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I want to make sure I have this set properly. I tried for the first time using Precision. Enable framerate target and setting it to 144 which is my max refresh rate for my monitor. Vsync off in game. Does this sound about right? Would it introduce any kind of lag or effect fps drops? I noticed Precision reporting 135 fps. I did not see it ever go past that. I think its a good thing if I read correctly. Suppose to set it just a bit below actual refresh rate. Was noticing some tearing going above 144 fps. This is my first G-Sync monitor I ever owned. Be nice! 

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/21 22:34:31 (permalink)
    If 144fps is your desired frame-rate target, then yes. Make sure the checkmark (or the box) is selected, and then hit the apply button. The frame-rate target is a great feature, even if it is implemented in other software.
     
    I like using this feat on Batman Arkham Knight, setting at 40fps. 30fps is too low, but 40fps is perfect, and brings a lot more realism to the game.

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/21 23:08:06 (permalink)
    Ah Arkham Knight. Good example for what I am about to ask. I have the game set to 90 fps in the options. Which is the highest it goes. Now since I set my target to 144 in Precision. Would it cause any weird issues or might I actually lose performance going this route? 

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/22 01:01:26 (permalink)
    Nothing will happen except Arkham Knight will run at 90fps or lower. If you have the FPS CAP on Precision X set lower than 90fps, though, then the game will run at what you have set Precision X to, despite Arkham Knight set at 90FPS.
     
    Precision X will over ride the FPS within game. So, if the game's FPS runs at 120fps, but you have the FPS locked within Precision X at 60 FPS, then the game will run at 60FPS because of the settings on Precision X. It will not make the game run at 144fps if the game has a locked fps setting.

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/22 01:09:04 (permalink)
    By doing this in Precision. Does it add input lag or make the card run less powerful? Not to its full potential? Kinda like turning on vsync kinda thing? But I use g-sync. 

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/22 01:12:38 (permalink)
    Non that I have seen. You'll be good, trust me, especially with GSYNC. Precision X is awesome with GSYNC

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/22 05:58:45 (permalink)
    G-sync will mostly be of benefit if your frame rate stays under your monitors refresh rate, so no need to pin your frame
    rates any higher. I found in some cases depending on the frame cap used, things got real choppy and unplayable. To
    save myself time and hassle, i just leave V-Sync off and never set frame caps anymore, G-Sync is a marvelous thing ! 
    You might want to set V-Sync off globally in NVCP tho, sometimes G-Sync ignores V-Sync settings in-game.
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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/22 07:05:10 (permalink)
    With Gsync, leave vsync off and any frame caps in any software.  let the gsync hardware do its job.

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/22 09:26:33 (permalink)
    dakon
    With Gsync, leave vsync off and any frame caps in any software.  let the gsync hardware do its job.


     
    I do. But, I had noticed playing Firewatch. I was exceeding 144+ frames. It started getting nasty with stutter and slight tearing. The second I enabled framerate target in Precision @144 fps. Smooth as butter again. In all games I can control vsync setting wise. I always make sure vsync is set to off and using Nvidia defaults. Its set to use the 3D application controlled setting. 

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/22 09:39:20 (permalink)
    Fire watch running full screen and not full screen borderless windowed?
     
    I love that game and have not had that issue.  It also runs Unity engine, so it should run without any issue.

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/22 10:18:23 (permalink)
    Yeah full screen. It was towards the very end to be fair. 
     
    **EDIT**
     
    Just fired it up to test some areas. I beat the game with out using OSD. Now that I am using it. I am seeing 144+ fps in some areas. 
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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/22 18:49:21 (permalink)
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    G-sync will mostly be of benefit if your frame rate stays under your monitors refresh rate, so no need to pin your frame
    rates any higher. I found in some cases depending on the frame cap used, things got real choppy and unplayable. To
    save myself time and hassle, i just leave V-Sync off and never set frame caps anymore, G-Sync is a marvelous thing ! 
    You might want to set V-Sync off globally in NVCP tho, sometimes G-Sync ignores V-Sync settings in-game.


