10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE?

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2016/11/02 09:04:27 (permalink)
I am going to blame Bethesda's clunky old Creation engine on this one, but I just wanted to verify if anyone here has the same issue?
I disabled SLI just to rule that out as a problem.
When Gsync and Vsync are on I get stutters in random areas (usually outside) that are reproducible when walking through the same area again after the stutter stops.
When Gsync is on and Vsync is off, I get no stutters but the animals get physics wonked so I see a lot of hopping Wolfs, Deer, etc...
When I turn Gsync off, the game locks me to 60 fps eventhough my screen is set to 165 Hz in Nvidia control panel and for some reason, when panning around the world things just don't look as smooth as you'd expect from 60 fps.
 
So those are pretty much my choices, I tried going into the Skyrimpref file and turned Vsync on and off there manually but it has the same effect as just doing so from Nvidia control panel.
 
With Gsync on I usually get around 100 to 120 fps and everything looks great and smooth but the occasional stutters are just frequent enough to really be annoying.
 
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    badboy64
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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/02 09:15:40 (permalink)
    Yes I do have stuttering problem and have to disable it when playing the game.  Sometime after a hour or so of game play the game wants to drop fps. Then I have to save the game and exit to fix it.

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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/02 09:26:55 (permalink)
    So you turn Gsync off and leave Vsync on and just deal with it that way?
     
    Our systems are very similar, what temps are you getting on your CPU with the 4.3 overclock and at what voltage are you running?  My idle temps are usually in the upper 30s and during gaming upper 50s to low 60s.

     
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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/02 10:26:32 (permalink)
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    So you turn Gsync off and leave Vsync on and just deal with it that way?
     
    Our systems are very similar, what temps are you getting on your CPU with the 4.3 overclock and at what voltage are you running?  My idle temps are usually in the upper 30s and during gaming upper 50s to low 60s.


    I am getting between 24C to 29C idle depending on room temp. and full around 50C to 65C at full load with 1.35v. Use nvidia inspector to set your frame rate limiter but you have to control panel and turn off Vsync by adding profile for the game first. Search google and will tell you how to do it. I turn off Vsync also and get a constant 60fps.


    post edited by badboy64 - 2016/11/02 11:17:58

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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/02 11:10:11 (permalink)
    I saw another guy having these issues and he locked in his framerates to either 99 or 89 max and it fixed it. 

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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/02 11:14:20 (permalink)
    I'm glad you guys are using 'gsync' monitors... It's the next item on my list.

    Unfortunately, I can't offer much in ways of help here since I just use the regular v-sync which works fine at a constant 60fps w/ Skyrim...

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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/02 13:34:09 (permalink)
    I have severe stuttering, as well.  I disable G-Sync and just run the game locked to 60 FPS with 120 Hz ULMB instead.  This is the first game I've run that has issues with G-Sync.  Even Fallout 4 and Diablo III run with no issues for me.
     
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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/02 15:28:52 (permalink)
    The problem is gsync is not 100% unless you cap your frames like 10 frames below your monitor refresh. Nvidia has know this for some time and neer fixed instead relied on vsync to hide this problem but it also adds vsync lag and in syrim case vsync stutter. 
    And yes for those who don't know vsync on with gsync works though the gsync range acts as frame buffer for gsync. Vsync on gsync on is garbage.  Gsyn should be used on its own and capping frames. Latency is much better even more so at lower frames.
     
    So yea use nvidia profile inspector and cap your frames 10 frame below refresh and dont use vsync.
    If this fixes your problem then contribute to that thread nvida needs to fix this problem.
     
     
     
    https://forums.geforce.co...sync-not-working-100-/
     
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    Also if the game locks at 60hz with vsync there is a good chance it doesn't support higher than 60hz so no matter what anything over 60fps wont be smooth even with gsync. Nvidia has refresh set to highest available IDK if that will override limit or not.
    post edited by demo23019 - 2016/11/02 15:45:19
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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/02 16:49:46 (permalink)
    I do turn Vsync on along with Gsync enabled for games where my computer exceeds the 165 hz my Monitor can handle.  Case in point is Star Wars Battlefront which caps itself to 200 fps which is still too much for my screen. With Vsync off I get screen tearing when I exceed 165 fps which is why I turn it on.  Using Vsync for me is on a case by case basis, I just fiddle with it and use whatever gives me the best results.
     

     
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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/03 03:21:51 (permalink)
    Turn vsync on in global settings along with gsync then disable vsync in game, this worked for me on a number of games.

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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/03 03:30:31 (permalink)
    Turn off GSYNC and use ULMB. There is definitely an issue with Skyrim SE edition while using GSYNC. Turn on ULMB under NVidia control panel, and then set VSYNC to adaptive. This will fix the issue.
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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/03 05:55:18 (permalink)
    It's not hard to cap the frame rate to say 143fps using evga's precision x.

    Though my newest asus swift 27" monitor runs at 165hz so I don't go over that with the newest games so far as sli don't work for bf1 or titanfall 2 so no issues. Don't have skyrim to try.

      
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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/03 09:52:42 (permalink)
    I am thinking that I am going to be stuck with 60 fps because from what I read in forums specific to the game is that the physics engine goes wonky at anything over 60 fps.... pitty, really, game looks so much smoother at 100+ fps.

     
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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/03 10:29:01 (permalink)
    I don't have a 1070 or 1080 but I do have a 980 ti and I had this the first time I fired up Skyrim SE I turned off vsync in the Nvidia control panel now everything is smooth this is not the first game I've had to do this to Witcher 1&2 would run like it was only doing 10 FPS with vsync on with my Asus Swift running Gsync.

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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/03 10:38:20 (permalink)
    Skyrim's (original and new) physics rely upon 60FPS/60Hz.
     
    Some folks have been successful running a little higher, but the game engine physics is coded around 60Hz.
     
    If I were you I'd cap the game at 60FPS and play - either with VSYNC or GSYNC.

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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/03 13:24:08 (permalink)
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    Turn vsync on in global settings along with gsync then disable vsync in game, this worked for me on a number of games.


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    Re: 10xx series users with Gsync monitors, do you have stuttering issues with Skyrim SE? 2016/11/03 19:00:04 (permalink)
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    Turn vsync on in global settings along with gsync then disable vsync in game, this worked for me on a number of games.


    Turning on Vsync in Nvidia control panel negates the game's vsync capabilities. Doesn't matter if you flip it on or off within game, you have forcefully activated it for all games (if it's on in global settings.)

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