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After buying and registering this card, it came up as one of the qualifying cards to receive the thermal pads. So i clicked
on submit, and it had been sitting on the famous "Awaiting Shipment" status for at-least a week. I log in today to check
the status, and the 1060 FTW was removed from the list, as i already had one submitted for another 1070 FTW. What the
hell is going on here ? Either the 1060 qualifies or it doesn't ? Which is it ! I can't wait for this garbage to be over with. 

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/16 17:24:09 (permalink)
    Been wondering the same myself for if it qualifies or not. The 1060 FTW was recently pulled from sale at NCIX, so I guess they've stopped manufacturing them.
     
    I'm on the step up, the 1060 FTW+ DT, and I did my own thermal pad upgrade, but the promised VBIOS upgrade never came so you're SOL if you want to keep your temperatures safe in BIOS or Linux.

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/16 17:33:44 (permalink)
    I got the 1060 FTW+. Yeh i created a thread to ask about the missing 1060's from the list, but was advised to wait, as they may add it soon.
    Nothing yet. Only the SC and SSC bios updates exist so far. They also clearly show the qualifying cards on this list as-well, mine is in it.
     
     

     
     
     

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 00:50:03 (permalink)
    I've been bugging support and their response is quite simply that we're SOL. We will not and will never be getting the VBIOS upgrade even though our card is listed on the affected cards.
     
    Their excuse is "This card runs cool enough to use the stock fan profile."
     
    Really? The fans don't spin at all in BIOS/Linux. How is that justified? My VRMs get uncomfortably warm in this mode so basically you're risking your card each time you boot into Linux.

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 01:16:24 (permalink)
    Hey guys, sorry noob here and new to the forum so I don't know if this has been addressed but I have 1060 SSC which qualifies for the mod and bios update. I had a closer look at the card and noticed the VRAM doesn't touch the heatsink or has thermal pads..is that normal? I thought they also need to be cooled.
     
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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 10:59:44 (permalink)
    No, its not normal. They are mandatory. And I'm quite sick of the EVGA defenders on here spouting their
    consumer loyalist dribble claiming these are just a few isolated incidents. I've seen so many reports on
    inadequacies here i refuse to pay the loyalists any mind. This has gotten way outta hand, and its bigger
    than they are letting on with their carefully crafted damage control responses. This is just pathetic.
     
    Their worst overlooked fail ? They couldn't even get the colors of the RGB LEDs calibrated right. LOL !
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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 11:15:56 (permalink)
    This email will be going out to 1060 FTW+ owners shortly, basically after more testing and investigation, a BIOS update and thermal pad change are not required.
     
    Thank you for your recent request for an EVGA Thermal Mod kit and for being an EVGA customer.  We send you this email with good news about your EVGA product with model number: ____:  After further investigation and testing, we can confirm that all components on your product are well-within specification, and the optional Thermal Mod and VBIOS update is not recommended for your product.



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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 11:19:02 (permalink)
    Well a Rep I spoke to said they would send a basplate which was needed. I was literally shocked to see the Vram just in the open and I checked the FTW edition had a baseplate atleast so I don't know what to think lol.
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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 11:22:28 (permalink)
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    This email will be going out to 1060 FTW+ owners shortly, basically after more testing and investigation, a BIOS update and thermal pad change are not required.
     
    Thank you for your recent request for an EVGA Thermal Mod kit and for being an EVGA customer.  We send you this email with good news about your EVGA product with model number: ____:  After further investigation and testing, we can confirm that all components on your product are well-within specification, and the optional Thermal Mod and VBIOS update is not recommended for your product.



     
    Heh, I think I'm gonna do it anyways just to be safe. Apparently the thermal pads are "optional" but we all know they are "required" lol. No offense.
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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 11:25:34 (permalink)
    None taken. I mean we all bought the thing to use it and now everyone is stuck waiting for thermal pads...I highly doubt increasing the fan speed with justify anyone to not be cautious.
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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 11:35:33 (permalink)
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    None taken. I mean we all bought the thing to use it and now everyone is stuck waiting for thermal pads...I highly doubt increasing the fan speed with justify anyone to not be cautious.



