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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 12:19:33 (permalink)
Nope.  They are totally different price and performance categories.
 
There is only 1 time in recent memory where I felt ripped off.  The 780.  I bought the 780 and then in 2 months the 780 price dropped by almost $200CAN and the 780 ti came in at the price I paid for the 780 with way more performance.  Yes, technically the releases were 6 months apart but if you don't keep up on your tech news.... 
 
Although it didn't effect me personally, the buyers of the original Titan X (Those that didn't need 12GB vram for whatever reason) must have been choked when the 980 ti custom cooled units came out and beat the Titan X for significantly less money.
 
But again, this is not the case with the 1080 and the Titan X(P)
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 12:27:54 (permalink)
I am a bit disappointed, I was one of the people who joked about it last night saying like " Looks like more overtime and neglecting the family again.. " haha I upgraded from 2 x 780s saving while I skipped the 900 series hoping to finally get into a top tier card. I would have waited for the Titan but from Nvida's history they waited longer than 2 months before releasing the titan. So I figure get 2 x 1080s now and I should be happy (Except waiting for my Damn HB bridge). I had 2 x 1080s and on water before launch week was over. But My honest Opinion on Waiting it took me 3 years to save up what I had to drop a ridiculous amount on an outrageous build. Yes it sucks that the Titan Came out as it did but If I kept waiting and waiting I would have never ended up building a rig because it is just with any type of Tech. Tech will get out date the moment you put in your rig and play your first game. I actually anticipated doing 3 way SLI with the 1080s until Nvidia completely dropped that idea. 
 
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 12:30:58 (permalink)
I was never interested in any Titan model, the price was always out of my budget and i'm more than happy with my 1080. I would feel bad if it was priced similar to the 1080 or if it was a 1080TI costing around $750 but that's not the case. I was almost certain the Titan would be coming this year but since i know they always price it around $1000 i didn't hold back on buying my 1080.
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 12:44:33 (permalink)
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If you bought an EVGA 1060 or 1070 or 1080 in the first place, just use the step up program. You've got 90 days from the date of purchase (not sure what the ruling is for those that pre-ordered).

Problem solved for the HAVE TO HAVE THE LATEST, FASTEST, AND RIGHT NOW crowd.

http://www.evga.com/support/stepup/

Shoot as it is now if you bought a 1080 thats not the founders edition you can probably sell for the same as you bought it for or more and go drop another 700 dollars on the x to be outdated with a ti card that 700 less in 6 months :}

   
   
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 12:46:25 (permalink)
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Honest opinions. Do you feel duped by Nvidia?

No. They announced the 1080, I looked up what EVGA offered, I hit F5 a bunch of times on Newegg while watching nowinstock.net, paid the advertised price, received the card, and it's everything they said it was. Where's the dupe?
FattysGoneWildWould you have waited for Titan instead of buying the 1080? For me. The 1080 was the most expensive card I have ever owned or paid for.

No. I was originally going to buy a 1070 to help come to grips with my new 4K monitor. After looking at benchmarks and reviews and whatnot, I decided that the 1070 wouldn't be enough to really make me happy, and why spend that kind of money and still not be happy? So I went with the 1080 SC from EVGA. It was a stretch, and my wife wasn't well pleased by it, but that's about as high as I could have gone. $1200 for a video card for my computer wasn't politically possible as a married man with responsibilities.
 
The $649 I paid for the 1080 SC was the second time in my life I've paid that much for a video card. The first time was for the EVGA Geforce 8800gtx. That was totally worth it! I think the 1080 SC is totally worth it too.

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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 13:04:29 (permalink)
1080 owners have nothing "outdated".
1080 owners have similar results in performance across all flavors of Brands and Versions.
1080 owners REJOICE in the awesome sauce that is Pascal.
The majority of 1080 owners just play video games. There is nothing a 1080 cant handle @ 1440p or less.
 
There is always something around the corner. My 1080 replaced 2x 680s.  And it will serve me well for many years to come.
 
 
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 14:37:20 (permalink)
2x the price for 25% more performance?  I'm not too upset.
 
I'll be upset if the 1080Ti comes out before I get my 1080 step up though..

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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 14:40:22 (permalink)
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2x the price for 25% more performance?  I'm not too upset.
 
I'll be upset if the 1080Ti comes out before I get my 1080 step up though..

Actually I hope the 1080ti comes out in the next 60 days, so I can be sorely tempted to step up to it from my 1080 SC. 

