same goes for the Challenger Hellcat. Neither car could rule the road or track like a Z/28 can.
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 07:44:55 (permalink)
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    It only won because the Mustang and a few other cars that would have embarrassed it are not in the testing. These embarrassing "Look we won" type of praises are meaningless when half the competition is not in it...


    The Mustang? lololol and what model of Mustang would have beaten the the Z/28? One car that should have been there is the Corvette Stingray Z06, but it wasn't ready, they also invited others that declined and in the video they made the chicken sound when mentioning that part lol.


    The GT500 would beat it especially the Super Snake GT500. But they did not put it on the list because motor trend sucks and their opinions dont matter. Motor trend is like the mainstream for the car world like the Wall Street Journal is for news. They both are mainstream and we all know mainstream sucks and its bias. I think the car of the year should be a damn car that majority of middle class and low class people can buy and that is the most practical in everyday life. Not these mid range "super cars" that the majority of the masses cant ever own.  I am sure the majority of the people on these forums cant even afford a $45,000 sports car. At least Motor Trend got one thing right with the VW Golf being a winner of something. Its a great car I owned one myself(very first car by the way 2004 R32 Golf). Its pretty affordable practical sports car for the masses due to it being in mid 30Ks and its a hatchback.


    The GT500 would not have beat the Z/28, no way, no how. Super Snake is not a production car and I still doubt it would have beat the Z/28. You talk about a $45k mark, well the GT500 is $67k and I don't even want to know the price of a Super Snake.
     
    Once again "the machine that best blends the emotion behind driving, the one that's most rewarding on the road and most engaging on the track"., it was the Z/28.
     



    Ahhh yes way the GT500 will beat it. You just dont want to admit it. Face the facts Kram. The GT500 has 662Hp out of its 5.8L engine and 631 pounds of torque. Lets not forget that its supercharged and has 14 pounds of boost with that supercharger and the camaro aint getting any of it. The Camaro has a cute 505hp out a big ass 7.0L engine and 481 pounds of torque. The only advantage that the camaro has is that its a cute 30 pounds lighter and a bit thicker tires. O ya the gearing on the GT500 is a hell of a lot better too. So therefore the Camaro gets owned. Maybe thats why Motor Trend did not put it on the list because they know a lot out there can beat it like the GT500 and Dodge Charger Hell Cat.

    The 1LE posts faster lap times than the Pooper Snake, so I'm not really sure what you're getting at with your argument. All I see is a whole lot of boohoohoo'ing that Motor Trend found the Focus to be more fun to drive than a Mustang lol :p

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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 07:48:20 (permalink)
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    It only won because the Mustang and a few other cars that would have embarrassed it are not in the testing. These embarrassing "Look we won" type of praises are meaningless when half the competition is not in it...


    The Mustang? lololol and what model of Mustang would have beaten the the Z/28? One car that should have been there is the Corvette Stingray Z06, but it wasn't ready, they also invited others that declined and in the video they made the chicken sound when mentioning that part lol.


    The GT500 would beat it especially the Super Snake GT500. But they did not put it on the list because motor trend sucks and their opinions dont matter. Motor trend is like the mainstream for the car world like the Wall Street Journal is for news. They both are mainstream and we all know mainstream sucks and its bias. I think the car of the year should be a damn car that majority of middle class and low class people can buy and that is the most practical in everyday life. Not these mid range "super cars" that the majority of the masses cant ever own.  I am sure the majority of the people on these forums cant even afford a $45,000 sports car. At least Motor Trend got one thing right with the VW Golf being a winner of something. Its a great car I owned one myself(very first car by the way 2004 R32 Golf). Its pretty affordable practical sports car for the masses due to it being in mid 30Ks and its a hatchback.


    The GT500 would not have beat the Z/28, no way, no how. Super Snake is not a production car and I still doubt it would have beat the Z/28. You talk about a $45k mark, well the GT500 is $67k and I don't even want to know the price of a Super Snake.
     
    Once again "the machine that best blends the emotion behind driving, the one that's most rewarding on the road and most engaging on the track"., it was the Z/28.
     



    Ahhh yes way the GT500 will beat it. You just dont want to admit it. Face the facts Kram. The GT500 has 662Hp out of its 5.8L engine and 631 pounds of torque. Lets not forget that its supercharged and has 14 pounds of boost with that supercharger and the camaro aint getting any of it. The Camaro has a cute 505hp out a big ass 7.0L engine and 481 pounds of torque. The only advantage that the camaro has is that its a cute 30 pounds lighter and a bit thicker tires. O ya the gearing on the GT500 is a hell of a lot better too. So therefore the Camaro gets owned. Maybe thats why Motor Trend did not put it on the list because they know a lot out there can beat it like the GT500 and Dodge Charger Hell Cat.