    I really don't mind a bit of fan noise in these custom cards, beats the noise that come out of reference cards. What i do mind is VRAM and VRMs put at risk from
    overheating from either not enough thermal pad surface area, or no contact at all. Their temps can't be monitored, and %100 fan speed would do little to save them.
    Every moment you run a game without those VRAMs making proper contact, is a step closer to the death of those VRAMs. They must make contact or they will fail. 

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 11:39:05 (permalink)
    Very true. I have no idea where we go from this now! No gaming for few weeks now...
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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 11:47:36 (permalink)
    Pretty much how I've had to do it for about a month now.

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 12:11:28 (permalink)
    I have been running an1060 full load folding with afterburner running since I care less about fan noise. Check the folding forums if you like, a photo is posted. Temperatures are FINE, fan speed is fine matter of fact the fans on the case and the radiator are LOUDER. Apparently you seem not to want to take EVGAs word and keep pissing and moaning about it. If you feel it's needed then take the card by the memory/ VRMs or whatever else you feel is needed to make it qualify to your apparent engineering needs. On the other hand I believe you will never be satisfied, end result is we will continue to have to see you post on and on about it.

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 13:35:11 (permalink)
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    None taken. I mean we all bought the thing to use it and now everyone is stuck waiting for thermal pads...I highly doubt increasing the fan speed with justify anyone to not be cautious.



    I really don't mind a bit of fan noise in these custom cards, beats the noise that come out of reference cards. What i do mind is VRAM and VRMs put at risk from
    overheating from either not enough thermal pad surface area, or no contact at all. Their temps can't be monitored, and %100 fan speed would do little to save them.
    Every moment you run a game without those VRAMs making proper contact, is a step closer to the death of those VRAMs. They must make contact or they will fail. 


     
    THIS.
     
    Especially when the fans run at 0db (not spinning) in BIOS/Linux. If the K-boost feature is accidentally left in the on position when the system reboots, it will heat up the card and the fans won't spin, not until the GPU core temp reaches 65C, then it only spins at a mere 30%.
     
    Also, we have a genuine interest in keeping our hardware running for years to come and having flaws like this certainly isn't helping. Planned obsolescence anyone?

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 16:01:38 (permalink)
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    I have been running an1060 full load folding with afterburner running since I care less about fan noise. Check the folding forums if you like, a photo is posted. Temperatures are FINE, fan speed is fine matter of fact the fans on the case and the radiator are LOUDER. Apparently you seem not to want to take EVGAs word and keep pissing and moaning about it. If you feel it's needed then take the card by the memory/ VRMs or whatever else you feel is needed to make it qualify to your apparent engineering needs. On the other hand I believe you will never be satisfied, end result is we will continue to have to see you post on and on about it.



    I knew I'd provoke a loyalist lol, inevitable. You montioring your VRAM and VRM temps are you ? or you just saying your GPU core temp is
    fine ? cause that's all you're gonna see, so your observations there are moot. I'm doing what is necessary, and this will all be over soon.
    And yes i'll be happy then, knowing i got a card safe guarded as best as possible against its short-comings. Wonder how long yours will last.
    I have serious buyers remorse now, because its taken so long to address. 1 month later and I'm still not gaming, who wouldn't piss and moan.
     
    Its funny how people call you out about complaining about stuff, then you find them shortly after losing their mind in another thread. 
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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 16:19:54 (permalink)
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    Also, we have a genuine interest in keeping our hardware running for years to come and having flaws like this certainly isn't helping. Planned obsolescence anyone?




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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 16:25:51 (permalink)
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    I knew I'd provoke a loyalist lol, inevitable. You montioring your VRAM and VRM temps are you ? or you just saying your GPU core temp is
    fine ? cause that's all you're gonna see, so your observations there are moot. I'm doing what is necessary, and this will all be over soon.
    And yes i'll be happy then, knowing i got a card safe guarded as best as possible against its short-comings. Wonder how long yours will last.
    I have serious buyers remorse now, because its taken so long to address. 1 month later and I'm still not gaming, who wouldn't piss and moan.