    FrameRate CAP is still a very marvelous tool if you're trying to not go over a certain FPS. Why would someone want that? Well for me, it's all about realism. There can still be some issues if the game is going well over the monitor's refresh rate, because VSYNC is still "off" in this case, and the game is going over the parameters of the monitor. Since you all have Vsync off, then I would recommend setting a framerate CAP. I actually was experiencing fattysgonewild's issue with the choppiness on Company of Heroes (good game btw), and once I set a frame rate target to be below the monitor's max refresh rate, issues went away.
     
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    I do. But, I had noticed playing Firewatch. I was exceeding 144+ frames. It started getting nasty with stutter and slight tearing. The second I enabled framerate target in Precision @144 fps. Smooth as butter again. In all games I can control vsync setting wise. I always make sure vsync is set to off and using Nvidia defaults. Its set to use the 3D application controlled setting. 

     
    Try Witcher 3 with the FPS cap on running at 45FPS, it really is that amazing.
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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/22 20:25:28 (permalink)
    Yes, i know there are times where this could be of benefit, but in regards to G-Sync, i
    was trying to say the same thing as dakon basically said, and to just let G-sync do its job.
    I agree with you %100 as i mentioned it can be choppy aswell, if it goes above. A 144fps
    cap should reign that in for him. Being a heavy FPS player, a 45 fps cap could prove 
    detrimental to reaction time for me, thanks for your insight tho. I've only had G-Sync for a 
    couple months, and have been wanting to engage in discussions on this topic for tips. There's
    alotta different games where G-Sync could be configured in different ways to be more
    beneficial in certain circumstances, we should learn them all to get the most out of them.
    Later i'll give your advice a go again and pin it to 144 fps and see how it performs over time.
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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/22 21:29:49 (permalink)
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    G-sync will mostly be of benefit if your frame rate stays under your monitors refresh rate, so no need to pin your frame
    rates any higher. I found in some cases depending on the frame cap used, things got real choppy and unplayable. To
    save myself time and hassle, i just leave V-Sync off and never set frame caps anymore, G-Sync is a marvelous thing ! 
    You might want to set V-Sync off globally in NVCP tho, sometimes G-Sync ignores V-Sync settings in-game.


    FrameRate CAP is still a very marvelous tool if you're trying to not go over a certain FPS. Why would someone want that? Well for me, it's all about realism. There can still be some issues if the game is going well over the monitor's refresh rate, because VSYNC is still "off" in this case, and the game is going over the parameters of the monitor. Since you all have Vsync off, then I would recommend setting a framerate CAP. I actually was experiencing fattysgonewild's issue with the choppiness on Company of Heroes (good game btw), and once I set a frame rate target to be below the monitor's max refresh rate, issues went away.
     
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    I do. But, I had noticed playing Firewatch. I was exceeding 144+ frames. It started getting nasty with stutter and slight tearing. The second I enabled framerate target in Precision @144 fps. Smooth as butter again. In all games I can control vsync setting wise. I always make sure vsync is set to off and using Nvidia defaults. Its set to use the 3D application controlled setting. 

     
    Try Witcher 3 with the FPS cap on running at 45FPS, it really is that amazing.




    I am curious, why cap Witcher 3 at 45 fps?  I play at 1440p maxed out including hairworks and my PC maintains between 85 and 105 fps.  I guess that would mean I could cap it at 80, but why?
     
    144 fps in Firewatch?  At what resolution?

     
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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/22 21:57:55 (permalink)
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    G-sync will mostly be of benefit if your frame rate stays under your monitors refresh rate, so no need to pin your frame
    rates any higher. I found in some cases depending on the frame cap used, things got real choppy and unplayable. To
    save myself time and hassle, i just leave V-Sync off and never set frame caps anymore, G-Sync is a marvelous thing ! 
    You might want to set V-Sync off globally in NVCP tho, sometimes G-Sync ignores V-Sync settings in-game.


    FrameRate CAP is still a very marvelous tool if you're trying to not go over a certain FPS. Why would someone want that? Well for me, it's all about realism. There can still be some issues if the game is going well over the monitor's refresh rate, because VSYNC is still "off" in this case, and the game is going over the parameters of the monitor. Since you all have Vsync off, then I would recommend setting a framerate CAP. I actually was experiencing fattysgonewild's issue with the choppiness on Company of Heroes (good game btw), and once I set a frame rate target to be below the monitor's max refresh rate, issues went away.
     