    The GT500 doesn't even beat the ZL1 in driving in all the comparisons I've seen. Would you like me to pull up the videos on that? The Z/28 would smack the GT500 back to the stone age where that car belongs. It's not on par with the ZL1 or the Z/28. All that horsepower doesn't mean squat if the car can't handle it with it's suspension and brakes. I could also bring up a video on the Super Snake where the brakes shredded on the car during testing. Shelby charges you $40k to turn a GT500 into a Super Snake and it freaking breaks! That car is junk compared to the ZL1 and Z/28. When Ford gets the GT350 on the road, then lets talk best driving car.
     
    Charger Hellcat? Come on a 4 door? It's a strait line wonder and that's it. Same goes for the Challenger Hellcat. Neither car could rule the road or track like a Z/28 can.


    Kram just give it a rest your being ridicules. You keep trying to make excuses now. I too can bring videos up of camaros having such catastrophic failures so no point in pulling that card. Also dont anyone even try to do the stupid comparison with handling and how the camaro can beat the GT500 in a circuit race. Its a muscle car people and we are talking about straight line drag in which ALL muscle cars are meant for. So horsepower and torque does mean everything when your drag racing which I must reiterate, that is what muscle cars are meant for. I am sure everyone knows muscle cars suck at handling to so who gives a hoot about circuit racing in them. If you want to do circuit racing get a GTR or a Audi R8.  Maybe the reason Ford toned it down a bit and made a GT350 because they got tired in beating chevy's but all day long.   The Super Snake is not garbage your just mad that its that awesome! I admit that its a rip off to pay so much for a car like that but it sure does get the job done in whooping both chevy and dodge.
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 07:55:43 (permalink)
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    It only won because the Mustang and a few other cars that would have embarrassed it are not in the testing. These embarrassing "Look we won" type of praises are meaningless when half the competition is not in it...


    The Mustang? lololol and what model of Mustang would have beaten the the Z/28? One car that should have been there is the Corvette Stingray Z06, but it wasn't ready, they also invited others that declined and in the video they made the chicken sound when mentioning that part lol.


    The GT500 would beat it especially the Super Snake GT500. But they did not put it on the list because motor trend sucks and their opinions dont matter. Motor trend is like the mainstream for the car world like the Wall Street Journal is for news. They both are mainstream and we all know mainstream sucks and its bias. I think the car of the year should be a damn car that majority of middle class and low class people can buy and that is the most practical in everyday life. Not these mid range "super cars" that the majority of the masses cant ever own.  I am sure the majority of the people on these forums cant even afford a $45,000 sports car. At least Motor Trend got one thing right with the VW Golf being a winner of something. Its a great car I owned one myself(very first car by the way 2004 R32 Golf). Its pretty affordable practical sports car for the masses due to it being in mid 30Ks and its a hatchback.


    The GT500 would not have beat the Z/28, no way, no how. Super Snake is not a production car and I still doubt it would have beat the Z/28. You talk about a $45k mark, well the GT500 is $67k and I don't even want to know the price of a Super Snake.
     
    Once again "the machine that best blends the emotion behind driving, the one that's most rewarding on the road and most engaging on the track"., it was the Z/28.
     



    Ahhh yes way the GT500 will beat it. You just dont want to admit it. Face the facts Kram. The GT500 has 662Hp out of its 5.8L engine and 631 pounds of torque. Lets not forget that its supercharged and has 14 pounds of boost with that supercharger and the camaro aint getting any of it. The Camaro has a cute 505hp out a big ass 7.0L engine and 481 pounds of torque. The only advantage that the camaro has is that its a cute 30 pounds lighter and a bit thicker tires. O ya the gearing on the GT500 is a hell of a lot better too. So therefore the Camaro gets owned. Maybe thats why Motor Trend did not put it on the list because they know a lot out there can beat it like the GT500 and Dodge Charger Hell Cat.


    The GT500 doesn't even beat the ZL1 in driving in all the comparisons I've seen. Would you like me to pull up the videos on that? The Z/28 would smack the GT500 back to the stone age where that car belongs. It's not on par with the ZL1 or the Z/28. All that horsepower doesn't mean squat if the car can't handle it with it's suspension and brakes. I could also bring up a video on the Super Snake where the brakes shredded on the car during testing. Shelby charges you $40k to turn a GT500 into a Super Snake and it freaking breaks! That car is junk compared to the ZL1 and Z/28. When Ford gets the GT350 on the road, then lets talk best driving car.
     
    Charger Hellcat? Come on a 4 door? It's a strait line wonder and that's it. Same goes for the Challenger Hellcat. Neither car could rule the road or track like a Z/28 can.


    Kram just give it a rest your being ridicules. You keep trying to make excuses now. I too can bring videos up of camaros having such catastrophic failures so no point in pulling that card. Also dont anyone even try to do the retard comparison with handling and how the camaro can beat the GT500 in a circuit race. Its a muscle car people and we are talking about straight line drag in which ALL muscle cars are meant for. So horsepower and torque does mean everything when your drag racing which I must reiterate, that is what muscle cars are meant for. I am sure everyone knows muscle cars suck at handling too. Maybe the reason Ford toned it down a bit and made a GT350 because they got tired in beating chevy's but all day long.   The Super Snake is not garbage your just mad that its that awesome! I admit that its a rip off to pay so much for a car like that but it sure does get the job done in whooping both chevy and dodge.