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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 15:22:25 (permalink)
I don't think the new Titan will be as popular because it is an nvidia exclusive. 
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 15:32:47 (permalink)
And this is exactly why I never buy bleeding edge... because you bleed. Or at least your wallet does. I am sure I won't miss the extra few frames a second on games and bragging rights would only last a few weeks. I can't think of a single thing on this planet that depreciates it's value faster than a video card yet they are treated like some ultra special Pokemon that everyone has to have right now. 
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 16:11:12 (permalink)
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as soon as you buy computer hardware it's out of date..
 
*shrug*

I find this to be a non-issue from my perspective.
 


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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 18:27:06 (permalink)
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1080 owners have nothing "outdated".
1080 owners have similar results in performance across all flavors of Brands and Versions.
1080 owners REJOICE in the awesome sauce that is Pascal.
The majority of 1080 owners just play video games. There is nothing a 1080 cant handle @ 1440p or less.
 
There is always something around the corner. My 1080 replaced 2x 680s.  And it will serve me well for many years to come.
 
 


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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 18:48:07 (permalink)
I don't feel "duped" at all, because I wasn't foolish enough to try and buy a product that first comes out. It's like a black Friday sale (except it's not a sale), and people are all rushing in soaking up every product available, to the point that no more are in stock. So, now the people who are waiting feel bumbed out. yeah, well... I hate to break the news for you, but you did it, you were the one that was in a hurry to get your hands on a brand new 1080... The smart guys knew to wait a few months, and they will be able to conveniently purchase their cards in a few months (when they are in stock) because we're not in a hurry. Better to not be a in a hurry, than to rush in to see you can't get what you wanted, that really stings [better luck next time]... If I broke any ice, I do apologize, my bad.
 
Did Nvidia get the last laugh? They sure did, because they know millions of people will actually fight over the last one in stock.
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 19:04:40 (permalink)
Not really. I upgraded from a 580, so this will keep me current for a while. That said, I always saw my 1080 as a holdover card before HBM anyway.

700 is a lot for a holdover card, 1200 is INSANE. Especially considering with the clocks compared to a 1080 seem quite a bit lower. I bet it doesn't even win all benchmarks across the board (which is why I think NVidia isn't actually talking about how it compares to the 1080).

I paid 650 for my 1080, that means for 85% more money I can get 40% more cores for a whopping 20% performance increase? At this point wouldn't getting two 1080s still be a better use of your money?
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 19:35:41 (permalink)
The scary part of the new Titan X is no specs on double precision/logical processing cores, and are they just doing the meh version of async shaders/compute? No HBM2. For the price not really wroth it at a 1200 msrp that card better have a full workstation backbone, and kill anything thrown at it for at least 3-5 years on a single card. Those that get the card with only about a 25% performance increase over the 1080 should feel duped if they make that mistake.

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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 20:00:05 (permalink)
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Not really. I upgraded from a 580, so this will keep me current for a while. That said, I always saw my 1080 as a holdover card before HBM anyway.

700 is a lot for a holdover card, 1200 is INSANE. Especially considering with the clocks compared to a 1080 seem quite a bit lower. I bet it doesn't even win all benchmarks across the board (which is why I think NVidia isn't actually talking about how it compares to the 1080).

I paid 650 for my 1080, that means for 85% more money I can get 40% more cores for a whopping 20% performance increase? At this point wouldn't getting two 1080s still be a better use of your money?




I was thinking it was 50% more cores but I was a little off so it may only be about 25-27% faster like donta is saying and not 30-33% faster like the old titan x vs 980.

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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 20:11:47 (permalink)
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Because not everyone is in the know and constantly keeps up with technology. Everything was rumor and Titan was possibly expected at the earliest by people. Holiday time. 




 
If you are buying $700 and $1200 parts and not keeping up with things, you are wrong.




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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 20:12:43 (permalink)
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Not really. I upgraded from a 580, so this will keep me current for a while. That said, I always saw my 1080 as a holdover card before HBM anyway.

700 is a lot for a holdover card, 1200 is INSANE. Especially considering with the clocks compared to a 1080 seem quite a bit lower. I bet it doesn't even win all benchmarks across the board (which is why I think NVidia isn't actually talking about how it compares to the 1080).

I paid 650 for my 1080, that means for 85% more money I can get 40% more cores for a whopping 20% performance increase? At this point wouldn't getting two 1080s still be a better use of your money?




I was thinking it was 50% more cores but I was a little off so it may only be about 25-27% faster like donta is saying and not 30-33% faster like the old titan x vs 980.



You are ignoring clock speed. Even their claimed perf of 11TFlops vs 9TFlops is only 22%. I don't know why people are expecting amazing performance. If it crushed the 1080, they would have bragged about it.


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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/22 21:34:01 (permalink)
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Not really. I upgraded from a 580, so this will keep me current for a while. That said, I always saw my 1080 as a holdover card before HBM anyway.