    FattysGoneWild
    I do. But, I had noticed playing Firewatch. I was exceeding 144+ frames. It started getting nasty with stutter and slight tearing. The second I enabled framerate target in Precision @144 fps. Smooth as butter again. In all games I can control vsync setting wise. I always make sure vsync is set to off and using Nvidia defaults. Its set to use the 3D application controlled setting. 

     
    Try Witcher 3 with the FPS cap on running at 45FPS, it really is that amazing.




    I am curious, why cap Witcher 3 at 45 fps?  I play at 1440p maxed out including hairworks and my PC maintains between 85 and 105 fps.  I guess that would mean I could cap it at 80, but why?
     
    144 fps in Firewatch?  At what resolution?




     
    1440p with the monitor I am using in my sig. It will easily break 144+ in certain areas while playing using max settings. 
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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/22 22:34:47 (permalink)
    In movies, the usual is 30 fps, but there are instances where they will produce films with 48 and 60 fps, which changes
    the over-all perceived experience. I'm thinking stalinx20 is referring to this kind of idea, but in a gaming situation.

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/23 03:09:51 (permalink)
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    G-sync will mostly be of benefit if your frame rate stays under your monitors refresh rate, so no need to pin your frame
    rates any higher. I found in some cases depending on the frame cap used, things got real choppy and unplayable. To
    save myself time and hassle, i just leave V-Sync off and never set frame caps anymore, G-Sync is a marvelous thing ! 
    You might want to set V-Sync off globally in NVCP tho, sometimes G-Sync ignores V-Sync settings in-game.


    FrameRate CAP is still a very marvelous tool if you're trying to not go over a certain FPS. Why would someone want that? Well for me, it's all about realism. There can still be some issues if the game is going well over the monitor's refresh rate, because VSYNC is still "off" in this case, and the game is going over the parameters of the monitor. Since you all have Vsync off, then I would recommend setting a framerate CAP. I actually was experiencing fattysgonewild's issue with the choppiness on Company of Heroes (good game btw), and once I set a frame rate target to be below the monitor's max refresh rate, issues went away.
     
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    I do. But, I had noticed playing Firewatch. I was exceeding 144+ frames. It started getting nasty with stutter and slight tearing. The second I enabled framerate target in Precision @144 fps. Smooth as butter again. In all games I can control vsync setting wise. I always make sure vsync is set to off and using Nvidia defaults. Its set to use the 3D application controlled setting. 

     
    Try Witcher 3 with the FPS cap on running at 45FPS, it really is that amazing.




    I am curious, why cap Witcher 3 at 45 fps?  I play at 1440p maxed out including hairworks and my PC maintains between 85 and 105 fps.  I guess that would mean I could cap it at 80, but why?
     
    144 fps in Firewatch?  At what resolution?


    I tried it all on Witcher 3...60fps, 90fps, 120fps... I like realism in games, and with GSYNC at 45FPS, It's really good, but not all games are good at 45, lol. I have everything maxed out (yes hairworks included). It's just me really, everybody has their own opinions, flavor(s), and what not. Batman Arkham Knight is another good one. Seriously, if you have a GSYNC monitor, try it.

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/23 13:16:34 (permalink)
    I can't bring myself to go down to 45 fps, lol

     
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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/23 14:30:21 (permalink)
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    I can't bring myself to go down to 45 fps, lol


    I feel ya! Lol

    Ya pay good money for fast frame rate and limit it??

    Like buying a muscle car for 30-50k and drive in the right lane doing 25mph like an 80 year old man with a hat!

    Not this guy!

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/23 16:42:06 (permalink)
    Yeh, well, stalinx20 might be onto something there in regard to The Witcher 3, but its certainly not a good
    idea for the kind of games i play, so i won't be doing this either. My suggestion is, if you have to use frame
    caps to deal with tearing and choppy game-play, then set it to 143fps while in 144hz. Otherwise, let it run.  

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/23 17:28:04 (permalink)
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    I can't bring myself to go down to 45 fps, lol


    I feel ya! Lol

    Ya pay good money for fast frame rate and limit it??