    This thread is about the "Best Drivers Car", not straight line racing. What you brought to this thread has nothing to do with being the "Best Drivers Car". As for straight line performance the Challenger Hellcat eats up the GT500. Muscle cars aren't just about straight line drag racing anymore, hence the Mustang Laguna Seca, Mustang Track Pack, Camaro ZL1, 1LE and Z/28. Get with the times and out of the stone age bud. Stop crying that Ford can't compete on the the track with the Camaro.
     
    I'm also looking forward to the smack down the 2016 Camaro will lay on the new Mustang.
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    Re: 2014 Motor Trend's Best Driver's Car. 1st Place: Chevrolet Camaro Z/28 2014/11/24 07:57:22 (permalink)
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    It only won because the Mustang and a few other cars that would have embarrassed it are not in the testing. These embarrassing "Look we won" type of praises are meaningless when half the competition is not in it...


    The Mustang? lololol and what model of Mustang would have beaten the the Z/28? One car that should have been there is the Corvette Stingray Z06, but it wasn't ready, they also invited others that declined and in the video they made the chicken sound when mentioning that part lol.


    The GT500 would beat it especially the Super Snake GT500. But they did not put it on the list because motor trend sucks and their opinions dont matter. Motor trend is like the mainstream for the car world like the Wall Street Journal is for news. They both are mainstream and we all know mainstream sucks and its bias. I think the car of the year should be a damn car that majority of middle class and low class people can buy and that is the most practical in everyday life. Not these mid range "super cars" that the majority of the masses cant ever own.  I am sure the majority of the people on these forums cant even afford a $45,000 sports car. At least Motor Trend got one thing right with the VW Golf being a winner of something. Its a great car I owned one myself(very first car by the way 2004 R32 Golf). Its pretty affordable practical sports car for the masses due to it being in mid 30Ks and its a hatchback.


    The GT500 would not have beat the Z/28, no way, no how. Super Snake is not a production car and I still doubt it would have beat the Z/28. You talk about a $45k mark, well the GT500 is $67k and I don't even want to know the price of a Super Snake.
     
    Once again "the machine that best blends the emotion behind driving, the one that's most rewarding on the road and most engaging on the track"., it was the Z/28.
     



    Ahhh yes way the GT500 will beat it. You just dont want to admit it. Face the facts Kram. The GT500 has 662Hp out of its 5.8L engine and 631 pounds of torque. Lets not forget that its supercharged and has 14 pounds of boost with that supercharger and the camaro aint getting any of it. The Camaro has a cute 505hp out a big ass 7.0L engine and 481 pounds of torque. The only advantage that the camaro has is that its a cute 30 pounds lighter and a bit thicker tires. O ya the gearing on the GT500 is a hell of a lot better too. So therefore the Camaro gets owned. Maybe thats why Motor Trend did not put it on the list because they know a lot out there can beat it like the GT500 and Dodge Charger Hell Cat.


    The GT500 doesn't even beat the ZL1 in driving in all the comparisons I've seen. Would you like me to pull up the videos on that? The Z/28 would smack the GT500 back to the stone age where that car belongs. It's not on par with the ZL1 or the Z/28. All that horsepower doesn't mean squat if the car can't handle it with it's suspension and brakes. I could also bring up a video on the Super Snake where the brakes shredded on the car during testing. Shelby charges you $40k to turn a GT500 into a Super Snake and it freaking breaks! That car is junk compared to the ZL1 and Z/28. When Ford gets the GT350 on the road, then lets talk best driving car.
     
    Charger Hellcat? Come on a 4 door? It's a strait line wonder and that's it. Same goes for the Challenger Hellcat. Neither car could rule the road or track like a Z/28 can.


    Kram just give it a rest your being ridicules. You keep trying to make excuses now. I too can bring videos up of camaros having such catastrophic failures so no point in pulling that card. Also dont anyone even try to do the stupid comparison with handling and how the camaro can beat the GT500 in a circuit race. Its a muscle car people and we are talking about straight line drag in which ALL muscle cars are meant for. So horsepower and torque does mean everything when your drag racing which I must reiterate, that is what muscle cars are meant for. I am sure everyone knows muscle cars suck at handling to so who gives a hoot about circuit racing in them. If you want to do circuit racing get a GTR or a Audi R8.  Maybe the reason Ford toned it down a bit and made a GT350 because they got tired in beating chevy's but all day long.   The Super Snake is not garbage your just mad that its that awesome! I admit that its a rip off to pay so much for a car like that but it sure does get the job done in whooping both chevy and dodge.


    I must admit, there's a whole lot of "you're" missing from this post.
     
    But looking back at this, I must ask you...  wut, are you serious?
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