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Hey I was wondering if any of you have had a problem with the 10 series cardsin sli, I had no problem with 780s in sli but I have 2 1070 sc in sli and I am getting stutter and frame drops I have tested each card induvidually and they work flawless no stutter at all. Also I tested these cards in bf3 and theirs no stutter in sli in bf3 with them. I have tried 2 different drivers and I get the same stutter in bf4. I have tried 3dmark bench test and no stutter either. Thanks
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/06 21:58:17
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Could be one of the cards are not seated correctly and not getting a good connection.
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/06 22:18:02
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Depending on your system specs, your post sounds like running way high FPS in BF4... other tests normal. -->this can cause alot of different issues in BF4, but most often its with your mouse latency (polling) that "looks" like stuttering. Test by using in game CMD line with a even number below 200 like==> gametime.maxvariablefps 100 (this will limit FPS to 100) *also do NOT ever use the Geforce Experience for settings in a older game like BF4, as they are NOT compatible with your newer hardware and the latest drivers If capping FPS does not point the way, please post your system specs, monitor setup and BF4 in-game settings. Should be easy to fix once we understand the cause
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/06 22:57:48
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maniacvvv Depending on your system specs, your post sounds like running way high FPS in BF4... other tests normal. -->this can cause alot of different issues in BF4, but most often its with your mouse latency (polling) that "looks" like stuttering. Test by using in game CMD line with a even number below 200 like==> gametime.maxvariablefps 100 (this will limit FPS to 100) *also do NOT ever use the Geforce Experience for settings in a older game like BF4, as they are NOT compatible with your newer hardware and the latest drivers If capping FPS does not point the way, please post your system specs, monitor setup and BF4 in-game settings. Should be easy to fix once we understand the cause
Ok i set my fps locked at 144, the mouse polling rate did nothing everything works great with one card and I get pretty close to the same fps with one card. I had 2 780s in sli and never had a problem and was getting between 200fps and 150fps at 1080p. I get good fps now in 1440p but more like 180 to 120 and when the frams drop it could go down to 75fps real quick. System specs are 3930k @ 4.6mhz rampage extreme black edition, dominator platnium 2400mhz 16gb, monitor is a pg279q 1440p and i am running it at 144hz All in game settings are ultra and i dont use motion blur Also my firestrike score 23639 and 36244 for graphics score for a 3930k I "THINK" I have the best score now, its not valid because of the new driver today but I put in my cpu and graphics cards in the search and I had the best overall score at the moment.
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/06 23:21:08
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Hmm... nice specs The kicker here is BF3 and 3Dmark appear to run normal.. (kinda rules out the normal questions below) Any other cards in the PCIE slots? how many USB devices connected? What type of drive is the game/OS running on? Perhaps some Unigine/Firestrike testing is in order... to make sure only BF4 is having the problem EDIT: if no issues are occurring except for BF4, then its a config or driver issue Have you deleted the BF4 config file and let it rebuild with your new hardware and settings? or did you just leave it and change in game settings when you put in the new cards?
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/06 23:24:36
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maniacvvv Hmm... nice specs The kicker here is BF3 and 3Dmark appear to run normal.. (kinda rules out the normal questions below) Any other cards in the PCIE slots? how many USB devices connected? What type of drive is the game/OS running on? Perhaps some Unigine/Firestrike testing is in order... to make sure only BF4 is having the problem
I have a sound card but thats been there from the very start and I have 3 usb devices hooked up which have also been there. My os/games are on a samsung evo 250gb ssd No stutter in valley benchmark score was 4787
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/06 23:36:18
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Old School... Run at stock on GPU's and only on "properly tested" CPU overclocks Custom mode/Clean install the drivers (manually/do NOT use GFE) with just the Driver and PhysX and nothing else and reboot (must be done) Leave the NVCP at 100% stock settings -except- for your refresh rate and enable SLI Setup all in game settings manually (not the preset) -after- deleting the BF4 saved config file and then CLOSE the game completely, and then shutdown and close Origin completely (game and Origin shutdowns must be done)... Then test again
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/07 04:30:05
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what are you using for an sli bridge?
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/07 04:55:49
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RandyRick what are you using for an sli bridge?
There's that too. If you're on the traditional bridge then it could be that bf4 is passing more data through pcie and thus the stutter.
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/07 05:47:32
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Try disabling hyperthreading in BIOS IDK why but my 1080 SLI run better with HT disabled on my 5960x. PriorGames like bf4 ran perfectly fine with my 5960 with HT and 980 SLI i now get weird jitter/stutter even with gsync when HT is on. edit also im using HB bridge Spec 5960x 4.5Ghz x99 Pro 16GB DDR4 2666 1080 SLI XB270HU/165Hz
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/07 06:24:24
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Try the newest driver that came out yesterday, it added a bunch of Sli support. I think its 368.69 driver
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/07 08:18:16
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The only thing I haven't tried is to disable the hyper threading. I don't have a hub bridge yet but I do have the other nice evga bridge I have tested the cards stock and overclocked and they do the same this has got to be a problem with the game no way it can run every benchmark flawless and run bf3 fine and then do this in bf4 only in sli.
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/07 09:02:22
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kba1980 ....this has got to be a problem with the game no way it can run every benchmark flawless and run bf3 fine and then do this in bf4 only in sli.
I agree. It really looks like a game/driver BF4 issue Kinda tough to work on, with just a couple of drivers. That will change quickly as more get released
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/07 09:10:17
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I am going to try a fix that jayztwocents posted when bf4 first came out he had stutter and fps drop but that was for 700 card but it may work he said direct x isn't installed and you have to do it manually.
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/07 09:59:11
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/07 10:16:51
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Sajin Try #1 & #2 listed .
Thanks I will give this a try when I get home.