    Like buying a muscle car for 30-50k and drive in the right lane doing 25mph like an 80 year old man with a hat!

    Not this guy!

    First off, I don't have a 1080, I have 980 SLI, which smokes a single 1080... sooooooooooo..., and you still wonder why I do it. Again, realism, but only in certain games. otherwise 140+ 

    Second, that's a very poor analogy. The true analogy is when you are running a very complex 3d rendering app and trying to continue to achieve the certain FPS you're wanting without it tanking or dropping below a certain FPS, or pulling a very heavy trailer and still maintain the horsepower at that same speed. THAT"S the correct analogy. Or, something else... You have all that "horse-power" but you're using it for apps that require hardly any power... Total waste.
     
    Do you have a GSYNC monitor? If you did, then you would know that 45 still feels like 90 if you think about it. I also do not run all games at 45, which it appears you missed. Once you have GSYNC, you'll never go back, ever. Games are not all about FPS unless you're running e-peen battles (Keep rocking that heaven benchmark , because nobody cares lol). The other reason is by setting it at 45, i don't have to worry about any dips that might occur in those 2 games. Once the FPS is very smooth (which Gsync achieves) then FPS is irrelevant, due to fast response and low latency, but below 40fps there is a clear difference and I will never go below that on witcher 3 or batman.
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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/23 20:31:36 (permalink)
    stalinx20
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    I can't bring myself to go down to 45 fps, lol


    I feel ya! Lol

    Ya pay good money for fast frame rate and limit it??

    Like buying a muscle car for 30-50k and drive in the right lane doing 25mph like an 80 year old man with a hat!

    Not this guy!

    First off, I don't have a 1080, I have 980 SLI, which smokes a single 1080... sooooooooooo..., and you still wonder why I do it. Again, realism, but only in certain games. otherwise 140+ 

    Second, that's a very poor analogy. The true analogy is when you are running a very complex 3d rendering app and trying to continue to achieve the certain FPS you're wanting without it tanking or dropping below a certain FPS, or pulling a very heavy trailer and still maintain the horsepower at that same speed. THAT"S the correct analogy. Or, something else... You have all that "horse-power" but you're using it for apps that require hardly any power... Total waste.
     
    Do you have a GSYNC monitor? If you did, then you would know that 45 still feels like 90 if you think about it. I also do not run all games at 45, which it appears you missed. Once you have GSYNC, you'll never go back, ever. Games are not all about FPS unless you're running e-peen battles (Keep rocking that heaven benchmark , because nobody cares lol). The other reason is by setting it at 45, i don't have to worry about any dips that might occur in those 2 games. Once the FPS is very smooth (which Gsync achieves) then FPS is irrelevant, due to fast response and low latency, but below 40fps there is a clear difference and I will never go below that on witcher 3 or batman.


    Excuse me but I've I've got a 27" asus g-sync monitor that does 164fps. I've had 2 Gigabyte G1 Gaming 980s in sli for the past 1 1/2 - 2 years or so and i've since moved to 2 1080 evga classifieds in sli on the same monitor.

    Yes if the frame rate dropped into the 45 range it would feel like a stuttering mess! Anything below 50 is not good on g-sync..I know cause I've had recently ran a single 980 in the system in between 1080s as I've had the zotac amp,pny and evga fe cards and evga ftw hybrid and now the classified 1080s.

    Btw. My 7 year old is getting my old (current) rig with my 980 sli while I upgrade my whole rig to go along with the new classifieds.

    I also bought him a new 24" 1080 144hz monitor for his pc since the smaller 4gb ram on the 980 will run best with at 1080.. always gave me issues at 2560x1440 on my monitor with the 980sli. Hate turning down settings just to keep the frame rate up. 8gb vram is what you want for 1440.
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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/23 21:21:23 (permalink)
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    Excuse me but I've I've got a 27" asus g-sync monitor that does 164fps. I've had 2 Gigabyte G1 Gaming 980s in sli for the past 1 1/2 - 2 years or so and i've since moved to 2 1080 evga classifieds in sli on the same monitor.

    Yes if the frame rate dropped into the 45 range it would feel like a stuttering mess! Anything below 50 is not good on g-sync..I know cause I've had recently ran a single 980 in the system in between 1080s as I've had the zotac amp,pny and evga fe cards and evga ftw hybrid and now the classified 1080s.

