RickC
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/07 13:46:58
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What about:
1). No penalty for overproduction.
2). A 25% bonus in Contest Points for anyone who comes within 10% of their prediction. Resets every day. Thus, if you predicted 100 PPD and end a day between 90 and 110 points, you actually get 1.25 x your prediction or 125 points that day.
Thus, people who underestimated are not punished, but people who accurately estimated still have a chance to boost their points and keep up with the overachievers.
Might be best saved for a future contest. The 25% bonus could be a good incentive for people to be more accurate in their predictions.
-Rick
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/07 14:21:14
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When a folder has 2x their predicted PPD, something is majorly wrong.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/07 14:30:40
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P.S..... I think it would be fun to have two winners... One that ends up closest to their "Predicted Production" and the other being the max producers. But that is just me... May not be a good idea...
Unfortunately, this would mean the 1st place and 8th place team. Incentivizing a race to the bottom directly contradicts some major goals of the contest. 
I don't get why you always assume that someone giving an accurate and honest prediction to their production is a negative thing... Without it, you'll never have anything more than a glorified point race. Now that is a great thing for overall team production, but as we have found yet again kills anything that even resembles a real competition in the first few days.
There will be some fun races and jockeying for the lower spots, but the the team that pulls the farthest out ahead will be the one that had more than one person grossly understate their production potential.
Not really sure what you're talking about here, and it seems you are misunderstanding what I am saying. My point was simple: ALL teams are above their reported PPD - therefore a race to be most accurate would be a contest to see who could lower their production to coincide with what they predicted.
Not really sure what you can't understand... The attempt to make balanced teams around numbers that are grossly inaccurate is a exercise in futility. I thought the attempt to modify the results to make it a closer race was noble, but in the end it was dropped.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/07 14:33:11
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Sorry fellas.. I meant my last idea as a fun one.. Not to create a conflict. And just so you know Troy, I understood what you meant.. Both are over 200PPD...
Just trying to recognize those teams and players that did predict accurately is all. Heck I am double my predicted production and I thought it would only do 9k a day not 18k...
For others. Please FTLOG do not take what I just said in a negative light.
Predictions when not in a contest are very different than when in it. Add that to (Raises hand in major guilt) when the contest starts and you want to help reach the goal of 700/30... Well you get the idea.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/07 14:44:48
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Wasn't taken as negative, just explaining why it might not be the best application here though. I do like a lot of your other ideas we were talking about though. 
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/07 15:31:19
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RickC
What about:
1). No penalty for overproduction.
2). A 25% bonus in Contest Points for anyone who comes within 10% of their prediction. Resets every day. Thus, if you predicted 100 PPD and end a day between 90 and 110 points, you actually get 1.25 x your prediction or 125 points that day.
Thus, people who underestimated are not punished, but people who accurately estimated still have a chance to boost their points and keep up with the overachievers.
Might be best saved for a future contest. The 25% bonus could be a good incentive for people to be more accurate in their predictions.
-Rick
Interesting idea but the time frame would need to be changed to something greater than a day, for smp and bigadv folders. In my case running 1 rig that drops a bomb every 3 days I would never get a bonus if the numbers were calculated on a day's production - I'm either at 0% or 300% if my prediction was perfect.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/08 16:46:41
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Is there a contest concensis on the JeffreyHam folda thon? I haven't heard anything , and wasn't sure what to do, I made a comitment to the team, before I heard about Jeff, and wasn't sure what to do. I understamd a large group of people will be folding under his name Friday. Also as far as the PPD thing, I intended to fold what I promised, But when I saw we couldn't keep up, I fired up another I-7 and two 580's, sorry if that is upseting anyone, just trying to keep us from droping, we seem to be holding around 4th. If I had the power didtribution, I have two more systems to bring to bear, but if I fire them up, I blow the breaker.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/08 18:48:11
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Is there a contest concensis on the JeffreyHam folda thon? I haven't heard anything , and wasn't sure what to do, I made a comitment to the team, before I heard about Jeff, and wasn't sure what to do. I understamd a large group of people will be folding under his name Friday.
Also as far as the PPD thing, I intended to fold what I promised, But when I saw we couldn't keep up, I fired up another I-7 and two 580's, sorry if that is upseting anyone, just trying to keep us from droping, we seem to be holding around 4th. If I had the power didtribution, I have two more systems to bring to bear, but if I fire them up, I blow the breaker.
No need to apologize man... Do what you feel is best. I pulled rescourses over to the Jeffryham-athon. And added resources for the contest that allows me to keep pace with previous production. That said, many folks are only running for one day with what they have. No extra resourses available... It really depends on what you would like to do.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/09 16:33:52
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its nice to see all the teams almost neck and neck in points, this is one of the most balanced contests we have had so far.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/09 17:43:09
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its nice to see all the teams almost neck and neck in points, this is one of the most balanced contests we have had so far.
Save the #1 team pulling like an F1 car it really is a close race! It's going to come down to the last minutes to see where this ends up. 
