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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/05 15:35:54 (permalink)
All of this angst and drama is why I would prefer to simply see randomly-assigned teams, no balancing, and random selection of winners that has nothing to do with what team they were on but rather just that they fully participated.
Never mind, it's only the third or fourth time I've said it.

  
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/05 16:14:20 (permalink)
Also, for anyone noticing the stats have 'stalled', it's an issue on Stanford's side. 
 
http://foldingforum.org/v...c.php?f=18&t=23853
 
My stats history is showing the same numbers for at least the last 5 hourly pulls.
 
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/05 16:14:21 (permalink)
Now Punchy, that is is a scary suggestion. That random selection process sure as hell would land me on the Insaniacs Team where they'd like to have their way with me.  I'm fairly sure they'd take away my chicken neck too and leave me defenseless.
 
I'd not heard your suggestion before and I actually thought you were playin' with all that stuff....
 
I know, let's declare tomorrow an angst-free day and just have fun! 



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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/05 16:19:18 (permalink)
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I'm fighting on, some stomach bug has gotten me badly. Hopefully Mad doesn't get the idea to use me as a toxic weapon .

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Hazmat Suits people!!!

I'm fairly sure from that description and having caught it from my grandsons about 3-times, that you have one of those memorable flavors of Noro virus.  It's one the most contagious viruses that you can encounter and I think the Queen just had it too.  It's OK to shake her hand (longs as you wash afterwards), just don't kiss her on the mouth next time. 



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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/05 16:32:41 (permalink)
Yes i just noticed this. There were no stats given in the last update when i checked. That was for all teams. Might be a bigger problem


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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/05 16:46:05 (permalink)
texinga

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Wow, what a response. Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not

Sorry about that. I actually like it. Very "Fall out" like 

  I had not made that connection (to Fallout) but yeah that looks familiar!  I missing the "wasteland", my custom underground bunker, power-armor suit and of course all that delicious weaponry. 

PS:  Forgot to say that I like your idea a few posts above for the contest. 

 
Yeah, I hadn't seen the Fallout-ness of it until Afterburner pointed it out I approve though.

 
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/05 16:58:46 (permalink)
I'm just going to shut up and fold... Might actually get some ironing in. 


 
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/05 17:05:54 (permalink)
texinga

Now Punchy, that is is a scary suggestion. That random selection process sure as hell would land me on the Insaniacs Team where they'd like to have their way with me.  I'm fairly sure they'd take away my chicken neck too and leave me defenseless.

I'd not heard your suggestion before and I actually thought you were playin' with all that stuff....

I know, let's declare tomorrow an angst-free day and just have fun! 

Oohhhh Yeah! We'd pick all the good parts away *evil grin*. Awh *takes chicken neck* Oh you want it, here *pulls her hand with it back away* Naw I'm just kidding, here you go, *offers and swiftly pulls her hand away again*. Hmm I think you're gonna have to dance for it Tex [insert evil Mad laugh here].

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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/05 19:25:03 (permalink)
Madrias

Afterburner

I have an idea...

Keep the formula "Exactly" as it is now for the month... Just add another column in each teams tracker that says "Overachievers" that collects all the overage for that team.

That "Overachievers" columns' purpose is to maintain focus on the big picture while the "Calculations" do what they do.

Same thing with the main contest page. Make it a secondary race. This way all types of enthusiasm is captured/satisfied. 

The prize could simply just be a simple signature pin.

Bottom line... Two races... One as we are running now, the other aiming right at the 1 Billion goal. Promoting "Both" the winning team and the winning spirit of EVGA...


I like this idea!  It shall be my goal to be the second or third biggest overachiever on the Insaniacs Team.

Now that's the spirit!
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/05 20:06:30 (permalink)
Ugh!  These 12 hour units are killing me.  They cut my PPD majorly and take massive amounts of time.  If I wanted my desktop tied up doing one unit for a long time, I'd do -bigadv.  At least then I'd make more than 50k PPD.