    Loyalist whatever, assuming you are saying that I'm guessing from my join date huh. That would be when EVGA was pretty much the only manufacturer that had AMD sockets and nVidia SLI capabilities. There has NEVER been monitoring of VRM and memory temps to my knowledge from any manufacturer of GPUs. If it was so so so critical that it needed to be monitored like the GPU and CPU do you not think it would have been implemented by nVidia or AMD from the get go along with the software to do said monitoring? So with that said, if the manufacturer doesn't feel the need to place sensors then there is No need to monitor it IMO. Question is, did YOU know it even existed/ what it was or where it was located until the whole internet went haywire? I am willing bet you had absolutely no clue as to what it was or what the specific items even did. (Until the sky started falling and folks got scared and you googled it) Yes, it will be all over soon and I hope you find your safe temperature you are looking for, installing sensors to monitor it I hope. If you do not install the sensors how exactly are you going to know your in your safe zone? Pretty much you don't and won't period.    How long will it last you ask? I am guessing until it dies or I get rid of it for another series of GPU in the future. I have 3 years to run the wheels off of this before it goes out of warranty. I am actually LOLing that you are afraid to game with it.......................SMH .................Better unplug from the grid.........it's scary out there...........
     
    Edit to your Edit: Not going to bother, I just need to remove my Loyalist self from the conversation so you can have your safe place.
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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 16:41:39 (permalink)
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    I knew I'd provoke a loyalist lol, inevitable. You montioring your VRAM and VRM temps are you ? or you just saying your GPU core temp is
    fine ? cause that's all you're gonna see, so your observations there are moot. I'm doing what is necessary, and this will all be over soon.
    And yes i'll be happy then, knowing i got a card safe guarded as best as possible against its short-comings. Wonder how long yours will last.
    I have serious buyers remorse now, because its taken so long to address. 1 month later and I'm still not gaming, who wouldn't piss and moan.




    Loyalist whatever, assuming you are saying that I'm guessing from my join date huh. That would be when EVGA was pretty much the only manufacturer that had AMD sockets and nVidia SLI capabilities. There has NEVER been monitoring of VRM and memory temps to my knowledge from any manufacturer of GPUs. If it was so so so critical that it needed to be monitored like the GPU and CPU do you not think it would have been implemented by nVidia or AMD from the get go along with the software to do said monitoring? So with that said, if the manufacturer doesn't feel the need to place sensors then there is No need to monitor it IMO. Question is, did YOU know it even existed/ what it was or where it was located until the whole internet went haywire? I am willing bet you had absolutely no clue as to what it was or what the specific items even did. (Until the sky started falling and folks got scared and you googled it) Yes, it will be all over soon and I hope you find your safe temperature you are looking for, installing sensors to monitor it I hope. If you do not install the sensors how exactly are you going to know your in your safe zone? Pretty much you don't and won't period.    How long will it last you ask? I am guessing until it dies or I get rid of it for another series of GPU in the future. I have 3 years to run the wheels off of this before it goes out of warranty. I am actually LOLing that you are afraid to game with it.......................SMH .................Better unplug from the grid.........it's scary out there...........
     
    Edit to your Edit: Not going to bother, I just need to remove my Loyalist self from the conversation so you can have your safe place.




    I've been a qualified electronics and PC tech for over 20 years. You might know how to debate in this forum, but i certainly know my way
    around technology. The need for monitoring these areas have always been there. I can think of countless models over the last 20 years
    from different manufacturers that had over-heating VRAM and VRMs. This is a text book case that illustrates how useful they could be.

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 18:55:46 (permalink)
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    I've been a qualified electronics and PC tech for over 20 years. You might know how to debate in this forum, but i certainly know my way
    around technology. The need for monitoring these areas have always been there. I can think of countless models over the last 20 years
    from different manufacturers that had over-heating VRAM and VRMs. This is a text book case that illustrates how useful they could be.



