GloR1ouS_
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So with the big news of there being a bios issue this completely describes what I've been experiencing with my 1070 lately and mine has Samsung memory and not Micron. Is this bios compatible with my card and will it actually resolve the issue?
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/20 21:32:18
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The vbios is only for micron memory. I personally wouldn't recommend flashing it since your card uses samsung memory.
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/20 22:09:23
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Well tbh the whole it's only micron memory is a load of crap. Mines doing it with Samsung and I can't be the only one. I thought to myself, can my luck with gpus really be this bad? Than I saw this thread and went oh. I've been doing some reading and Hilbert at guru3d suspects the bios ups the voltage to the vram. Thing is ive seen the flickering and odd artifacts with my gpu not overclocked but my card boosts to 2000mhz without ocing.
post edited by GloR1ouS_ - 2016/10/20 22:13:49
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/20 23:37:51
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Sure you can try it, but the VBIOS update was meant to fix a problem with Micron memory not getting the proper voltage. The 1070 was designed for Samsung memory by Nvidia, not Micron, and that's where the problem came from - when the VRAM was OCed the Micron 1070s had unstable power delivery to the VRAM. Will it fix your problem? No, it's almost guaranteed not to. But you can try it before you start an RMA.
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/21 01:56:56
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My gtx1070 ftw also has Samsung memory and I'm having artifacts and screenflicker almost everyday, but not all the time. Temps are good though. Really annoying.
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/21 05:58:30
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For me too, I've the samsung memory on a 1070 SC, artifacts, crashes, black screens.
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/21 06:56:30
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Yeah I have a feeling its just a design flaw period. I mean the bios shows it supports my cards model # so I will give it a shot.
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/21 09:47:44
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Welcome to the Forum fls66 Could it be that you two are just overclocking your Graphics Cards to high and or your CPU or Both? fls66 My gtx1070 ftw also has Samsung memory and I'm having artifacts and screenflicker almost everyday, but not all the time. Temps are good though. Really annoying.
earlyapex For me too, I've the samsung memory on a 1070 SC, artifacts, crashes, black screens.
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/21 10:18:18
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Nope, no overclock at all. I only just now used DDU and installed latest 375.57 drivers, freshly installed Assetto Corsa off steam. Totally vanilla install. It crashed after 15mins with game render and node render errors in its log. I did this to verify that my game install was not at fault nor driver install. MY 1070 SC GPU is faulty, it performs really well when it runs until the crash hits. Sure it even crashed on me when underclocked! I will RMA it now for sure, just don't want to get stuck with a micron one. @EVGA: Can an exchange be done exactly like for like (Samsung memory for Samsung memory)?
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/21 11:57:28
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earlyapex Nope, no overclock at all. I only just now used DDU and installed latest 375.57 drivers, freshly installed Assetto Corsa off steam. Totally vanilla install. It crashed after 15mins with game render and node render errors in its log. I did this to verify that my game install was not at fault nor driver install. MY 1070 SC GPU is faulty, it performs really well when it runs until the crash hits. Sure it even crashed on me when underclocked! I will RMA it now for sure, just don't want to get stuck with a micron one. @EVGA: Can an exchange be done exactly like for like (Samsung memory for Samsung memory)?
As per http://www.evga.com/support/warranty/graphics-cards/ Product Warranty Replacement:- EVGA CORPORATION reserves the right to check the validity of your warranty and your request for warranty service upon receiving the product.
- EVGA reserves the right to claim for shipping fees, hold your warranty as well as a service charge from you for any incomplete, damaged or modified product that is returned and requires repair or replacement, or when you are not entitled to any coverage under EVGA's warranty. Service charges are variable based upon the actual material and labor cost to replace missing or modified parts back to their original factory condition.
- Products sent in for RMA will be repaired and returned or replaced with a thoroughly tested recertified product of equal or greater performance.
- EVGA Warranty begins from the date that the product was originally shipped from the EVGA warehouse.
- For the original owner of the product with a valid invoice that can be verified from an approved reseller the warranty begins from the date of purchase on the invoice.
- All products returned from EVGA's RMA department are thoroughly tested recertified products. If an RMA is necessary within 30 days of the original purchase date, a new in box OEM replacement will be sent in return if the product was purchased new-in-box, subject to availability.
- All recertified (B-Stock) purchases will receive a recertified product for replacement.
- Replacements under EVGA's RMA Service will continue the original product's warranty based on the original warranty start date.
So no, you cannot be guaranteed a replacement Samsung memory 1070. I have a feeling that this memory issue is the result of certain EVGA PCBs getting very, very hot around the VRAM chips - outside of the VRAM chips tolerances.
post edited by arestavo - 2016/10/21 11:59:52
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/21 13:59:54
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I'm in the EU so the EU warranty terms state - Products sent in for RMA will be repaired or replaced with a product deemed to be of equal or greater performance by EVGA if an exact replacement is not available.