 
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/05 22:41:25 (permalink)
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Has anybody seen the revamp to the Stanford main folding site? Looks a lot more fancy now.
http://folding.stanford.edu/

 
More attractive, maybe more folders would join, and also noticed a client update. In February was 7.2.9 and now it's 7.3.6.

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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 00:08:18 (permalink)
Keep dropping my WU's on my 560Ti  Stupid project 7660 never completes for me.

EDIT: Did it again at 3%. Anybody else have this issue? Seems to be the only unit I drop... I know my OC is stable, I've tested it thoroughly
post edited by ShadowSplicer - 2013/03/06 01:07:24

 
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 06:46:41 (permalink)
Isn't 7660 still in beta, if so drop the beta flag.
The other WU's that are out of beta are worth more PPD anyways.
Drop your OC a little. I've had no problem with 7660.

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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 09:04:55 (permalink)
I'm not using any beta flags or advmethod though.
I defaulted the clock on it, same result next time I got a 7660 :/

 
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 11:03:42 (permalink)
ShadowSplicer

Keep dropping my WU's on my 560Ti  Stupid project 7660 never completes for me.

EDIT: Did it again at 3%. Anybody else have this issue? Seems to be the only unit I drop... I know my OC is stable, I've tested it thoroughly


done a bunch of 7660 on my 560 classifieds. I have them at their stock settings and have no problems.

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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 11:30:42 (permalink)
Any one else having issues getting SMP work units?
 
One of my rigs took almost 2 hours to get a new work unit, multiple attempts to connect to server...
 


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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 12:14:58 (permalink)
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I'm not using any beta flags or advmethod though.
I defaulted the clock on it, same result next time I got a 7660 :/

Try using the -advmethods flag, that should get you different work units.
for v7 that would be client-type advanced
post edited by TheWolf - 2013/03/06 12:20:05

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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 12:48:48 (permalink)
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I haven't seen that behavior before. Have you tried just pausing the units and then starting them up again after you're done without actually shutting down FAHControl?

 
Pausing first then quit the app works. Now I have to wait for another 14K+ credit WU to finish and update to version 7.3.6.

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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 14:19:52 (permalink)
YES, never had this issue before.
 
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Any one else having issues getting SMP work units?

One of my rigs took almost 2 hours to get a new work unit, multiple attempts to connect to server...



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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 16:28:26 (permalink)
*Drive by with "It was a good day" booming out the windows*
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 16:31:43 (permalink)
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Keep dropping my WU's on my 560Ti  Stupid project 7660 never completes for me.

EDIT: Did it again at 3%. Anybody else have this issue? Seems to be the only unit I drop... I know my OC is stable, I've tested it thoroughly

done a bunch of 7660 on my 560 classifieds. I have them at their stock settings and have no problems.


Flushed my drivers, maybe that was the problem. Seems like the only logical problem to me.
nine3o

Any one else having issues getting SMP work units?

One of my rigs took almost 2 hours to get a new work unit, multiple attempts to connect to server...


Yeah, same here. Woke up from a nap (quite sick from pneumonia) to check on my rig, and my SMP was just sitting there trying to connect for an hour.

TheWolf

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I'm not using any beta flags or advmethod though.
I defaulted the clock on it, same result next time I got a 7660 :/

Try using the -advmethods flag, that should get you different work units.
for v7 that would be client-type advanced

What would that do to point values? I'd rather find a fix for my one unit problem instead of getting massive units.

 
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 17:33:32 (permalink)
3/6/13
  • In regard to the contest options presented here, a final decision will be made by Friday.  After reading all the feedback provided and much consideration for what is both fairest and most engaging/entertaining for all participants I am currently leaning toward leaving the core of the contest as is.  As several have pointed out, it is the fairest to all and the contest as designed is not inherently broken. 
  • That being said, however, the contest it can leave those that are overproducing a bit unmotivated to push themselves to the limit.  Two ideas that arose from the feedback provided are a separate category for a month long unrestricted team points competition (which team can produce the most raw folding output ignoring contest points), as well as an over-producers competition (which team's individuals have the most total overproduction).  Either of these options would be a secondary competition that play out along side the main Folding M@Dness contest.  AB has been so kind as to create a poll to determine which of these two options is preferred, please take the time to vote in it here.   
  • As always, any additional feedback is both welcome and encouraged.