    Nice, with that said then......... 20 yrs as you say and still not implemented, thus the manufacturers still do not feel a need for monitoring. Correct? Useful, to a point for those that understand (Techs as yourself, Engineers, manufacturers of said items) what they are seeing and the limits that said items can tolerate. Correct? So unless the makers of all these items place sensors on key points (pick an item on the board) and provide some sort of monitoring software that is truly understandable by non-qualified users and unless they had experience such as yourself it would be useless. Riddle me this, do you honestly believe that very many folks who use HWmonitor actually know what all the temperature/ voltage readings are that are displayed for the MOBO actually represent and can point out where they are and what the voltages should be  on said MOBO? Whether it is an actual or inferred temperature, high or low voltage, the monitoring software is reading correctly. I highly doubt it to be honest, so when the temperature or voltage is shown is it good or bad? Don't know unless you know make, model and manufacturer number/ serial number of monitored item due to technology changing in the blink of an eye. CPU, GPU FOUND IT!! VRAM....ummm who made it? The resistor with the 2 red stripes and one black stripe ummmmm what's its resistance supposed to be?
         With all this rambling I have just done, I ask you one last thing and I will not post again in your thread. With your experience and qualms about the temperatures, why have you not come up with your own solution while waiting on EVGA? You have the knowledge and experience to perform such a mod until a solution was found. (Your reaction will be.... I shouldn't have to) EVGA has stated that there is no need on the 1060FTW+ for a bios or additional thermal pads (unless they change their mind at a later date, doubtful at this point I would think), you believe otherwise. Seeing that your opinion differs from EVGA and other 1060FTW+ owners have concerns maybe come up with solution and post a guide/ how to of sorts to HELP others with the same concerns. Be a part of a solution, not the problem..........................Good Luck!! 
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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/17 19:39:31 (permalink)
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    I've been a qualified electronics and PC tech for over 20 years. You might know how to debate in this forum, but i certainly know my way
    around technology. The need for monitoring these areas have always been there. I can think of countless models over the last 20 years
    from different manufacturers that had over-heating VRAM and VRMs. This is a text book case that illustrates how useful they could be.



    Nice, with that said then......... 20 yrs as you say and still not implemented, thus the manufacturers still do not feel a need for monitoring. Correct? Useful, to a point for those that understand (Techs as yourself, Engineers, manufacturers of said items) what they are seeing and the limits that said items can tolerate. Correct? So unless the makers of all these items place sensors on key points (pick an item on the board) and provide some sort of monitoring software that is truly understandable by non-qualified users and unless they had experience such as yourself it would be useless. Riddle me this, do you honestly believe that very many folks who use HWmonitor actually know what all the temperature/ voltage readings are that are displayed for the MOBO actually represent and can point out where they are and what the voltages should be  on said MOBO? Whether it is an actual or inferred temperature, high or low voltage, the monitoring software is reading correctly. I highly doubt it to be honest, so when the temperature or voltage is shown is it good or bad? Don't know unless you know make, model and manufacturer number/ serial number of monitored item due to technology changing in the blink of an eye. CPU, GPU FOUND IT!! VRAM....ummm who made it? The resistor with the 2 red stripes and one black stripe ummmmm what's its resistance supposed to be?
         With all this rambling I have just done, I ask you one last thing and I will not post again in your thread. With your experience and qualms about the temperatures, why have you not come up with your own solution while waiting on EVGA? You have the knowledge and experience to perform such a mod until a solution was found. (Your reaction will be.... I shouldn't have to) EVGA has stated that there is no need on the 1060FTW+ for a bios or additional thermal pads (unless they change their mind at a later date, doubtful at this point I would think), you believe otherwise. Seeing that your opinion differs from EVGA and other 1060FTW+ owners have concerns maybe come up with solution and post a guide/ how to of sorts to HELP others with the same concerns. Be a part of a solution, not the problem..........................Good Luck!! 