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/07 20:44:44
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Well none of this worked I disabled sli again to make sure I hadn't lost my mind when I said there were no stutter with one card in bf4 and there wasn't ran perfect I also went back and tested sli in bf3 and it ran perfect so I am installing battlefield hardline to see what it does if hardline works good then it's got to be bf4 although I can't understand why 2 780s in sli ran perfect in bf4.
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/08 00:15:56
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kba1980 Well none of this worked I disabled sli again to make sure I hadn't lost my mind when I said there were no stutter with one card in bf4 and there wasn't ran perfect I also went back and tested sli in bf3 and it ran perfect so I am installing battlefield hardline to see what it does if hardline works good then it's got to be bf4 although I can't understand why 2 780s in sli ran perfect in bf4.
Could you please post a screenshot of your BF4 in-game graphics settings panel Res scale, FOV and--> AA settings conflicts (along with non standard NVCP settings) -can- cause your reported issues in BF4
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/08 00:32:11
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kba1980 Hey I was wondering if any of you have had a problem with the 10 series cardsin sli, I had no problem with 780s in sli but I have 2 1070 sc in sli and I am getting stutter and frame drops I have tested each card induvidually and they work flawless no stutter at all.
Also I tested these cards in bf3 and theirs no stutter in sli in bf3 with them. I have tried 2 different drivers and I get the same stutter in bf4. I have tried 3dmark bench test and no stutter either.
Thanks
Have you checked the temps on your GPU's, CPU etc..?? If its stuttering... Honestly that most likely points to a over heating issue.. Some of these cards I've heard is behaving strangely where others have no issues, a lot of reports is SLI issues, throttling and overheating in very high temps as well as fans not kicking on.. Your card is acting up in SLI, I don't thinks it a driver issue, sorry mate. Its not your fault just the first generation bugs, I guess you have to expect that right?
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/09 07:20:12
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Sorry I haven't had time to post I did take some screenshots but haven't got to add them on here but for what it's worth I have tried every setting possible with bf4 in game video settings and with the NCP tried them stock and modified and nothing works. I have tried the cards in bf hardline and there's stutter and also tried them in battlefront although battlefront is the best yet but still some stutter but it's playable. I should also add when I say stutter I mean skipping frames a massive frame drops it will go from 180fps to like 80 to 100. I have also tried to disable hyper threading and my cards don't get above 72c and that was in battlefront in bf4 they get around 67c. At this point and time I am going to buy a HB sli bridge when available and if that doesn't work so long sli I will just buy a 1080ti when they come out I have spent 3 nights dealing with this lol and I am tired. If anyone has any other suggestions please fire away. I was also able to get my best fire strike score yesterday so the cards run perfect for benchmarks just not in games lol.
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/09 07:49:45
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What is your res and did you increase the games res scale?
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/09 07:51:46
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Res is 1440p and no I have not adjusted the res scale. It's at 100%
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/09 07:57:09
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Oh OK nvrmind I found at 1440 with 140 res scale if i join into game like siege of shanghai when lot of destruction the game is constantly loading/streaming things when ever i go into new spots. Game feels jittery when paining around if I stand still I can have like 120 fps then it jumps to like 140fps. Go into another spot 100 wait and back to 120 and smooth again. If i start beginning of new match this doesn't happening as much IDK what is going but its the game not my hardware. If i play at like 120 res scale this doesn't happen. What i though was HT turned out to be the game so I turned HT back on :P
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/09 08:00:02
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demo23019 Oh OK nvrmind I found at 1440 with 140 res scale if i join into game like siege of shanghai when lot of destruction the game is constantly loading things destruction...ect when ever i go into new spots. Game feels jittery when paining around if I stand still I can have like 120 fps then it jumps to like 140fps. Go into another spot 100 wait and back to 120 and smooth again. If i start beginning of new match this doesn't happening as much IDK what is going but its the game not my hardware. If i play at 120 or lower res scale this doesn't happen.
That's the way it is for me if I am standing still hell my fps is 150 to 200 but I start moving it will start skipping frames and bad from drops its not constant but probably every 30 seconds to a minute and it's on every map. If I use 1 card I get none of this sure the fps goes up and down but it's not a massive drop like when running sli and I have tried using both cards 1 at a time and it's perfect I would just like to run 144hz on ultra all the time and 1 card want do it at 1440p on ultra it's pretty close though.
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/09 08:03:37
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are you running any config file for BF4?
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/09 08:05:34
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demo23019 are you running any config file for BF4?
I have tried it with and without config file still same results and that's locking the screen at 144hz
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/09 08:20:33
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try RenderDevice.ForceRenderAheadLimit 3 command idk what game set it at by default or what you have but see if it helps
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/09 08:21:36
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I will give that a try thanks
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/09 08:45:46
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IDK what else check CPU see if any cores hitting 90-100 percent during these spikes. Also can also run perfoverlay.drawgraph 1 command to see were the bottleneck is coming from/. But TBH i get cpu spikes during the loading stutter issues i mentioned before doesn't really mean my hardware is the problem so take this command with grain of salt
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Re: 1070 sli stutter
2016/07/09 08:54:45
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demo23019 IDK what else check CPU see if any cores hitting 90-100 percent during these spikes. Also can also run perfoverlay.drawgraph 1 command to see were the bottleneck is coming from/. But TBH i get cpu spikes during the loading stutter issues i mentioned before doesn't really mean my hardware is the problem so take this command with grain of salt
When I ran 2 780s in sli everything was fine, I don't think the cpu would be a bottleneck it's a 3930k running at 4.6 my firestrike score is the highest in the world for using a 3930k at 23901 overall and the graphics score is over 36000 and in sli it works like a charm I think it's the sli bridge or these new cards need updated drivers for games but who knows I am about tired of messing with it lol.
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