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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 04:15:01 (permalink)
I'm not trying to suggest anything other than shyte happens. I try to roll with it.
Today is our 3rd day in a row of record high heat and tomorrow will be #4. But it's happening everywhere so no excuses.
Aside from my initial shock of your output, I wanted you to keep going and count it as long as you owned the equipment. You said you did so case closed for me.
I hope there is a format for the final week that keeps all the teams involved and motivated.



                                    
        

 
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 04:33:07 (permalink)
yodap
Today is our 3rd day in a row of record high heat and tomorrow will be #4. But it's happening everywhere so no excuses.

 
actually we got 3 inches of snow here... 0.o

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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 04:34:59 (permalink)
The only reason I went to team captains was for some transparancy. they take the message to their members and it was to fix the issue once and for all.
 
I was getting messages after dip's increase just like shykal and mad. Understandable due to the production increase. but after the squabble that we had earlier and people almost leaving, I figured go to the captains get it straighten out once and for all.. Dips folding points were made in all honesty the same as everyone else there should be no reason for him to apply a cap (and at least make a race for us).
Secondly if Dip was to produce those points for team EVGA for the 800 goal it was rightly fitting the cap come off for dips contribution to the team.
 
That lead to new round of hub hub 
sorry to whole Folding team for that one
 
as far as Im concerned it now put to rest Once and for all
whether dips points counts count is up to him now
Im prepared to take last but I'll go down folding as hard as I can to make the 800 or 900 goal 
Lets everyone get out and do the same - I don't want to see slacking off (unless either you have hardware failures or have economic issues) 
 
Next contest will be interesting to see what we've learned
 
Just Get out there and fold like Dickens. Lets hit that 800 and strive for 900
Get the troops out. post in the general forums to get new members and old members to come back
if we want to get 900 we need some miracle recruitment push to do this
 
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Isn't that what contest are for to get new members and to stimulate those of us folding to go out and get them?
So lets at least try to do this as a team  
 
 
 
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 05:42:14 (permalink)
Contest Goals:
Raise awareness about folding and attract members to folding.
Fold more than 700 million points for Team 111065 for the month of March 2012.
Reach 25 million points in a 24 hour period for Team 111065.
 
 
That's what this contest was about until we all decided 800 mill was was better to strive for .
That's the point make people fold hard accept the challenge and go at it head on for the science for the cure and for goals set, be it the 700 - 800 mil of this contest or each persons personal goal.
 
 
And just because....
..... FOOD FIGHT!
*throws cream pie at XZ and Diplomacy* (for no other reason than it's fun )
 
 

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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 05:50:09 (permalink)
Now if I can convince everyone to stay onboard and not jump ship we might salvage everything.
 
Im gonna stay...probably in next contest too
 
if any hard feelings come from me I apologize right now
I just want people to stay, fold, and learn. Then we grow as a team.
 
So MAD and shykal I hope you do stay
wouldn't be the same without you
 
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bad enough shykal gave me cream pie....now the madness comes
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 06:07:54 (permalink)
As I said in chat a few moments ago: Im staying. Not sure on future contests yet. Mad and I have been talking. Lets just say that he and I take a break on things that get us riled up so that we cool off and look at things clearer.
 
We always talk things over/through.
 
Though I can't speak for Mad his decision will be his in the end.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 07:07:56 (permalink)
We definitely achieved the ultimate meaning of the contest!
 
Definition of MADNESS

1: the quality or state of being mad: as a : rage b : insanity c : extreme folly d : ecstasy, enthusiasm

2: any of several ailments of animals marked by frenzied behavior; specifically : rabies






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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 07:15:08 (permalink)
Shykal

As I said in chat a few moments ago: Im staying. Not sure on future contests yet. Mad and I have been talking. Lets just say that he and I take a break on things that get us riled up so that we cool off and look at things clearer.

We always talk things over/through.

Though I can't speak for Mad his decision will be his in the end.

 
I am sure many are in the same boat.  Personally, I will be doing the same.  While this type of contest had worked quite well in the past, it needs to be re-evaluated in light of recent changes to F@H as well as changes to our team. 