    There's a selection bias on enthusiast forums. Meaning, because a higher percentage of those you associate with act or believe a certain way, you believe that represents the majority. The reality is, we represent a small minority of the users. I'm not sure what a  'qualified electronics and PC Tech' is. Geek Squad?   I'm always curious why people employ an 'appeal to authority' argument when they are just another user. That being said, the data sheet for Micron GDDR5 does show
    • On-die temperature sensor with readout
    • Automatic temperature sensor controlled self refresh rate
    Samsung is a bit more nebulous though they also implement similar memory error correction methods. In any event, All GDDR5 uses temperature compensation. However, I'd have to do more research on if were possible for a board manufacturer to access this and also make it useful to the user.
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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/18 10:24:54 (permalink)
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    NucleusX
    I've been a qualified electronics and PC tech for over 20 years. You might know how to debate in this forum, but i certainly know my way
    around technology. The need for monitoring these areas have always been there. I can think of countless models over the last 20 years
    from different manufacturers that had over-heating VRAM and VRMs. This is a text book case that illustrates how useful they could be.



    Nice, with that said then......... 20 yrs as you say and still not implemented, thus the manufacturers still do not feel a need for monitoring. Correct? Useful, to a point for those that understand (Techs as yourself, Engineers, manufacturers of said items) what they are seeing and the limits that said items can tolerate. Correct? So unless the makers of all these items place sensors on key points (pick an item on the board) and provide some sort of monitoring software that is truly understandable by non-qualified users and unless they had experience such as yourself it would be useless. Riddle me this, do you honestly believe that very many folks who use HWmonitor actually know what all the temperature/ voltage readings are that are displayed for the MOBO actually represent and can point out where they are and what the voltages should be  on said MOBO? Whether it is an actual or inferred temperature, high or low voltage, the monitoring software is reading correctly. I highly doubt it to be honest, so when the temperature or voltage is shown is it good or bad? Don't know unless you know make, model and manufacturer number/ serial number of monitored item due to technology changing in the blink of an eye. CPU, GPU FOUND IT!! VRAM....ummm who made it? The resistor with the 2 red stripes and one black stripe ummmmm what's its resistance supposed to be?
         With all this rambling I have just done, I ask you one last thing and I will not post again in your thread. With your experience and qualms about the temperatures, why have you not come up with your own solution while waiting on EVGA? You have the knowledge and experience to perform such a mod until a solution was found. (Your reaction will be.... I shouldn't have to) EVGA has stated that there is no need on the 1060FTW+ for a bios or additional thermal pads (unless they change their mind at a later date, doubtful at this point I would think), you believe otherwise. Seeing that your opinion differs from EVGA and other 1060FTW+ owners have concerns maybe come up with solution and post a guide/ how to of sorts to HELP others with the same concerns. Be a part of a solution, not the problem..........................Good Luck!! 




    Wow, thats a lotta dribble. lol thanks for playing ! Now for someone that appears to have real intelligence.
     
    HeavyHemi
    The reality is, we represent a small minority of the users. I'm not sure what a 'qualified electronics and PC Tech' is. Geek Squad?



    It means i have the proper certifications and qualifications related to said fields. Started in electronics, finished specializing in computers.
    I have been active in the field and gained my experience. I'm not having a pi$$ing contest with anyone, i just want him to know that
    I'm not as in-experienced as he thinks i am, nothing more.
     
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    That being said, the data sheet for Micron GDDR5 does show
    • On-die temperature sensor with readout
    • Automatic temperature sensor controlled self refresh rate
    Samsung is a bit more nebulous though they also implement similar memory error correction methods. In any event, All GDDR5 uses temperature compensation. However, I'd have to do more research on if were possible for a board manufacturer to access this and also make it useful to the user.
     

