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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 13:40:22
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Yea I tried to be conservative with my PPD estimate not knowing what might happen with WU's or possible failed rigs, power outage and what not. Looks like I should have over estimate my PPD the way things are turning out so far for me. Sorry team wasn't trying to under bid on my PPD production.
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 13:56:35
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Yea wolf its happening on our team too, it made it look like bobc36 on our team was under producing since big advance units take a few days to complete. If that continues the team will lose points every other day on that member due to the way the new point system is setup this year. Troy should figure out a way to fix this.
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 14:03:06
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The way things was working for me before the New bigadv WU came out I was only getting about 400k PPD so actually I added a extra 50k to that since I was unsure how the new BA WU's would play out. Didn't know might quit getting them any day, but so far they are about all I have gotten thus far. Guess I could remove the beta flag and go back to getting nothing but 8101's to correct this.
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 14:34:02
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I also under estimated. I Thought I would be around 40k PPD. but i'm actually at about 60K PPD
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 14:54:45
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Same. here. I didn't realize just how much my new rig would do. And I am not even folding the extra stuff on my laptop. But what can you do.
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 15:21:45
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I think all any of us can do is take our best shot at the estimates and then hang-on for what really happens. I think Bobc36 (like Wolf and myself ) is a Bigadv Folder last I heard. Man those things can be so all over the place in points. I think we also have to allow for "life things" that happen that are unexpected. If a team member's points aren't coming together, then IMO it's up to the rest of the Team to step up if they can. I say if, because I have no idea what additional resources every team has at their disposal. Above all, let's just have fun and let the points fall where they fall. We have a 1 Billion point nut to crack as well, so overproduction is at least a "friend" to that goal!
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 15:31:10
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 16:01:32
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Allright, who gave the "moonshine" to the FAHaholics...you know they ain't supposed to have no firewater! 4,992,583.47 in points, currently in the #1 slot!
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 16:01:36
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It's hard for me to tell, my PPD can be from 50k to 100k. Just boils down to the WU's. Edit: backs up to post 278, Nice Rig Tex.
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 19:15:04
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What moonshine  ?
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 21:11:00
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FoldCo now at #2!
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 22:52:56
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Question, could someone explain what's going on here? I'm just a tad over 100k above my guesstimated production PPD with a loss of almost 600k, yet Horvat is almost 200k over his with no loss of any points?
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 23:25:35
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I believe it is based on the % over the estimate, not the amount over. And that contest PPD is after being throttled. Based on your picture, you are about 280k ppd over your estimate if you weren't throttled. That said, there may be some point system changes to even out some fairness. The pimps, for example, are getting throttled despite being well behind the rest of the teams.
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 23:36:19
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Sorry I really don't understand how this point system works. Looking at others PPD it looks like your allowed about 30k above the projected PPD you thought you might turn a day. Any thing above that 30k you get nothing or a big drop.
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 23:42:37
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The points system is confusing, especially since I, like many, cannot understand the written formula. However, I am not seeing that overproducing hurts your team, it just doesn't help much after a certain point. As far as I can tell, every point you produce does increase your team's chances of winning.
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/03 23:47:39
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If you think your points aren't correct ask troy to take a look at it, I did that and they were able to correct it. Not sure if a few others don't have the formula applied correctly or not.
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/04 01:34:43
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if it was like last year ...if your team is underproducing - then no one is throttled on your team until you hit that mark the bottom teams should be able to make up lost production from members that are off...because they are underproducing Im over producing...I was over by 40k PPD yesterday now Im under my mark by 10k PDD and it could have been worse darn run of WU's...got nothing but low producers - a lots of new beta (and no 762x's) I'll be in that boat again today - by the looks of it troy fix foldco chart - team Total Contest points is floating point (and not formated)
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/04 06:15:22
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It's way early, but I'm encouraged by the first 3 days of performance for our overall Folding Team. We could pull 1 Billion off if we can "stick to our guns"! Ooops, that statement probably has Madrias drooling for a chicken neck about now. We tally-whacked [H]'s points yesterday too by a couple Mil.  I know, it's first of the month, but we'll take every positive move we can get to lay waste to the elusive 1-Bil milestone. Over-produce, do what you hafta and let's run that number to ground ahead of the 31st!
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/04 06:28:54
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Nope Tex he's asleep at the moment, though seeing the mention of guns might have him work on a bigger cannon   . It's very wet and rainy where I am with some flash flooding, has been much worse further south last month and so far into this one. All is okay at my house so far though, except the rain on the roof is really loud.
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/04 12:23:57
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I see that I have been hit for 25k points because im going over. My avg ppd is about 8k over my estimate. but i see two guys that seem to have lost over half the points they earned. drbricks and CarldXPC
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/04 12:31:21
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Can I have the PPD modified? After the client update it seems the points are higher and now I have a production around 12000PPD.
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/04 13:15:25
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I suspect that more accurate ppd would have led to the teams looking a lot different at kick off. I reported correctly, then "borrowed" a 570, I expect when that starts to produce I will suffer in the same manner. All folding is good :)
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/04 13:19:03
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No you can't after the deadline rules are rules - no changing or modifying after the contest starts that's what brought in the problems from last year you read the rules and were aware of making sure of your Estimate before hand and we gave ample time for people to get estimates and refine/re-submit them prior to the contest drbricks and CarldXPC are both 10% over there posted PPD if I remember right last year it's starts cutting in after that I have teammates on my team in similar boats even tho my team is underproducing you don't see me complaining - them's the rules and formula remember nature and luck come into play as well as your team's drive to overcome teams ahead of your could go down due to weather or rigs going down(a number of issues pop into my mind here- like poor WU's, wife turning rig off.kids, family,cat....include Mad paying you a visit) Now just have fun and see if your team can pull it out
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/04 13:59:59
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In years pasts events, I would get annoyed that teams would have members who's estimate was way under reported and then during the event would be 2 or 3 times that estimate. So I like the idea of keep things fairer by capping the overages. When I reported my estimate for this year, I had no plans of adding hardware... I reported a very conservative PPD based on what I thought I would be doing this month. Well I ended up getting a Titan and building another office PC for my staff. I'm in process of building another PC for another staff person. So in the end I'm going to be way out producing my estimate. Since we are capping the points for the contest, I'm not going to feel bad about it... the additional points I'm going to produce is going to help us get to 1 Billion Points this month and keep the heat on [H]. In the end we are all on the same team and this contest is just for fun, right?!?!?!
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/04 14:02:47
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Thats what im going to do. its all about increasing the teams ppd and breaking 1 billion this month. ill do all i can to increase mine. maybe some more overclocking!!!!!
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/04 14:25:50
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Well I plan on hitting the lottery on Wed. Ill build a server that will make grandpa over at H look like he's barely folding. Then my PPD estimate will be way off
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/04 14:53:51
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements
2013/03/04 16:14:34
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I'm still wondering if Mad is that guy on the insurance commercial.
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