    Btw. My 7 year old is getting my old (current) rig with my 980 sli while I upgrade my whole rig to go along with the new classifieds.

    I also bought him a new 24" 1080 144hz monitor for his pc since the smaller 4gb ram on the 980 will run best with at 1080.. always gave me issues at 2560x1440 on my monitor with the 980sli. Hate turning down settings just to keep the frame rate up. 8gb vram is what you want for 1440.

    Let's not make this a pissing contest, 'cause what you do on your PC is on you, and you only. Second, what you just mentioned in bold is completely false. It works from 30-144hz. it's below 30 that causes the problems, and over 144. I'm not even sure why you brought up your other systems, that's useless information.

    Since you do have a Gsync monitor, then you know very well what Gsync is capable of, or you should know at least. It looks like you haven't really experimented much with it. But, game on at 140+ if it makes your gaming experience that much more enjoyable, but I won't judge you like you judged me. Game on.
     
    G-Sync is capable of refresh rates that range from 30Hz to 144Hz, while the FreeSync spec is capable of refresh rates that range from 9Hz to 240Hz. That doesn’t mean that you will find monitors with a refresh rate range of 9Hz-240Hz but it means that monitor makers can make monitors with any range in mind that falls between 9Hz-240Hz. FreeSync monitors out right now feature a variety of ranges.
    http://wccftech.com/amd-freesync-nvidia-gsync-verdict/
     
    Notes from Nvidia website:
    For enthusiasts, we’ve included a new advanced control option that enables G-SYNC to be disabled when the frame rate of a game exceeds the maximum refresh rate of the G-SYNC monitor. For instance, if your frame rate can reach 250 on a 144Hz monitor, the new option will disable G-SYNC once you exceed 144 frames per second. Doing so will disable G-SYNCs goodness and reintroduce tearing, which G-SYNC eliminates, but it will improve input latency ever so slightly in games that require lighting fast reactions.

    http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/g-sync-gets-even-better
     
    In other words, bud, once you're passed 144hz with GSYNC, it's useless. Good luck. Hence the reason for Vsync and/or Frame-rate target.

     
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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/23 22:07:28 (permalink)
    stalinx20
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    Excuse me but I've I've got a 27" asus g-sync monitor that does 164fps. I've had 2 Gigabyte G1 Gaming 980s in sli for the past 1 1/2 - 2 years or so and i've since moved to 2 1080 evga classifieds in sli on the same monitor.

    Yes if the frame rate dropped into the 45 range it would feel like a stuttering mess! Anything below 50 is not good on g-sync..I know cause I've had recently ran a single 980 in the system in between 1080s as I've had the zotac amp,pny and evga fe cards and evga ftw hybrid and now the classified 1080s.

    Btw. My 7 year old is getting my old (current) rig with my 980 sli while I upgrade my whole rig to go along with the new classifieds.

    I also bought him a new 24" 1080 144hz monitor for his pc since the smaller 4gb ram on the 980 will run best with at 1080.. always gave me issues at 2560x1440 on my monitor with the 980sli. Hate turning down settings just to keep the frame rate up. 8gb vram is what you want for 1440.

    Let's not make this a pissing contest, 'cause what you do on your PC is on you, and you only. Second, what you just mentioned in bold is completely false. It works from 30-144hz. it's below 30 that causes the problems, and over 144. I'm not even sure why you brought up your other systems, nobody cares.

    Since you do have a Gsync monitor, then you know very well what Gsync is capable of, or you should know at least. It looks like you haven't really experimented much with it. But, game on at 140+ if it makes your gaming experience that much more enjoyable, but I won't judge you like you judged me. Game on.
     