     
    Without turning things into a thesis, the majority of temperature sensors on-board most chips are just Diodes. Cheap and plentiful.
    Now its not as simple as that, as there needs to be extra accommodations made for it within the chip for it to be fully functional, and
    accessible for external telemetry. Its hard for me to say why manufacturers don't bother to integrate them, as reading material isn't
    plentiful on the specific subject, it could be as simple as saving a few cents. Anyone that has spent time with hardware for so long
    and has repeatedly crossed paths with failures directly related to VRAM and VRM modules over an extended period of time, would
    easily come to the conclusion that extra monitoring in these areas would prove beneficial to at-least the enthusiast and power user
    class. For the extra money that is paid for premium hardware in that class, its conceivable. Employing these in all hardware across
    low to mid range hardware that takes up the vast majority of market share, probably asking too much, and far less essential.
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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/18 11:00:59 (permalink)
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    Been wondering the same myself for if it qualifies or not. The 1060 FTW was recently pulled from sale at NCIX, so I guess they've stopped manufacturing them.
     
    I'm on the step up, the 1060 FTW+ DT, and I did my own thermal pad upgrade, but the promised VBIOS upgrade never came so you're SOL if you want to keep your temperatures safe in BIOS or Linux.




    Can i ask, what specifically made you upgrade the thermal pads if EVGA recommends that its not needed. Did you make high temp observations ?

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/18 16:18:46 (permalink)
     OP with 20 years experience, believes the average user needs more items to monitor that they do not understand. Worried about "gaming" with said GPU due to issue that EVGA deemed same said GPU does not have. Resorts to challenging a persons intelligence...........yet will not use "experience" to solve perceived issue ..........................PRICELESS!!!!!

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/18 16:58:27 (permalink)
    Oh dear lord will you go away. You're a pest that brought virtually nothing useful to this thread and involved yourself just to be my adversary just cause you didn't like what i had to say. Be gone already.

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/18 18:59:52 (permalink)
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    Can i ask, what specifically made you upgrade the thermal pads if EVGA recommends that its not needed. Did you make high temp observations ?


    I did it when EVGA still RECOMMENDED it and had my own tools and thermal pads handy. Seeing the problem with the design I applied thermal pads where I knew it would conduct correctly, and I saw a drop of 10C with an aggressive fan curve. My downclocks for typical gaming are only 12mhz with the K-boost function on.
     
    Of course, once you close Precision X OC, the fans ramp down to 0%. Custom fan curves ONLY apply when Precision X OC is left on in the background, and there is no Precision X OC on Linux.

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/18 19:39:15 (permalink)
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    Can i ask, what specifically made you upgrade the thermal pads if EVGA recommends that its not needed. Did you make high temp observations ?


    I did it when EVGA still RECOMMENDED it and had my own tools and thermal pads handy. Seeing the problem with the design I applied thermal pads where I knew it would conduct correctly, and I saw a drop of 10C with an aggressive fan curve. My downclocks for typical gaming are only 12mhz with the K-boost function on.
     
    Of course, once you close Precision X OC, the fans ramp down to 0%. Custom fan curves ONLY apply when Precision X OC is left on in the background, and there is no Precision X OC on Linux.




    It is to my understanding that K-Boost is not generally supposed to be used while gaming, correct me if I'm wrong ?

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/19 01:13:55 (permalink)
    NucleusXIt is to my understanding that K-Boost is not generally supposed to be used while gaming, correct me if I'm wrong ?


     
    K-boost stabilizes your clock speed to lock in at boost clocks. Those that are tired of the card constantly downclocking and sometimes causing system instability switching clocks would very much appreciate this feature. I certainly do, but I wish the automatic fan settings in the VBIOS reflected that and unfortunately they don't.
     
    I'm now going to have to run my fans at 100% full duty the whole time my system is on from an external power source as opposed to the fan connector on the 1060's PCB. They've literally left me no choice.

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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/21 14:14:22 (permalink)
    any news on 1060 and thermal pad?
    The German site (toms hardware) which identified the issue with 1080 also suggest pad for the 1060.
    The results on the page are with pads on two of the four

     
    I would like to receive one from EVGA as I don't have any spare pads
     
    edit. fix text as links got removed.
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    Re: 1060 FTW Thermal Pad Qualification. 2016/11/21 15:44:28 (permalink)
    I've received the official email that was advised by Jacob, and its pretty much what he said here. The 1060 FTW cards don't qualify for thermal pads because they believe they aren't required.

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