700 is a lot for a holdover card, 1200 is INSANE. Especially considering with the clocks compared to a 1080 seem quite a bit lower. I bet it doesn't even win all benchmarks across the board (which is why I think NVidia isn't actually talking about how it compares to the 1080).

I paid 650 for my 1080, that means for 85% more money I can get 40% more cores for a whopping 20% performance increase? At this point wouldn't getting two 1080s still be a better use of your money?




I was thinking it was 50% more cores but I was a little off so it may only be about 25-27% faster like donta is saying and not 30-33% faster like the old titan x vs 980.



You are ignoring clock speed. Even their claimed perf of 11TFlops vs 9TFlops is only 22%. I don't know why people are expecting amazing performance. If it crushed the 1080, they would have bragged about it.




The Titan is not entirely just for consumers, meaning "gamers", which is why they have obviously advertised it differently. It's aimed for a much wider audience than just gamers. Honestly I find no need for even gamers (solely for those that game, and do not do any complex graphic design) to even look at the Titan. A total waste if you buy it to only game with, and foolish.
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/23 00:47:21 (permalink)
If benchmarks show it really performs well against a 1080, then I'll likely be getting two Titans.. I don't have an issue with spending the money as long as I'm paying MSRP prices. I just want something available when I want it available.. And as of right now, thanks to Nvidia, EVGA GTX 1080 (SC or FTW cards) are never in stock.. Just need to make sure EK will make a water block for it..

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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/23 03:39:58 (permalink)
The "tech" is already outdated when it finally makes it out to consumers.
 
Your GTX 1080 performance doesn't lower. I don't see the problem here.
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/23 04:09:03 (permalink)
Actually no.
 
It was evident that NV would come out with a new Titan sooner or later, and i was sure from the beginning that i wouldnt get one.
In fact, i just ordered my 1080 FTW after i heard of the new Titan, it somehow made me even more confident in buying a 1080.
 
The new Titan (imho) doesn't even deserve its name. The first Titan was the full featured Chip of its generation, this one is not.
It lacks a good amount of shaders, it complety lacks 64bit precision (in hardware), it has less than expected RAM (12 not 16 GB),
it settled with GDDR5x again, instead of HBM2 and it is considerably slower clocked than 1080s are. Oh, of course it still will be
faster than 1080s, but not as fast as it could have been.
 
And than Nvidia is charging 1200$ U.S. for it before taxes - even for Nvidias already high prices for everyting else, this is rediculous.
 
Comparison:
The EVGA GTX 1080 FTW costs $679.99 in the U.S. Over here in europe with VAT and the usual bump its €769.99. Still expensive, but OK for me.
 
The new Titan X costs $1,200 in the U.S. and will very likely be somewhere between €1,400 and €1,500 over here. Nope, nope, nope and nope.
 

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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/23 04:22:38 (permalink)
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The "tech" is already outdated when it finally makes it out to consumers.
 
Your GTX 1080 performance doesn't lower. I don't see the problem here.


Yeah if someone spends $2400 before tax on a pair of titan P vs $1300-1400 for a pair of 1080s I don't think that is too much of an issue especially when the titan owner only enjoys a 20-25% performance advantage over 1080 owners.

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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/23 07:09:05 (permalink)
I just upgraded from a 980 Ti Classified to a 1080 FTW 2 weeks ago. Personally, I'm not interested in the Titan but when a 1080 Ti comes out I hope to upgrade again and stick with that card for at least 2-3 years. 
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/23 13:37:00 (permalink)
not as bad as waiting 2 months on step-up list and not knowing if TITAN X will be released before i even get my 1080...
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/23 14:05:31 (permalink)
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I just upgraded from a 980 Ti Classified to a 1080 FTW 2 weeks ago. Personally, I'm not interested in the Titan but when a 1080 Ti comes out I hope to upgrade again and stick with that card for at least 2-3 years. 


 
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/23 14:27:16 (permalink)
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I just upgraded from a 980 Ti Classified to a 1080 FTW 2 weeks ago. Personally, I'm not interested in the Titan but when a 1080 Ti comes out I hope to upgrade again and stick with that card for at least 2-3 years. 


 
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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/23 14:36:57 (permalink)
Nvidia is planning on launching Volta next year, so Pascal will be over with rather quickly.

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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/23 14:40:20 (permalink)
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Nvidia is planning on launching Volta next year, so Pascal will be over with rather quickly.


I was hearing 2018.

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Re: 1080 outdated in less then 2 months how does that make you feel? 2016/07/24 08:35:06 (permalink)
i upgraded from gtx 480, you really expect me to wait 2 more month's for an upgrade ? even the 1080 hydro aint out yet, so i am glad i did't wait for that.

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