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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 07:51:52 (permalink)
i am staying,the way i see it. is i made a commitment to the team when i signed up.so i will be here to the end.



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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 07:51:52 (permalink)
I've decided....
 
 
 
 
That I'll stay.  I might cut back for a while, but I'll stay.  Not sure about contests for a while, but I'll still put out points for EVGA.


 
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 08:25:33 (permalink)
Contest's do not matter for me in that,
 
they do not change my core reasons for folding
no matter how, why, what, where and who wins or not.
 
What they do for me is motivate me to fold more for the cause
and make me more excited and happy to fold.
 
No contest will change my mind to fold or not.
I told my wife that I was going to take 2 rigs offline to save money. Her answer: absolutely not.
 
JMO/YMMV
  
  EDIT; the stopping of 2 rigs would have been after contest btw
 and put c in exited 
 
 
 
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 09:11:58 (permalink)
I enter these contests for the fun factor. I fold 24/7 for the science and do not see that changing at all I did have to go from running 5 rigs down to 2 because of the cost But with hardware upgrades i am close to what I used to produce Lets just all get along and fold our a**es of for the cure !!!!

   
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 10:08:38 (permalink)
I completely agree tanner2 and O-S-G.    I did not mean to suggest I was reconsidering my decision to fold - the reasons I do that are completely independent of contests and it would be silly to let that get in the way.  I don't alter my folding much during a contest other than to try to squeeze every last PPD out when possible.
 
I do contests for the fun it brings to the community and hopefully draws attention to folding in general.  My concern is if contests do more harm than good and in general are not fun for those participating or it draws negative attention to folding over things that matter very little.


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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 10:30:09 (permalink)
Don't Knock yourself over the issues this time troy
there were plenty of issues caused by many of us
 
in the end we all group hug anyways
 
one thing to note that has been discussed is rules squarely detailed up front along with any formula
 
and like other have said rules changes midstream have to end
 
once those are in place we shouldn't have quarrels
we signed up for THOSE rules and agreed to them...no different than your house mortgage you agreed to or your car loan
 
secondly how can boinc teams  race and have contest and folders can't... this also goes to the CC
 
seems crunchers in boinc have no problem having races including [h] (and don't fight each other)
 
but when you go to the folding side it's the teams behavior is like the chimp   -tear each other apart
we can't talk - we can't agree on formula - we stomp and threaten leaving
 
is the points chasing the issue or is it the prizes?
 
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 10:39:39 (permalink)
I havent been keeping tabs of what is on going but I will share this. I love the contests here. I used to fold for NCIX but once I saw the community here and the contests I really jumped on board. Also, for contests I really do alter my folding. I try and be as frugal as I can month to month. I usually dont use my gpus to fold and I usually stop after I get my bucks. I have even taken it further with our smart meters going in and only folding during off peak times. When a contest is going on I usually do max output 24/7. My wife can even tell when our computer room jumps a few degrees. She will make some comment about how there must be a folding contest going lol. She knows me too well.
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 10:55:57 (permalink)
@XZ - there is only so much I can accomplish in this regard considering at the moment I am trying to finish up grad school as well as holding down a couple jobs.  I wonder how much a factor this has been.  I feared from the outset that people would have unrealistic expectations coming into this contest.


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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 11:05:40 (permalink)
troy8d

@XZ - there is only so much I can accomplish in this regard considering at the moment I am trying to finish up grad school as well as holding down a couple jobs.  I wonder how much a factor this has been.  I feared from the outset that people would have unrealistic expectations coming into this contest.

 
Troy,
 
Dont be afraid to delegate and ask for help. Asking for help is the smartest thing anyone can do because it shows that you know your own boundaries. I'm sure people, including myself, would step up if you asked. Just make sure you have the final word, and everything is approved by you before it becomes law.
 
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 11:23:46 (permalink)
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troy8d

@XZ - there is only so much I can accomplish in this regard considering at the moment I am trying to finish up grad school as well as holding down a couple jobs.  I wonder how much a factor this has been.  I feared from the outset that people would have unrealistic expectations coming into this contest.


Troy,

Dont be afraid to delegate and ask for help. Asking for help is the smartest thing anyone can do because it shows that you know your own boundaries. I'm sure people, including myself, would step up if you asked. Just make sure you have the final word, and everything is approved by you before it becomes law.