I wish to know if EVGA have any good Samsung memory 1070 SC stock left for RMA purposes in EU?
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/21 15:32:55
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earlyapex I'm in the EU so the EU warranty terms state
- Products sent in for RMA will be repaired or replaced with a product deemed to be of equal or greater performance by EVGA if an exact replacement is not available.
I wish to know if EVGA have any good Samsung memory 1070 SC stock left for RMA purposes in EU?
Might want to email or call them and ask since this is a mostly a US forum: http://www.evga.com/about/contactus/
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/21 18:01:21
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Factory recertified products are....crap. When you pay 680 cad for a piece of pcb that probably costs the company 100 dollars to manufacture you should be getting a brand new product. I know how factory recertified products work, they pass a checklist than get sent back out. It's the same for any product.
post edited by GloR1ouS_ - 2016/10/21 18:04:16
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/23 05:40:47
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Hey Glorious, did you try the new vbios on your card yet? Any improvements from it? And yes, I also expect a new card when I return a faulty one, and not get someone else's returned faulty one.
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/23 13:15:34
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The new bios doesn't appear to have any negative side effects that I can see. I haven't seen the flicker or check boarding I was seeing before.
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/23 14:00:21
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Funny that, because you and I have the same Samsung memory and yet I never had flickering or checker boarding but I do have freezes, crashes and black screens. Did you have any of those too before doing the bios update?
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/23 16:39:40
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Never had any kind of crashing or anything like that at all
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/23 19:53:11
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I wouldn't be worried about getting a 1070 with Micron memory. Before the bios update my 1070 SC Black could only do about 380 before checkerboarding. I thought it was gimped being the cheaper "Black Edition" with no backplate. Afterwards it will easily do 550+. I haven't even found the limit on the memory yet but happy to see I can finally break 20k gpu score in Firestrike on my OG X58 setup (+160, +500). What kind of OC are you guys seeing with the samsung?
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/24 03:28:36
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Thanks for your answers. I am going to rma my card as it clearly has issues. So many people affected by crashes black screens etc. its crazy.
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/24 05:05:48
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Hi folks... Not trying to be funny, just trying to help. But some of you guys with flickering displays. There's been an issue with the Nvidia drivers for the last few releases with 144hz (& above) monitors causing bad flicker (not all panels though). The short term solution is to set your max refresh rate in the Nvidia control panel to 120hz. Most games will still use the panels max refresh rate of 144hz, though some like the DOOM reboot check to see what you've got set and will use 120hz. Worth a try I would have thought. Not saying this is everyone's problem, but it sure sorted my monitor (Dell s2716dg 144hz Gsync). PS. I also have an EVGA 1070 FTW.
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/25 10:33:51
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My card hasn't been getting hot at all, I did read it was the ftw cards that were affected and needed the thermal pads. I was super close to buying a ftw card but figured I didn't care for dual bios / custom lighting. Guru3d thinks the sc cards are affected as well.
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/25 10:55:31
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post edited by NucleusX - 2016/10/25 10:59:01
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/25 11:43:38
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GloR1ouS_ My card hasn't been getting hot at all, I did read it was the ftw cards that were affected and needed the thermal pads. I was super close to buying a ftw card but figured I didn't care for dual bios / custom lighting. Guru3d thinks the sc cards are affected as well.
Its not he SC of FTW cards, Its the ACX 3.0. And is the no GPU temperature either, its the VRM temperature (that may affect memory next to it), and you can't mesure with software (afaik).
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/25 13:22:53
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dzernesto
GloR1ouS_ My card hasn't been getting hot at all, I did read it was the ftw cards that were affected and needed the thermal pads. I was super close to buying a ftw card but figured I didn't care for dual bios / custom lighting. Guru3d thinks the sc cards are affected as well.
Its not the SC or FTW cards, Its the ACX 3.0. And it isn't the GPU temperature either, its the VRM temperature (that may affect memory next to it), and you can't measure with software (afaik).
Indeed It also may, or may not, be a contributor to the cards where a component appears to have failed on the PCB (IE. burnt out). Certainly looks to be in the same area to me. Only seen pictures of two failed cards though. PS. There is no thermal sensor on the VRM's, so no way for us to even check it directly ourselves.
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/25 14:05:53
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Is the sc card not acx 3.0? I thought it was
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Re: 1070 SC Samsung DDR5
2016/10/25 15:02:44
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GloR1ouS_ Is the sc card not acx 3.0? I thought it was
Yes it is. Though I think things are starting to get a little confused in this thread. As we are at times talking about two different issues. 1) The use of Micron memory, rather than the Samsung memory that was used in the firs few batches of cards. The Micron memory would appear not to OC as well as the Samsung memory. So EVGA has released a new set of BIOS's to address this. 2) The "hot spot" issue on cards that use the ACX 3.0 cooling system. And it's this that EVGA are offering the extra thermal pads for user to fit to their cards, should they wish.
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