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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 18:20:30 (permalink)
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Gratuitous

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Keep dropping my WU's on my 560Ti  Stupid project 7660 never completes for me.

EDIT: Did it again at 3%. Anybody else have this issue? Seems to be the only unit I drop... I know my OC is stable, I've tested it thoroughly

done a bunch of 7660 on my 560 classifieds. I have them at their stock settings and have no problems.


Flushed my drivers, maybe that was the problem. Seems like the only logical problem to me.
nine3o

Any one else having issues getting SMP work units?

One of my rigs took almost 2 hours to get a new work unit, multiple attempts to connect to server...


Yeah, same here. Woke up from a nap (quite sick from pneumonia) to check on my rig, and my SMP was just sitting there trying to connect for an hour.

TheWolf

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I'm not using any beta flags or advmethod though.
I defaulted the clock on it, same result next time I got a 7660 :/

Try using the -advmethods flag, that should get you different work units.
for v7 that would be client-type advanced

What would that do to point values? I'd rather find a fix for my one unit problem instead of getting massive units.

Its should get better PPD projects that actually don't fail. If your failing your getting nothing.
To many failed WU's you lose your bonus points for SMP. I had found using the advance flag
that I was getting 80xx and 762x work units and none of the 766x projects.
I haven't folded GPU in a few days so I'm not sure if it has changed but was still working for me
two days ago. I've gotten where I don't like to post these finds openly, since every time I do
PG makes changes to counter act.
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 18:32:05 (permalink)
TheWolf

Isn't 7660 still in beta, if so drop the beta flag.
The other WU's that are out of beta are worth more PPD anyways.
Drop your OC a little. I've had no problem with 7660.

7660 wu are not beta.Ran 46 of them on 1 560ti non failed 42 on other 560ti non failed.I run tracker with no flags.




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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 19:40:04 (permalink)
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Its should get better PPD projects that actually don't fail. If your failing your getting nothing.
To many failed WU's you lose your bonus points for SMP. I had found using the advance flag
that I was getting 80xx and 762x work units and none of the 766x projects.
I haven't folded GPU in a few days so I'm not sure if it has changed but was still working for me
two days ago. I've gotten where I don't like to post these finds openly, since every time I do
PG makes changes to counter act.


I know that dropping units is bad I mean I'd rather fix my issue than throw off my regular folding. But as Wolf said above, it looks like I'm just going to swap to advmethod.
Thanks guys!

 
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 19:42:50 (permalink)
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Isn't 7660 still in beta, if so drop the beta flag.
The other WU's that are out of beta are worth more PPD anyways.
Drop your OC a little. I've had no problem with 7660.

7660 wu are not beta.Ran 46 of them on 1 560ti non failed 42 on other 560ti non failed.I run tracker with no flags.

That's why I fazed it as a question since I was unsure if it had been moved to normal or advanced?
I just know I quit getting them with the advance flag and went back to getting 762x and some 80xx WU's.
Could just be down to luck of the draw. Edit: I was using v7 didn't seem to work with v6 client.
I think sometimes the client version used has something to do with it and what you get.
Never could get the QRB 8057 with v6 but as soon as I went to v7 they came one right after another.
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 20:02:36 (permalink)
Hey guys....6 days in and we're 2 million points ahead of [H] for the month!  Lets keep the pressure on! 


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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 20:28:20 (permalink)
troy8d

Hey guys....6 days in and we're 2 million points ahead of [H] for the month!  Lets keep the pressure on! 

Nice!
 
And mid next week I plan on bringing on more to my fold as I've for the first time a 2nd computer to bring on, it's a bit of a frankenstein and noisy but it'll do.
 
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Re:2013 Folding M@Dness Announcements 2013/03/06 23:18:00 (permalink)
OH... MY... GOD... Just shut up and fold.




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