    G-Sync is capable of refresh rates that range from 30Hz to 144Hz, while the FreeSync spec is capable of refresh rates that range from 9Hz to 240Hz. That doesn’t mean that you will find monitors with a refresh rate range of 9Hz-240Hz but it means that monitor makers can make monitors with any range in mind that falls between 9Hz-240Hz. FreeSync monitors out right now feature a variety of ranges.
    http://wccftech.com/amd-freesync-nvidia-gsync-verdict/
     
    Notes from Nvidia website:
    For enthusiasts, we’ve included a new advanced control option that enables G-SYNC to be disabled when the frame rate of a game exceeds the maximum refresh rate of the G-SYNC monitor. For instance, if your frame rate can reach 250 on a 144Hz monitor, the new option will disable G-SYNC once you exceed 144 frames per second. Doing so will disable G-SYNCs goodness and reintroduce tearing, which G-SYNC eliminates, but it will improve input latency ever so slightly in games that require lighting fast reactions.

    http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/g-sync-gets-even-better
     
    In other words, bud, once you're passed 144hz with GSYNC, it's useless. Good luck. Hence the reason for Vsync and/or Frame-rate target.
     


     
    How reliable is Precision with frame rate target with games that don't support an option? I hope more of the newer games coming out include refresh rates you can choose. I guess devs. that add framerate caps as well is kinda like the same thing? Seems like a quick band aid fix though instead of adding refresh rate options? 

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/23 22:08:07 (permalink)
    I brought that up cause he stated that his 980sli will smoke a single 1080. But it's only got 4gb ram. Fine for a 1080 monitor but for some games that small vram will choke on it at 1440.

    Btw.. I'm not the first guy to claim g-sync stutters under 50 fps. Could be just marketing and they want you to believe it's fine or just drivers but no thanks.. if it was great then I guess I would of never bought another 980 back when.

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/23 22:14:14 (permalink)
    AHowes I brought that up cause he stated that his 980sli will smoke a single 1080. But it's only got 4gb ram. Fine for a 1080 monitor but for some games that small vram will choke on it at 1440.
    Btw.. I'm not the first guy to claim g-sync stutters under 50 fps. Could be just marketing and they want you to believe it's fine or just drivers but no thanks.. if it was great then I guess I would of never bought another 980 back when.


    Yes 980SLI will. Arguably, when SLI is running "correctly" within game, 980SLI will beat a single 1080. Look it up. Don't believe the hype that Nvidia spewed over the internet, please.
     
    Then there must be a flook, bad drivers, bad monitor maybe, on reasons you're getting tearing below 50fps, but don't knock it down because you have the problems, and other people don't. Sounds like a problem with your PC then, but I don't know your PC. All I can say is I do not have those issues like you do. It could be your cable possibly.
     
    What Asus monitor do you have? Maybe it needs a firmware update? I couldn't find much when I searched GSYNC tearing 50FPS, but i found a couple. Some of them recommend turning on VSYNC while GSYNC to see if that would fix it. That's your call though.
    https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/856778/gsync-on-vsync-off-screen-tearing/?offset=10

    The site below doesn't really list the problem you have, but it's an in depth of Gsync.
     
    http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Dissecting-G-Sync-and-FreeSync-How-Technologies-Differ
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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/09/23 22:15:25 (permalink)
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    How reliable is Precision with frame rate target with games that don't support an option? I hope more of the newer games coming out include refresh rates you can choose. I guess devs. that add framerate caps as well is kinda like the same thing? Seems like a quick band aid fix though instead of adding refresh rate options? 



    I have not had a single issue with frame-rate target on any app/game while using precision X.

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/10/23 12:16:58 (permalink)
    Did not want to start a new thread on this. I have Gears Of War 4. Framerate target off in Precision atm. The game lets you select FPS caps. 30, 60, 90, 120, 144 and Unlimited. I set mine to 144 since I am using 144Hz G-Sync monitor. BUT. I am getting tearing. I enabled the built in FPS counter with in the game. Its set the framerate to 143.99. I think that is the issue and why the tearing occurs? Its to close to being exactly @144? Because when the frames are under that. I get no kind of tearing at all. So I believe its working correctly. But as I said. I think the game itself set it to close @143.99 yes and why I am getting it? 

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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/10/23 12:48:25 (permalink)
    If you are using 373.06, have you tried enabling fast sync in NVCPL, with vsync off in-game?
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    Re: 1080 G-Sync and framerate target with EVGA Precision 2016/10/23 13:36:41 (permalink)
    Don't think fast sync is of any use or beneficial since I am using g sync. I could be wrong though. 

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