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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 13:26:42 (permalink)
You  know? troy has done quite a lot of stuff and dealt with a bunch of unpleasant stuff so I was wondering if we start discussions on a gift prize for troy
 
Im willing to anti up $$ for parts - specifically we put together a rig setup - and surprise him as to what it is
 
and his penalty is for him to post a build page showing the complete put together of the rig
from beginning to end - photos of the rig, him, his den, and whatever troy wishes to add to that build page
 
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 13:43:22 (permalink)
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@XZ - there is only so much I can accomplish in this regard considering at the moment I am trying to finish up grad school as well as holding down a couple jobs.  I wonder how much a factor this has been.  I feared from the outset that people would have unrealistic expectations coming into this contest.

Hey Troy... No need to feel bad at all. If a person asked me what did not work that is one thing. But as far as a contest this is one of the funnest. Even with the drama or interpretation of there being some drama. You did exceptional on this and I praise you for your efforts. This is a really creative contest and worth a lot more than the praise I can offer. 
 
Keep up the good work and let the normal attrition sort things out.
 
As far as me personally. I have had a handful of items happen in F@H that left a bad taste in my mouth. None of those relating to members here or our internal contests.  They range from Stanford's changes and how they continue communicate to last years Chimp Challenge. So I am I bit on the sour side when things are not transparent and/or not clear.
 
For me I was spending to much time dealing with the issues than I was working on the reason many of us fold. Something had to change and I was seeing a lot of good honest people have enough with Folding and leaving and or shutting down completely. Instead of crying about it I decided to make a change and offer that change to our community. Well we all know how successful that is being as we are now #22 in the world on DC Vaults chart that includes all of the huge successes we have with F@H and all the BOINC's (Crunching) they track. 
 
From where I sit, we have significant talent and desire to help. We just need to channel that energy into what has worked for us in the past. Working as a team with one goal. In other words K.I.S.S....
 
 
 
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 13:52:16 (permalink)
As the round nears its end, it seems we've got some really close races on our hands here.  And if not for ana3mic's untimely hardware failure, I suspect we'd have 4 very tight races!  Some of these are going to come right down to the wire - no holding back now! 
 
 


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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 14:10:54 (permalink)
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As the round nears its end, it seems we've got some really close races on our hands here.  And if not for ana3mic's untimely hardware failure, I suspect we'd have 4 very tight races!  Some of these are going to come right down to the wire - no holding back now! 



 
Indeed. Also Nice addition to the folding page. I like to see the goal and how much we have produced so far. Keep it going team! 

 
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 14:34:17 (permalink)
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 Indeed. Also Nice addition to the folding page. I like to see the goal and how much we have produced so far. Keep it going team! 

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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 14:53:50 (permalink)
It appears the stats have not updated since 10AM this morning.  Unfortunately the issue appears to lie on drougnor's end and we will have to wait for him to get home to resolve it.  Fortunately, he should be home soon.


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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 15:00:46 (permalink)
troy8d

It appears the stats have not updated since 10AM this morning.  Unfortunately the issue appears to lie on drougnor's end and we will have to wait for him to get home to resolve it.  Fortunately, he should be home soon.

Suuuuuuuuure.... I blame Captain Turnip. He had something to do with it...
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 15:10:07 (permalink)
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troy8d

It appears the stats have not updated since 10AM this morning.  Unfortunately the issue appears to lie on drougnor's end and we will have to wait for him to get home to resolve it.  Fortunately, he should be home soon.

Suuuuuuuuure.... I blame Captain Turnip. He had something to do with it...

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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 15:36:26 (permalink)
ROFL

   
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 15:57:10 (permalink)
Troy8d?, you made ppd required to make that 800,000,000 points, but you havn't made a current ppd? :).. would be nice :)


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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 17:07:29 (permalink)
Should I go fill drougnor's PM box again?


 
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Re:2012 Offical Folding M@dness Announcements 2012/03/21 17:11:29 (permalink)
Madrias

Should I go fill drougnor's PM box again?

 
Haha No!.
 
Poor D.

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