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/09 18:26:11
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I have two more systems to bring to bear, but if I fire them up, I blow the breaker.
I know exactly what you mean! ahahhahaha better get an extension cord and go over to the neighbors house!!!
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/09 18:57:16
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Lol I have an extention cord ran into another room in the house since the breaker cant hansle my pc under full load and the ac unit in the window. One day I need to fix it right untill then I just step over the cord everyday however it does hurt when u step on the thing barefoot and don't notice it there ;/
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/10 00:11:57
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Lol I have an extention cord ran into another room in the house since the breaker cant hansle my pc under full load and the ac unit in the window. One day I need to fix it right untill then I just step over the cord everyday however it does hurt when u step on the thing barefoot and don't notice it there ;/
I also have an extension cord on my sig rig. My wife does not like it. I just pretend I don't hear her and and simply tell her she looks beautiful!
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/10 01:53:31
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What about:
1). No penalty for overproduction.
2). A 25% bonus in Contest Points for anyone who comes within 10% of their prediction. Resets every day. Thus, if you predicted 100 PPD and end a day between 90 and 110 points, you actually get 1.25 x your prediction or 125 points that day.
Thus, people who underestimated are not punished, but people who accurately estimated still have a chance to boost their points and keep up with the overachievers.
Might be best saved for a future contest. The 25% bonus could be a good incentive for people to be more accurate in their predictions.
-Rick
Interesting idea but the time frame would need to be changed to something greater than a day, for smp and bigadv folders. In my case running 1 rig that drops a bomb every 3 days I would never get a bonus if the numbers were calculated on a day's production - I'm either at 0% or 300% if my prediction was perfect.
you are already getting a bonus for running bigadv in the first place, you want another bonus? ... you could switch over to SMP, which would give you the (non-existant, too late to implement) bonus and make your output a little more predictable.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/10 06:00:21
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you are already getting a bonus for running bigadv in the first place, you want another bonus? ... you could switch over to SMP, which would give you the (non-existant, too late to implement) bonus and make your output a little more predictable.
I don't see any correlation between a bonus for an accurate PPD prediction (which prediction is critical for a fair balanced contest) and the way in which those points are generated. By your logic, only people running uniprocessor or GPU work deserve an accuracy bonus.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/10 07:31:19
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I have to agree with punchy. Any credit(s) given for deciding to fold for FAH should not be detrimented because 'one decides to enter' a folding contest. To be fair in a contest, the rules should be designed to accommodate all (ALL) contest entrants. . Contests are not the venue to remedy PG (FAH) mistakes in PPD awarding. JIMO, YMMV. Sean
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/10 13:13:56
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anyone else having issues see the stats? No stats show for my on the contest page right now
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/10 14:10:47
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anyone else having issues see the stats? No stats show for my on the contest page right now
Ok for me. Lots of times I get blank or N/A but then refreshing the page brings them back.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/10 14:14:32
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Thats from it updating usually. Refresh a few times or a minute later lols
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/10 14:52:54
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Does anyone know if the stats will be reset after the qualification round? Or continue where they left off?
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/10 22:21:32
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So another day and Team EVGA was close 28 million for the day. Ended up the first full week of folding at 191million.
Anyone know if this on target for the 700 million goal?
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/10 22:27:58
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We have average a little under 22.6 million points per day to meet that 700 million mark. At this rate, we are on pace to crush that goal. Based on our average, we should be able to surpass 800 million. Time for a bigger goal?
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/11 07:40:15
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Does anyone know if the stats will be reset after the qualification round? Or continue where they left off?
They will reset to 0 for the head-to-head rounds.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/11 07:42:08
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sajinor
We have average a little under 22.6 million points per day to meet that 700 million mark. At this rate, we are on pace to crush that goal. Based on our average, we should be able to surpass 800 million. Time for a bigger goal?
The only time to set a new goal is AFTER you reach the first one.... A lot can happen and it's best not to count your chickens before they hatch.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/11 08:35:15
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Does anyone know if the stats will be reset after the qualification round? Or continue where they left off?
They will reset to 0 for the head-to-head rounds.
And THEN we release all our armory! MUhahahahahahahahahahaha
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/11 08:55:00
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Sweeeet news ... So we might still have a chance ;)
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/11 09:33:34
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We have average a little under 22.6 million points per day to meet that 700 million mark. At this rate, we are on pace to crush that goal. Based on our average, we should be able to surpass 800 million. Time for a bigger goal?
The only time to set a new goal is AFTER you reach the first one....
A lot can happen and it's best not to count your chickens before they hatch.
Yep, I was getting a little cocky there. But it would be nice to beat the goal by as much as we can.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/11 13:12:06
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When will be the reset day? Or is that a mystery just like how they started this contest.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/11 15:08:02
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I know after the reset, I'll be ready to bring some pain from what I have. May not be much this round, but I can kick up some rigs and make a mess on my end.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements
2012/03/11 18:07:14
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How long is the second round go for? Just trying to plan out my power usage.
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